Why I despise secular and liberal demoracy

[Amadeus85]

Today homosexual organizations in Poland (Struggle Against Homophobia) made a meeting in a kindergarten in city Gdansk to teach few year old children about tolerance and equality.
The sodomite activist read to children a book called "With Tango there are three of us". The book is about two male penguins from New York zoo who brought up kids. The book shows the relationship of two males as something positive and equal to normal relationship between one man and woman. There was also a show of animations about life of those 2 penguins.
This immoral and tricky show of sodomite propaganda was used against innocent children, younger than 6 years old. All this under a slogan of tolerance, equality and freedom. All this done in accordance with law of secular and demo-liberal republic of Poland. Another proof that secularism and liberal democracy are nihilist doctrines that destroyes the nations like a cancer.

 

[Uthman]

:threadapp

 

[Hugo]

Today homosexual organizations in Poland (Struggle Against Homophobia) made a meeting in a kindergarten in city Gdansk to teach few year old children about tolerance and equality.
The sodomite activist read to children a book called "With Tango there are three of us". The book is about two male penguins from New York zoo who brought up kids. The book shows the relationship of two males as something positive and equal to normal relationship between one man and woman. There was also a show of animations about life of those 2 penguins.
This immoral and tricky show of sodomite propaganda was used against innocent children, younger than 6 years old. All this under a slogan of tolerance, equality and freedom. All this done in accordance with law of secular and demo-liberal republic of Poland. Another proof that secularism and liberal democracy are nihilist doctrines that destroyes the nations like a cancer.

I agree with you this is degenerate but why blame it on secularism and liberal democracy as if sin comes from the state not from its people who created it. You also seem to ignore what is good in a liberal and democratic society so this looks too one sided an argument.

In any case a quick look at history will tell you that all kind of societies and governments perpetuated evils and these included Christian and Islamic societies as well as seculare ones.

What would you replace it by?

 

[جوري]

What would you replace it by?

on the lowest common denominator as far as children are concerned their world should be free from this crap by some governmental legal law.
The same way they enforce laws against sex offenders and age of consent.

I didn't know about homosexuality until I came to the western world.. my mind couldn't conceive it, and for the longest time wondered to myself how they perform such acts and what about them is satisfactory or fulfilling on a spiritual/personal and sexual level. I really believe that it is the introduction of such things under the guise of democracy that is setting the world down a degenerative path and anyone merely questioning the wisdom on the basis of social mores is harassed by a barrage of tasteless labels and insults..

You can't equate tolerance with espousal of such ideas and no one should really be made to, least of which when it comes to children.

all the best

 

[جوري]

Why is this oppressive

but this isn't?

I mean honestly what are we raising? are we placing more importance on sexuality or intellect? Do you think the girl in the second picture more attractive than the children in the first? and is this what you want their self worth and esteem to be based on?
children pick up things early.. is the world of gyrating men in tiny colorful bikinis parading on the streets what we want? Do we want them to think that their only value is in wearing skin tight revealing clothes and a pound of makeup?
is being co-dependent better than being self-sufficient?

a few things to ponder on whether or not the alternative is all that bad..
I have to tell you, I have such respect for the amish in the U.S that I have just donated today to one of their charities even though they are not Muslims.. and I hope they always keep their way of life..

all the best

 

[kawaiigardiner]

So you note a few far left wing loons as a benchmark to what is wrong with liberalism and democracy.

Stalin calls and he wants his murderous agenda back.

 

[جوري]

Stalin was actually an atheist, along with mao, enver hoxha and pol pot..
I don't think you can get any more liberal.. more people have died under atheist rule than all the religions combined.. so I am not sure what your point is? unless you are making one against your own alleged principles?

all the best

 

[kawaiigardiner]

Stalin was actually an atheist, along with mao, enver hoxha and pol pot..
I don't think you can get any more liberal.. more people have died under atheist rule than all the religions combined.. so I am not sure what your point is? unless you are making one against your own alleged principles?

all the best

Who said anything about Athism.

Liberalism and Democracy are not counter to the idea of religion - it is Islam that is against Liberalism and Democracy because it is Islam that favours a religious dictatorship like Iran.

 

[جوري]

Who said anything about Athism.

Liberalism and Democracy are not counter to the idea of religion - it is Islam that is against Liberalism and Democracy because it is Islam that favours a religious dictatorship like Iran.

I am not certain you actually understand what democracy is.. it is by definition a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them.. If the majority of citizens are Muslim and they elect someone to enforce sharia'a which by the way you have no knowledge of as evidenced by your occasional drive by shootings with your BB gun then that in fact the very definition of democracy (Iran doesn't govern by Islamic law) since they are shiites shia'a literally means faction, Islam doesn't recognize factions (why not educate yourself on the basic things before hurling with utter vehemence your distaste? .. liberalism favors sway from tradition, so you can be equally liberal about how many folks you kill as you'd handing out gay pride banners .. I am just astounded that you'd equate an atheist with religious zealots? where do you draw the semblance?.. it is a non-sequitur as is everything else you write..

now, you seem like an unhappy person extremely angry.. shouldn't your concession to music and homosexuality bring you some peace and Chanel your emotionality as you have so professed in your previous posts?

all the best

 

[aadil77]

yes it is disgusting, I bet some of the more feminine boys in that class are gonna grow up as homos now

 

[GuestFellow]

That is messed up.

