Things in Islam I am curious about...

I've never heard scholars say spiritual only. . . that's weird. . .almost saying the pleasures of paradise have their limitations. . .unless you'll only desire spiritual things. . .I don't know. Allah knows best :)
 
Muslim Woman said:
Salaam/peace

a huge controversy is going on now in my country . A big statue represenating folk singer was situated in front of the national airport. It was to show the local tradition to the foreigners. But students of Madrasha pulled it down.

A writer wrote against it . He claimed that Prophet Muhammed (p) allowed a beautiful image of Mother Mary (p) that was drawn inside the pillar of holy Kaaba . He did that out of his love for art . So , if any statue / image is not created for worship purpose , it should be allowed to built .

I want to know if really there was any image of Mother Mary (p) inside the Kaaba after the Macca victory ?
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As I know the Prophet disallowed it to to be there anymore.
 
grace seeker,
Listening or playing music is to me a matter of conscience. Many a faqih have considered it illicit on grounds it may hinder good worship:many others have turned a blind eye to the matter.We're in a country,however pious they are, love music and practise it.The sufi way of worship is to a large extent based on chants..
Islam is more based on what we must do, I think.
 
I've seen the following posted repeatedly in many different threads. Though this is indeed a direct quote taken from one individual's post, the thoughts represented here are those that I see presented quite often:
Islam can be proven if you put it to the test.
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Now my question: How is it that Muslims put Islam to a test?
 
I don't think it is Islam the religion that statement is referring. It's more the Imaan (faith in Islaam). Imaan is put to test via the hardship one faces every morning one wakes up; the devotion to one's Creator; the willingness to sacrifice of the sake of the One that sustains us etc.
 
Grace Seeker said:
I've seen the following posted repeatedly in many different threads. Though this is indeed a direct quote taken from one individual's post, the thoughts represented here are those that I see presented quite often:

Now my question: How is it that Muslims put Islam to a test?
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Let's see.

Does Islam have an answer to the problem of alcohol related problems in the UK?
Yes (via prohibition of alcohol)

Does Islam have an answer to the problem of disrespecting women?
Yes (via forbidding unlawful gazes, adultery, prostitution etc)

Does Islam have an answer to minimise criminal activity?
Yes (via punishments for criminals)

And so on and so forth.
 
Interesting the different ways that the question was understood and interpreted. I thank you each for your different perspectives.


Do Muslim think that Islam can be "proven"?


I know that there are Christians who think that Christianity can be proven, and I suspect that there are persons with every religion who similarly about their own faith. So my question is not if any individual here feels this way about their faith, but whether Islam teaches that it can be proven? Or while holding Islam to in fact be true, does it accept that believing it to be so is ultimately a matter of faith?
 
I just want to say something .You can regard it as a '' in addition to''
In my point of view,---there is a verse in the Quran:

^And [tell them that] I have not created the invisible beings and men to any end other than that they may [know and] worship Me. ^ Zariyah 56

Our goal is to worship Allah in the world.Our reason to be created is to worship

Thus we must do the things that can be counted as pray (worship Him)And we have to remind Allah all the time.

And ı want to spot on this verse as well

41. O YOU who have attained to faith! Remember God with unceasing remembrance,
----AHzab ---

you know the world unceasing.....whilst Our God want us to remember Him with unceasing remembrance,how can we cope with the things that make us forget Allah ?*ı mean not to remember him even a second*

Our time is so valuable that we shouldnt spend with listening music.
Notice ı m saying THİNGS that makes us forget Allah even a second.For instance ,ı m on this forum by this way ı m always thinking Allah cus its name islamicboard.what else can ı think?:)


(ı am not argueing if it is haram or not.But it makes me forget Allah (myself),so ı prefer not to listen...:)I can spend the times that would pass with listening the music,with reading Quran or listening 2 it....
 
Grace Seeker said:
Interesting the different ways that the question was understood and interpreted. I thank you each for your different perspectives.


Do Muslim think that Islam can be "proven"?


I know that there are Christians who think that Christianity can be proven, and I suspect that there are persons with every religion who similarly about their own faith. So my question is not if any individual here feels this way about their faith, but whether Islam teaches that it can be proven? Or while holding Islam to in fact be true, does it accept that believing it to be so is ultimately a matter of faith?
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QURAN is enough to prove it....
 
Grace Seeker said:
Unless I missed it (and I easily might have) I know of nothing in the Quran that specifically speaks against music. The prohibitiions come from the hadiths, and these hadiths are not by specific declaration but by way of interpretation, while other hadiths are sometimes understood by others to declare music halaal on certain occassions: on the eid, at weddings, other celebrations.

In Bukhari, a hadith relates a connection between musical instruments and the family of David (saw). This is evidence that, indeed, the Psalms were musical in nature:
Bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 568:
"Narrated Abu Musa that the Prophet said to him' "O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David.'"


The hadith which relates of how the adhan came to be, it also tells of how the Prophet's companions suggested the use of musical instruments such as the horn or bell like the People of the Book. Now although the Prophet ultimately approved the use of the human voice, there is no mention that the Prophet chastised his companions for suggesting musical instruments for the adhan. And if the Prophet was so very much against musical instruments, then why would his companions dare to suggest the use of such sinful things in the call to prayer?
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halaal on certain occassions: on the eid, at weddings, after Jihad Fi Sabilillah over.
This is right. No difficulty. Tahrim Alatith Tharab by syaikh Nashir Al Albaani

Bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 568:
"Narrated Abu Musa that the Prophet said to him' "O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David.'"

