Virgin Mary's Miracle birth to Isa (RA) - Scientifically Impossible?

**beespreeteam** · 05-27-2007

http://beespree.com/story.php?title=Virgin...ally_impossible

It's taken six years to find out but the zookeepers at Henry Doorly Zoo in Nebraska finally know how the female hammerhead shark that was in their care managed to get pregnant on her own. Scientists revealed last week that DNA profiling showed the shark's baby contained no paternal DNA.

There's comments in the description in the link before you nagivate to the actual site, so check it out

**جوري** · 09-02-2010

Originally Posted by Trumble

Try not to forget "feign intellectualness", hmm ?... :rolleyes:

well that is a given, there is no point to being redundant!

all the best

**atheistbynature** · 09-02-2010

Originally Posted by Bedouin

i. I wasn't referring to virgin birth. Rather atheists in general.
ii. Virgin birth is impossible in the absence of a miracle. Hence why it is regarded as such. No hard to understand, really.

Failure to understand simple concept. Read up the definition of 'miracle', please.

I disagree. It's more of a 'hypothesis' that explains the behaviour of atheists.

Just that this hypothesis has not been proven conclusively as of yet. Hopefully in future my theory that atheists are insecure, cynical and troll-like will be established firmly.

I mean, surely we don't need to be certain about something before we promote and argue against everything else so vehemently..

I don't see how saying it was a miracle helps you still believe it 100% without evidence for the event happening. And I don't argue vehemently that abiogenasis happened.

**Zafran** · 09-02-2010

Originally Posted by atheistbynature

It's not double standards at all. 'Virgin birth' amongst humans is observed to be impossible and there is no proof it did ever happen. Abiogenesis is an hypothesis to explain the origin of life, it has not yet been proven. But saying that it is a possible explanation and waiting for more evidence is much more valid than believing something 100% when there's not only no evidence but it's proven impossible by all current observations.

Ah yes the good old inductive circular reasoning. By the way whats the "proof" that its never happend in the past? I'm sure we cant prove that by empirical evidence?

**جوري** · 09-02-2010

Originally Posted by atheistbynature

I don't see how saying it was a miracle helps you still believe it 100% without evidence for the event happening. And I don't argue vehemently that abiogenasis happened.

doesn't being an 'atheist by nature' argue against creation for whatever other nonsensical non-provable methodology that set all else in motion?
Belief has nothing to do with presence of miracles or not, it is simply a part of faith, if your religion makes sense in a large part, then there is no point in doubt the whole, especially when you can't come up with better that is actually based in sound science, and experimentally demonstrable!

all the best

**Alpha Dude** · 09-02-2010

Here is my hypothesis as it stands:

Atheist traits:
i. feign intellectualness
ii troll-like
iii. insecure
iv. cynical

These are based on empirical and observable deductions. For a clear example, please observe the posts of Subject a (Philosopher) in this thread.

Now, I know that, in order for this theory of mine to be accepted, it must be independently verified by peers. I wouldn't ask anyone to have blind faith in my work. Perish the thought.

The Vales Lily, would you kindly peer review my hypothesis so that we can reach a definitive consensus?

**جوري** · 09-02-2010

Originally Posted by Bedouin

The Vales Lily, would you kindly peer review my hypothesis so that we can reach a definitive consensus?

I am currently working on two papers insha'Allah one for orthopedic scoliosis cases, and the other still to undergo IRB approval concerning a terrible side effect that happens during prolonged back surgery (don't want to disclose details because people steal your ideas and reclaim them)we should convene in a couple of weeks and workout the details of your paper but for now we should be mum about the details lest it be stolen, it is a doggy dog world but I really think we can go somewhere with it..

**atheistbynature** · 09-02-2010

Originally Posted by Bedouin

Here is my hypothesis as it stands:

Atheist traits:
i. feign intellectualness
ii troll-like
iii. insecure
iv. cynical

These are based on empirical and observable deductions. For a clear example, please observe the posts of Subject a (Philosopher) in this thread.

Now, I know that, in order for this theory of mine to be accepted, it must be independently verified by peers. I wouldn't ask anyone to have blind faith in my work. Perish the thought.

The Vales Lily, would you kindly peer review my hypothesis so that we can reach a definitive consensus?

lol. But seriously just a generalization.

**Al-Yasa** · 09-02-2010

wow didnt know that about sharks

learn something new everyday

**Predator** · 09-03-2010

The birth of Prophet Yahya (AS) was also miracle birth , He was born to a woman who was barren

He said: "O my Lord! How shall I have son, seeing I am very old, and my wife is barren?" "Thus," was the answer, "Doth Allah accomplish what He willeth." [Qur'an 3:38-40]

And bigger creation is the creation of Adam (AS) without father and mother