 

[YusufNoor]

If you ignore God and claim no form of Shariah, what do you expect to happen?

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

homosexuality and the propagation of it, will breed nothing but a corrupt society that denies itself the recognition of its sound nature. if bs like this is propagated, then i wish society all the best mg:

 

[Trumble]

The sodomite activist read to children a book called "With Tango there are three of us". The book is about two male penguins from New York zoo who brought up kids. The book shows the relationship of two males as something positive and equal to normal relationship between one man and woman.

Actually the offending book is a true story about real penguins in the New York zoo, but why let the facts get in the way of mindless homophobia, eh? I'm glad to say that sales of this no doubt fascinating book have soared as a consequence of attempts to ban it.

The thing about secular and liberal democracy is that it, theoretically, allows all people to express their views.. even those as unpleasant and bigoted as yours.

 

[Amadeus85]

What would you replace it by?

Europe is secular and demo-liberal since about 50, or 60 years. Before this we had more than 1 thousand years other system, european traditional system, which would protect our nations from much parts of evil things promoted nowadays. Of course now its impossible to go back, here rather jedi believers or wiccans will have their kingdoms.

 

[Trumble]

Europe is secular and demo-liberal since about 50, or 60 years. Before this we had more than 1 thousand years other system, european traditional system, which would protect our nations from much parts of evil things promoted nowadays.

Absolutely. The good ol' days when we kept slaves. And women were some sort of inferior sub-species. And we stomped across the globe slaughtering assorted people to found and exploit 'colonies' which we had the divine right to do because we were better than them because our skins were white and theirs were not. But at least the gays kept in the closet.

They are sorely missed.

(sarcasm mode off)

 

[Amadeus85]

Absolutely. The good ol' days when we kept slaves. And women were some sort of inferior sub-species. And we stomped across the globe slaughtering assorted people to found and exploit 'colonies' which we had the divine right to do because we were better than them because our skins were white and theirs were not. But at least the gays kept in the closet.

They are sorely missed.

(sarcasm mode off)

Yes I was talking about christian (specificly catholic monarchies). But it could be also a republic (of course christian), these kind of states existed yet 40, 30 years ago - catholic republic of Italy, Ireland or Columbia.

1. slavery was something normal those days, all civilizations kept slaves. On the other hand I must say that I dont remember any slaves in Kingdom of France, Kingdom of Poland or Kingdom of England (but NOTE that Im talking about pre-XIX century times, because since Enligthment even many of our monarchies werent true.) But slaves were something normal in a country, republic built on enlightment and liberal rules- USA.

2. We had colonies because we were powerful, we were powerful because we were religious and theocratic. Now we are neither religious and theocratic and we wont have colonies.

3. It has nothing to do with the skin colour. Racism and xenophobia are something new, born in enlightmen, from Darwin's work. Trust me that for emperor Otto I or king Ludvic XIV it didnt matter whether someone was black or yellow, it wasnt their way of thinking as they were catholics. On the other hand You can check what Voltaire wrote about black people.

 

[ardianto]

According to secularists, forbid homosexuality is against human right. Although homosexuality is forbidden in every religion.

I am so sick to hear secularists say "Don't bring the religion if you want to talk something".

yes it is disgusting, I bet some of the more feminine boys in that class are gonna grow up as homos now

You can bet huge sum of your money (if bet is allowed in Islam), and you will not lose anything because you are right.

Usually a boy becomes homo causes by his childhood experience.
Maybe there is no adult will who do something bad to these boys, but they would assume homosexuality is normal and acceptable.

 

[Amadeus85]

Usually a boy becomes homo causes by his childhood experience.
Maybe there is no adult will who do something bad to these boys, but they would assume homosexuality is normal and acceptable.

Egzactly, man or woman who is into sodomy can be treated. A person becomes homosexual because he/she had been molested as a child or colour magazines told them that "a try with same sex is nothing bad". Thats a huge evil which modern popculture make to homosexual - to tell them that sodomy is nothing wrong. Otherwise they could think deeper and stop doing this act.

Thats what I like in islamic states, they support natural laws, and sodomites there understand that what they do is wrong, since in Europe they think that its just a alternative way of life.

 

[Trumble]

A person becomes homosexual because he/she had been molested as a child or colour magazines told them that "a try with same sex is nothing bad".

Complete rubbish. Can you provide ANY recognised medical, psychological or otherwise scientific source that supports that claim?