Alcohol, Prostitution Rife in New Iraq

if we're talking about guessing, saddam was sunni, he prohibited shia rituals of karbala etc, so if he was such a stout sunni as to ban these, why not alcohol and prostitution...
well just guessing...
I don't think he banned shia stuff because of his staunch sunniness.
 
if we're talking about guessing, saddam was sunni, he prohibited shia rituals of karbala etc, so if he was such a stout sunni as to ban these, why not alcohol and prostitution...
well just guessing...

Whether it was prohibited or not is not the case I believe. Since USA invaded Iraq, things have gotten worse.
 
"The gay community in Iraq is increasing despite the fear from extremists," Salahdinne Abdullah al-Rabia’a, a social worker in the capital Baghdad, told IslamOnline.net.

Contrary to reports that homosexuals are going underground, gays are reportedly gaining choices and places in the war-torn country.

Well there is some good news coming out of Iraq after all. I wonder why this isn't more widely reported? If its true its a nice increase in human rights as well as a demonstration that the society may be progressing.
 
Well there is some good news coming out of Iraq after all. I wonder why this isn't more widely reported? If its true its a nice increase in human rights as well as a demonstration that the society may be progressing.

excuse me, you'll fine me an extremist or you can call it whatever name you want, homos are sick, if it was something natural, the reproductive system should have been different
 
I don't think he banned shia stuff because of his staunch sunniness.

If he allowed the Ashura processions... the Shiites might demonstrate against him and supporting his enemy Khomeinei.. if he's a staunch Sunni, his wife would be wearing hijab. Kurds who are Sunnis were discriminated too... so it has nothing to do with his Sunnism...
 
excuse me, you'll fine me an extremist or you can call it whatever name you want, homos are sick, if it was something natural, the reproductive system should have been different

Well, some folks feel the same way about muslims. Its not extremist. Its just bigotry.
 
How stupid? This is what you call good news? prostitution and homosexuality.

If its true its a nice increase in human rights as well as a demonstration that the society may be progressing

This is how you interpret prostitution and alcohol to be, "increase in human rights".
 
This is how you interpret prostitution and alcohol to be, "increase in human rights".

Well really, the Western government have not tackled the problem of prostitution. These women need help and the government do not offer enough support to these women. Quite sad...

It does not increase Human rights.
 
How stupid? This is what you call good news? prostitution and homosexuality.



This is how you interpret prostitution and alcohol to be, "increase in human rights".
By omitting gays in your lst senence, you aknowledge that gay rights are human rights in a certain way?
 
By omitting gays in your lst senence, you aknowledge that gay rights are human rights in a certain way?

Well not in Islamic countries. They consider Homosexuality as an illness. Therefore, in that sense, Gays are not granted Human rights. Whatever the Western countries do, does not mean other countries have to abide by their laws.

Gay couples are only punished if they commit the act of Sodomy/sexual activity in public. The same goes for Heterosexual couples if they commit these acts in public.

What goes on in their private lives is none of the Islamic government concern. Even if it were, it would be difficult to be enforced.
 
If homosexulaity is human rights then what about pre martial sex - Islam does not agree with both
 
Well not in Islamic countries. They consider Homosexuality as an illness. Therefore, in that sense, Gays are not granted Human rights. Whatever the Western countries do, does not mean other countries have to abide by their laws.

Gay couples are only punished if they commit the act of Sodomy/sexual activity in public. The same goes for Heterosexual couples if they commit these acts in public.

What goes on in their private lives is none of the Islamic government concern. Even if it were, it would be difficult to be enforced.

Agreed.
 
nah, homosexuality is punished by death, and it is against nature

Cases of Homosexuality, that gay couples have participated in sexual activities are not always punished by death, from what I learnt how Islamic countries deal with these cases.

Some Islamic countries believe not much is achieved from death since there shall always be homosexuality. They take the rehabilitation approach. As a form of prevention.

Personally I believe in rehabilitation and second chances. For one to have a chance to ask for forgiveness.
 
I dont know if this has already been posted but there is another article on islamonline about the increase in homosexual prostitution in Iraq, check it out here
 
I love the Blame America Game...

Oh yes, because they drink, we should have never dis-placed Sadam Hussein. Next time a lunatic dictator decides to rule a country and support terrorism, let's let him stay, since, dare I say it, forbid, the people drink a beer!

Americans don't have family morals? This is new to me, I didn't know that. I guess when my family taught me to never hit a girl, always to address older people as sir/maam, and to always open the door for others, that was just something different...


Sorry I took so long to answer this thread I just started to read it. I agree Clover it seems the world wants to blame America for their problems at times and this is not just in the Mideast. Yet when they are in trouble or need aid in the aftermath of a natural disaster or whatever, who do they call for "help"? America. I personally get sick of seeing money go to feed foreign people in countires that dont want to learn how to become self sufficent they just want a handout. Yet in this country we have children and elderly people going to bed hungary. It sounds like your parents have done a good job of brining you up. I am teaching my son the same things. God forbid if he ever laid hands on a woman!! America is not a perfect country, but I would rather live here than anywhere else.
 
Sorry I took so long to answer this thread I just started to read it. I agree Clover it seems the world wants to blame America for their problems at times and this is not just in the Mideast. Yet when they are in trouble or need aid in the aftermath of a natural disaster or whatever, who do they call for "help"? America. I personally get sick of seeing money go to feed foreign people in countires that dont want to learn how to become self sufficent they just want a handout. Yet in this country we have children and elderly people going to bed hungary. It sounds like your parents have done a good job of brining you up. I am teaching my son the same things. God forbid if he ever laid hands on a woman!! America is not a perfect country, but I would rather live here than anywhere else.

The reason we blame America is not because we love blaming America but because the root of the problem started with America. There are corrupt leaders everywhere, just take a look at India, it is littered with corruption yet we do not see America waging a war against the leaders of India, do we?

If you get sick of money going to foreigners then you should stop sending your money to Israel before you stop sending your money anywhere else because thats where most of your money goes to.
 

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