The Hadits "... musical wind-instruments of the family of David", this is the conotation of Daud's voice, because his voice was so good, Allahu kalam "


10 Wa laqad a_taina_ da_wu_da min na_ fadla_ ya_ jiba_lu aw wibi ma'ahu_ wat tair wa alan na_ lahul hadid


Saba'(34):10 And assuredly We gave David grace from Us, (saying): O ye hills and birds, echo his psalms of praise! And We made the iron supple unto him,

See it does not say that Daud 'alaihi Salaam sing, because no Arab word there which showed to singing, and save about with musical instruments.

Acapella is alright, because voice is made by Allahu Tabaraka Ta'ala directly, not as musical instruments.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.
 
Grace Seeker said:
I understood that it was Allah who sent the Qur'an to Muhammad. Is that not what Al-Hijr (15L9) says?


Now, I don't speak Arabic, but three different generally reliable English translations all have a plural noun as the subject of this passage:



Who is the "WE" in this passage?
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"Inna," does not only mean "we," but it's more completely translated as "Verily we" or "Behold we," this is the translation done by Ulama.

It's like in Indonesia, I said myself "Kami," not "saya," while "saya" is singular for I, while "kami" means "us or we," but I say it for declaring myself, eventhough I am only 1 person, because that's kind of honouring myself, indeed as what the Muslim there said in his post after this Q from thee.


May peace, development and save from guile be upon who follow the guidance.
 
AlMasih Dajjal is as 1 of the Muslim had wrote there. Here are what Rasulullah 'alaihi Shalawatu wa Salam had said about him:

Sunan of Abu-DawoodHadith Narrated by Ubadah ibn as-Samit

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: I have told you so much about the Dajjal (Antichrist) that I am afraid you may not understand. The Antichrist is short, hen-toed, woolly-haired, one-eyed, an eye-sightless, and neither protruding nor deep-seated. If you are confused about him, know that your Lord is not one-eyed.
(HR.Abu Daud (4320), Qishash Dajjal, Al Misykah (5485)

Sunan of Abu-DawoodHadith Narrated by Abu Hurayrah


The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace be upon him). He will descend (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
(HR.Abu Daud (4324), Qishshah Ad Dajjal, Ash Shahihah (2182)

Sunan of Abu-DawoodHadith Narrated by Fatimah, daughter (binti) of Qays

The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) once delayed the congregational night prayer. He came out and said: The talk of Tamim ad-Dari detained me. He transmitted it to me from a man who was on of of the islands of the sea. All of a sudden he found a woman who was trailing her hair. He asked: Who are you? She said: I am the Jassasah. Go to that castle. So I came to it and found a man who was trailing his hair, chained in iron collars, and leaping between Heaven and Earth. I asked: Who are you? He replied: I am the Dajjal (Antichrist). Has the Prophet of the unlettered people come forth now? I replied: Yes. He said: Have they obeyed him or disobeyed him? I said: No, they have obeyed him. He said: That is better for them.
(HR.Abu Daud (4325), Qishash Ad Dajjal, Muslim)


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.
 
Greetings,
Grace Seeker said:
Interesting the different ways that the question was understood and interpreted. I thank you each for your different perspectives.


Do Muslim think that Islam can be "proven"?


I know that there are Christians who think that Christianity can be proven, and I suspect that there are persons with every religion who similarly about their own faith. So my question is not if any individual here feels this way about their faith, but whether Islam teaches that it can be proven? Or while holding Islam to in fact be true, does it accept that believing it to be so is ultimately a matter of faith?
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I'm not sure what the official line is, but from reading this forum it definitely seems that many Muslims do indeed think that Islam can be proven. Words like "proof" are notoriously slippery, though, so any statement that talks about "proving" anything will depend on what definition of "proof" is being used.

In a similar way, faith and knowledge are distinct concepts in a Christian way of thinking, but the distinction seems less clear in Islam.

Peace
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,


I'm not sure what the official line is, but from reading this forum it definitely seems that many Muslims do indeed think that Islam can be proven. Words like "proof" are notoriously slippery, though, so any statement that talks about "proving" anything will depend on what definition of "proof" is being used.

In a similar way, faith and knowledge are distinct concepts in a Christian way of thinking, but the distinction seems less clear in Islam.

Peace
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Faith is a type of knowledge while knowledge augments faith.
 
I hope that this question wasnt asked already, but my question is do all muslim girls must have the genital mutilation, or it is just african phenomenon?
 
The answer is no they don't. My Mum watched a documentary on that in Africa. . . she couldn't sleep for weeks :(
 
RoseGold said:
The answer is no they don't. My Mum watched a documentary on that in Africa. . . she couldn't sleep for weeks :(
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I have friend from South East Asia, a man, and he said that all muslim girls must have this, as they must be perfectly clean during the prayer.
 
Excuse the expression; but that's bull. Being pure for prayer is accomplished simply by performing ablution. Ask him for the evidence that suports such a statement as his.
 
RoseGold said:
Excuse the expression; but that's bull. Being pure for prayer is accomplished simply by performing ablution. Ask him for the evidence that suports such a statement as his.
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Actually I was also suprised, thats why I kept on asking and asking. But he was sure what he was saying, he said that girls in South East Asia also have this.
 

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