Should we give money to beggars?

I would prefer to be conned by a million people scamming me than risk not giving to one person truly needing help.

If I fail to give aid to a person in need, that is my sin and I need to face the results of it. If a person cons me that is their sin and what they reap from it will not be worth the paltry sum they have stolen from me.
 
S<Chowdhury said:
If they were standing outside a liquor store they maybe not give them money, but instead buy them some food or something. And if they are fake well most of them will just say No or insist on the money.
Click to expand...

Trust me I have heard it all, I was born and raised in Queens New York. They come up with everything. If you say I will buy you a meal, they're like no thanks can I just have money:hmm:
 
Italianguy said:
Trust me I have heard it all, I was born and raised in Queens New York. They come up with everything. If you say I will buy you a meal, they're like no thanks can I just have money:hmm:
Click to expand...


yeh i guess so but then what else can you do for them because you knw if you give any money they'll just go and spend it on alcohol. Apart from actually taking the time out to get them to go to counselling and things, but its impossible to do it for everyone you meet. i guess brother Woodrow has the right idea.
 
Actually, I was told as a Christian that I must give to anyone who ask's of me anything. The other day I left lunch with some clients and stopped at a red light. When I stopped, there was a man standing there with a sign that said "Homeless, iwill take anything your willing to give, God bless". I rolled down the window and was about to hand him money, when he saw me counting out a couple of $20.00 bills, i was going to hand him like $40.00 and he said "Sir I appreciate your giving me this money, but it is to much, I am sure you have bills to pay, I only ask of you what you can afford" NO JOKE! ...........I gave him $300.00 cash. How could I understand that kind of humility? He wanted to give some back! I thought to myself, ...he is a better man than I.

God be with him.
 
there alot of cases in asia...they chopped the children hands and feet and ask them to beg. And sometimes they kidnapped the children from Malaysia and brings to Thailand and force the to beg. :(

Last two days...theres one 12 year old boy has been kidnapped in a van...and people saw this. But no one has been caught yet. :(
 
Italianguy said:
Actually, I was told as a Christian that I must give to anyone who ask's of me anything. The other day I left lunch with some clients and stopped at a red light. When I stopped, there was a man standing there with a sign that said "Homeless, iwill take anything your willing to give, God bless". I rolled down the window and was about to hand him money, when he saw me counting out a couple of $20.00 bills, i was going to hand him like $40.00 and he said "Sir I appreciate your giving me this money, but it is to much, I am sure you have bills to pay, I only ask of you what you can afford" NO JOKE! ...........I gave him $300.00 cash. How could I understand that kind of humility? He wanted to give some back! I thought to myself, ...he is a better man than I.

God be with him.
Click to expand...

wow, true that he's a better man than i am, can't believe that.
 
Sis skye said the best thing.

Regarding beggars in Saudi Arabia especially Makkah, my dad has adopted one policy. If a beggar says "i need money to buy food." My dad tells them "come with me, I will buy you whatever you want, and we will eat together." needless to say, most of them start making excuses. Which shows that they are not being honest. So the beggars start sending female beggars because my dad cant offer to eat with them ... smart guys.

But on my recent visit, I did see some sisters sitting outside masjids with small kids. I think its a good idea to give to them, who knows they are divorced or what.
 
Last edited:
syilla said:
there alot of cases in asia...they chopped the children hands and feet and ask them to beg. And sometimes they kidnapped the children from Malaysia and brings to Thailand and force the to beg. :(

Last two days...theres one 12 year old boy has been kidnapped in a van...and people saw this. But no one has been caught yet. :(
Click to expand...

Yeah Slumdog Millionaire showed that graphically, its really sad :(. But sometimes people sell there limbs in order to get money definitely in 3rd world countries. Other times in countries like Bangladesh and India they kidnap kids from the slums and take there organs for money. Its really a sad reality people face such hardship especially children.
 
Wa7abiScientist said:
Sis skye said the best thing.

Regarding beggars in Saudi Arabia especially Makkah, my dad has adopted one policy. If a beggar says "i need money to buy food." My dad tells them "come with me, I will buy you whatever you want, and we will eat together." needless to say, most of them start making excuses. Which shows that they are not being honest. So the beggars start sending female beggars because my dad cant offer to eat with them ... smart guys.

But on my recent visit, I did see some sisters sitting outside masjids with small kids. I think its a good idea to give to them, who knows they are divorced or what.
Click to expand...

I offered rice to a poor lady on my way to Haram but she refused. :(
 
This only happened last month :(

http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/legal/general_news/extreme_tactics_used_on_beggars.html

MALACCA: The presence of three horribly disfigured beggars at night markets in Taman Malim Jaya and Kampung Lapan here has shocked residents into calling for the authorities to step in.

The faces and foreheads of the three seem to have been scalded with acid and two of them had no hands and one had no toes.

Their faces were so disfigured that it is difficult to guess their gender and age.

