***"Islamic Teacher" Betrays Muslims!!***

format_quote Originally Posted by Noor

How disheartening to watch such a pathetic fool rant, turly he is an enemy from within.

I truly don't understand. When I witch the video, I see a Muslim speaking out against radicalism. What do you see that I don't? Please explain in words a non-Muslim could understand.

format_quote Originally Posted by Noor

Maybe all those potions you keep brewing is making you ability to think much more difficult! Witchcraft was never something I was too keen on. I bet you're glad the salem witch trials are over with. Also delighted you live in Seattle. But all that rain pouring down must have made for a boring childhood!

Being AlMagrib student myself, it is evident that this character is not benefiting from any proper knowledge he gets, if any, at all.

It's a sad world out there! Alhamdulilah, I'm Muslim!

Do you treat all honest questions with such spite.
Is there anyone out there who is willing to give an honest answer to an honest question?

I think the proof is right infront of you Wilberhum. For one, he is labeling the second holiest city in the world for Muslims as a safe-haven for terrorists, this is simply a load of crap! And of all places the the university! You like using proof, did he show any proof, or do you have any of this being true, of going so far as to connect the city of the Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) to binLaden, this is an outright lie for starters. Secondly, he doesn't even KNOW ANY OF THE YOUTHS implicated in the events which transpired in Toronto. Basically he should have been smarter before going on television and bringing our faith into the mix of things and making it a target for dissection. If it is PROVEN that someone has done wrong as you like to use PROOF, then please go ahead and prove it. Could you also prove his claims of the existence of the need for offensive jihad essays in the backs of Qur'ans? His attacks against al-Maghrib are just completely unrelated to the matters which were supposed to be discussed. Neither are Madinah, the Qur'an - and there isnt a perversion of religion, there's no such thing, it's a perversion of people, like the one you see in the CBC video.

Is Christianity ever blamed for the rise of Nazi Germany's wrath upon humanity? Or how about Bush's Iraq war?? Does the world ever point the finger at Christianity as being the reason for the mass exodus of the Muslim populations of Bosnians, ethnic Albanians, Christian Bosnians and others from the wrath of Slobadan Milosevic? Was Christianity blamed for the actions of Slobadan Milosevic? So since Christianity was not blamed for the actions of such monsters, why do you then feel the need to believe that Islam is to blame of being perverted and used? If that is what you believe, then others have every right to scream at the top of their lungs the Christian terror and radicalism and extremism which has wreaked havoc upon this world. In that particular scenario it would only be fair. But if you are a person of reason with some level of intellect you would know as I know that this is not the case. And someone should tell Amiruddin that "this is where the problem lies."

Maverick
Thank you.
But, I still like what the man said. I think he recognizes a problem and is trying to stop it.
Also I don't see how this relates to Nazi Germany. But that's OK.

After his interview this guy was attacked and beaten up by couple teenagers (muslims).

Now that clarifies who "The Bad Guys" are.

format_quote Originally Posted by Islamicboy

Sure those teenagers could be seen as bad guys. But then agian this happens when excited teenagers run around looking for trouble. This happens all the time in America, Canada and many western countries. Should we then generalize it to the entire christian, Jewish, or even the entire country as bad guys?

You should judge others by what they do. One should never generalize. Each person is there own, only responsible for what they can do. But as I said:

Now that clarifies who "The Bad Guys" are.

Did you think I was talking about anybody but the violent criminals?

format_quote Originally Posted by Islamicboy

Stop playing with words. You know what you mean't I know what you mean't. Now lets just leave it at that.

No lets not leave it at that.
You accuse me of bigoted bias because I call people who beat up a man because they don't like what he said, violent criminals.
That is nothing but hate and intolerance and I condemn it.

If you want to read more into it than that, you need to check out your own bias.

Wilberhum. This Sayyid Ahmed Amiruddin doesn't care about Muslims or Islam. Do you really think you can sit there and spoon feed us that he is doing the right thing? Based on what? A few accusations? Where's the basis. Not one shred yet from you. What is it that he said right? You have received all the details just on this thread to let you begin your understanding, pertaining to why he lied big time.

And please stick to the topic being discussed. It remains that he came on television and made blatant accusations against Muslims, our faith of Islam, and Muslim organizations. Think a little bit harder Wilberhum.

Do you really think you can sit there and spoon feed us that he is doing the right thing?

Spoon feed us? Get a life.
I see the man as "Anit-Terrorism". I don't see that as a bad thing.
How in the H do you come off with someone having an openion different that yours as "Spoon Feeding"?

format_quote Originally Posted by Islamicboy

I never accused you of being a bigoted bias can you please quote me where i call you that? I call people who beat up anyone without a justification a violent criminals too.


From reading this i get that you are refering to any muslim who disagrees with what he says as bad guy. Even though no one was praising there actions and most muslims even condemed it.

1) Implied by the way you answered.
2) See, I think YOUR bias led you to think I was judging Muslims. Definatly not the case. I judge people by what they do, not by there religion. Every religion has it's share of good and bad people.

So all is well not, I hope.
Now arn't you glad I didn't "Just drop it"?
when misunderstanding becomes understanding, it is a good thing.

Peace,
Wilber

Spoon feed us? Get a life.

Listen Wilberhum, I never insulted you, I told you that you can't expect people to follow what Amiruddin says just because you believe it without backing up his claims. That is called spoon feeding. There's no need to take things personally. You sound like a very angry person with all your raging. It's not your opinion that bothers me. I think you are missing the point, CLEARLY. Everyone who has posted here is anti-terrorism. But why should Muslims accept anti-Qur'an, anti-Muslim, anti-Islam rhetoric from a bafoon who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And like I said before, you still haven't provided one statement to back up what Amiruddin has said.

There are numerous other people out there who are Muslim leaders of the community and regular people who could have been interviewed and come on television and done a better job than him. My 8-year old nephew would have done a better job than him in declaring Muslims condemnation of terrorism but at the same time would not make bashful and ignorant statements. Still waiting for your "PROOF."