The three, believed to be foreigners, appeared at several night markets here about three weeks ago, startling residents with their deformities.

Readers tipped off Starprobe when the similarities among the three and their appearances together at the same night market at the same time arouse suspicions that they might belong to a syndicate preying on the emotions of the people to get money.

Their modus operandi has apparently worked well, judging from the money they have been able to collect.

On Tuesday evening, the Starprobe team followed these beggars and saw them being picked up by a taxi.

The team tailed them but the taxi driver managed to lose them after realising they were being followed.

The team also tried to follow them on Monday evening.

Residents said they were concerned about the beggars as it was possible that they were victims of syndicates who could have abducted them.

“Without their hands, it is most likely they cannot even feed themselves.

“Their faces are so disfigured, so even if their family members did stumble upon them, they would not recognise them at all. It’s pretty shocking.

“Without their fingers, thumb prints are gone. I hope the authorities can trace them and establish their identities,’’ a resident said.

Another caller expressed suspicion over the whole thing, saying that she believed such beggars, especially if they were “purposely disfigured”, were there more for greed.

“They are nothing more than employed beggars,” the caller said.
Click to expand...
 
S<Chowdhury said:
Yeah Slumdog Millionaire showed that graphically, its really sad :(. But sometimes people sell there limbs in order to get money definitely in 3rd world countries. Other times in countries like Bangladesh and India they kidnap kids from the slums and take there organs for money. Its really a sad reality people face such hardship especially children.
Click to expand...

Yeah your right. The depictions in that movie are correct. :cry: My wife said she always had little kids that had been disfigured on purpose comming to her for money:cry: They do this to them to make them seem more destitute.....saddest part is ....they really are that bad off. imsad

I have been begging my wife to go to India soon...but I fear I wont be able to handle seeing a little homeless girl begging without me getting angry and trying to do something about it:heated: I told my wife I will bring them all home with me:D

It would take an act of God to stop me form K****ng a man I caught do that to those children:raging::raging::raging::raging: I would give my life to help at least one of those children.

How can someone do that:cry: I melt when i see my wifes 4 year old cousin staring at me with a huge smile:D and those huge brown eyes:statisfie And saddly a picture comes to mind of those who never smile:cry:
 
Italianguy said:
Yeah your right. The depictions in that movie are correct. :cry: My wife said she always had little kids that had been disfigured on purpose comming to her for money:cry: They do this to them to make them seem more destitute.....saddest part is ....they really are that bad off. imsad

I have been begging my wife to go to India soon...but I fear I wont be able to handle seeing a little homeless girl begging without me getting angry and trying to do something about it:heated: I told my wife I will bring them all home with me:D

It would take an act of God to stop me form K****ng a man I caught do that to those children:raging::raging::raging::raging: I would give my life to help at least one of those children.

How can someone do that:cry: I melt when i see my wifes 4 year old cousin staring at me with a huge smile:D and those huge brown eyes:statisfie And saddly a picture comes to mind of those who never smile:cry:
Click to expand...

Yeah same brother, I wish i could adopt every last one of them and give them a better life, but it would be impossible, i melt too everytime i see cute lil children living in such poverty. Hmmm hopefully when i finish my studies and get a gd job start up a few children homes or something
 
S<Chowdhury said:
Yeah same brother, I wish i could adopt every last one of them and give them a better life, but it would be impossible, i melt too everytime i see cute lil children living in such poverty. Hmmm hopefully when i finish my studies and get a gd job start up a few children homes or something
Click to expand...

God willng, you shall do so my friend!:D

My wifes aunty and uncle live in USA and are doctors (they're Indian) they built a village in India that caters to educating and saving the women from prostitution and those same beggar children. They started off by themselves and 4 residents....now they have 28,000 residents there(Indian and Pakistani):D:D They are Christians but welcome all who need help, from any religion without them being forced to convert whatso ever! They spend 6 months in India and 6 months in USA. They have NEVER had a day off! No joke. We begged them to take a vacation, they outright refuse. They do all the work themselves including providing free medical help, homes, schools, churchs , mosques, temples, they fund %75 themselves!! They have no home in India and only a small 1 room apartment in USA. They have no retirement, they give everything away, they said "We cannot bring anything with us to heaven, we will die serving humanity" I only wish I were as good as them! They also adopted 12 of the children for themselves. 2 of which are blind and 2 who have had their arms ......removed by syndicates. All of them help.

They are an amazing example of humanity we should ALL strive to be like.

God bless them.
 
Its about stopping the vicious cycle but you can't do that without changing the policing, corruption and this exploitation of people. Charities and children homes they can only go so far, it slows the process down and makes it harder for these well without using fowl language Callous people from snatching children. Unless the police and politicians stop taking bribes etc it'll never change...... :(

Even in the refugee camps in Pakistan etc exploitation happens, kids are employed by clothing manufacturer companies for 2p an hour, just so we can have cheap clothes....disgusting to say the least in a refugee camp of all places.
 

Similar Threads

Back
Top