A devastating war between Israel & Hezbollah is on the horizon

[Getoffmyback]

Oh i mean today is 14 of feb.

 

[VizierX]

Ok i'm watching tv right now. Its sunday 14th or march 11:30 am. Israel airplanes entered the lebanese airspace .

Israeli airplanes always do that. They have no respect for Lebanese sovereignty. They think the entire region is their playground and they can do what they want. And the world just sits by and does nothing. Makes me angry just thinking about it.

 

[The_Prince]

For starters, who and how broke the ceasefire or peace in 2006 Lebanon war?

even if you dont agree with anything, a fact you can never dispute, is that Israel continues to break lebanease airspace, which a violation.

america, or europe, would never stand a hostile country sending war planes over their skies over and over again, that ALONE is a provocation that deserves a rough response, and we all know if America was in such a position, it sure would do so.

imagine Iran sent warplans over America, there would be outrage, calls for war, then imagine Iran did it again, America would shoot them down, and most likely go after Iran.

 

[Froggy]

even if you dont agree with anything, a fact you can never dispute, is that Israel continues to break lebanease airspace, which a violation.

america, or europe, would never stand a hostile country sending war planes over their skies over and over again, that ALONE is a provocation that deserves a rough response, and we all know if America was in such a position, it sure would do so.

imagine Iran sent warplans over America, there would be outrage, calls for war, then imagine Iran did it again, America would shoot them down, and most likely go after Iran.

Lebanon did shoot on Israeli planes.

 

[VizierX]

Lebanon did shoot on Israeli planes.

Maybe those Israeli planes shouldn't have been violating Lebanese airspace? Did not that cross you mind?

 

[aadil77]

Lebanon did shoot on Israeli planes.

IsraelNN.com) Lebanon, which has openly embraced Hizbullah both politically and militarily, fired on four Israeli surveillance planes Sunday, its military stated. No direct hits were reported. The Lebanese army rarely fires on Israel unless the planes come within range of their artillery guns.



Israel has continued flights over southern Lebanon in order to monitor Hizbullah terrorist operations in the area where the United Nations forces were mandated to disarm the terrorist organization after the Second Lebanon War in 2006. At the outset of the ceasefire agreement, U.N. commanders said they could not implement the agreement, and Israel has tried to fill the breach in security although the flights technically are violations of the ceasefire.


Sunday's anti-aircraft firing came amidst an escalation in rhetoric by Israel and the Syrian-Hizbullah-Lebanese axis as well as increased weapons smuggling into Lebanon. “War in Lebanon is discussed everyday on almost every street corner,” CNN reported Sunday.


Prime Minister Saad Hariri told the BBC last week that Israeli military activity is "really dangerous,” noting that surveillance planes have entered Lebanese airspace “every day" during the past two months. Israel has repeatedly accused Lebanon of a “blatant violation” of the ceasefire agreement by allowing Hizbullah to smuggle more missiles into southern as well as northern Lebanon.




Sunday marked the fifth year since former anti-Syrian leader and prime minister Rafik Hariri was assassinated, and Syria has widely been held responsible for the murder. His son Saad Hariri now is at the helm of the Lebanese government but unlike his father, he has established friendly relations with Damascus. He also incorporated Hizbullah into a part of his government and military planning.


In addition to friendly meetings between Hariri and Syrian President Bashar Assad, Khaled Mashaal, Damascus-based commander of Hamas, recently met with Hizbullah's number one leader, Hassan Nasrallah, placing two of the world's top terrorists in the same room. Hariri has described Hizbullah as “the resistance.”

 

[Supreme]

Ah, the Middle East! Conflicts, bombs, religion, more conflict, more religion, nationalism, desert, Abrahamic descendants, beauty, heat, more conflict and violence. Some day I shall retire there!

 

[Froggy]

Maybe those Israeli planes shouldn't have been violating Lebanese airspace? Did not that cross you mind?

It did, bit the Prince seemed to think the Lebanese armed froced just stood still.

 

[The_Prince]

It did, bit the Prince seemed to think the Lebanese armed froced just stood still.

they shot at them, but doesnt change the fact that israel commited the violation, hence the point remains, didnt u get it? u were asking about who started what, israel keeps violating their airspace, and if this happened to america, america would go to war, not just shoot at the planes and end it there.

 

[Froggy]

they shot at them, but doesnt change the fact that israel commited the violation, hence the point remains, didnt u get it? u were asking about who started what, israel keeps violating their airspace, and if this happened to america, america would go to war, not just shoot at the planes and end it there.

This is recent news, I remember news of Hezbollah firing rockets to Israel (rockets are worse than planes and Israel didnt start a war) a months or so ago. Both parties seemed to have violated whatever ceasefire there may be. The question is who started.

 

[The_Prince]

This is recent news, I remember news of Hezbollah firing rockets to Israel (rockets are worse than planes and Israel didnt start a war) a months or so ago. Both parties seemed to have violated whatever ceasefire there may be. The question is who started.

israel has been entering lebanease airspace BEFORE hezbollah started firing and who said im talking about recent news? you seem to be quite ignorant of the fact that Israel TIME AND TIME AGAIN BREAKS LEBANEASE AIRSPACE, its such a common occurance that you cant keep track of them. everyone knows about them, just go search it.

furthermore, israel is occupying lebanease land, which the UN even recognizes, hence that in itself is 24-7 violation of lebanon, and an act of war!

face the facts buddies, its israel thats breaking every violation and causing every provocation. occupying other land, sending war planes over another country, not to mention carrying out covert assasinations even AFTER THEY SIGN A CEASEFIRE.

 

[Froggy]

israel has been entering lebanease airspace BEFORE hezbollah started firing and who said im talking about recent news? you seem to be quite ignorant of the fact that Israel TIME AND TIME AGAIN BREAKS LEBANEASE AIRSPACE, its such a common occurance that you cant keep track of them. everyone knows about them, just go search it.

furthermore, israel is occupying lebanease land, which the UN even recognizes, hence that in itself is 24-7 violation of lebanon, and an act of war!

face the facts buddies, its israel thats breaking every violation and causing every provocation. occupying other land, sending war planes over another country, not to mention carrying out covert assasinations even AFTER THEY SIGN A CEASEFIRE.

I think the UN recognises the Israeli position on the matter.

 

[Dagless]

What part of Lebanon are you referring to?
When did it agree to release POWs?

Why am I the one explaining everything? Where is your own research? If you know something please speak up.

Israel occupying southern Lebanon at that time is not disputed. If you are arguing against established fact then you have the responsibility to produce evidence.

I think the UN recognises the Israeli position on the matter.

Where are you getting this from? You do realise Israel itself is probably not the best place for info right? The original invasion was ruled by the UN to have no valid reason under international law. Israel then violated U.N. resolution 1701 when it refused to leave Lebanon in '06.

 

[Froggy]

Why am I the one explaining everything? Where is your own research? If you know something please speak up.

Israel occupying southern Lebanon at that time is not disputed. If you are arguing against established fact then you have the responsibility to produce evidence.



Where are you getting this from? You do realise Israel itself is probably not the best place for info right? The original invasion was ruled by the UN to have no valid reason under international law. Israel then violated U.N. resolution 1701 when it refused to leave Lebanon in '06.

The nly disputed territory between Israel and Lebanon I am aware of are some farms Israel claims are Syrian and the UN accepts Israeli position.

 

[barney]

Well in the last war, Israel used targeted precision attacks and killed 600 odd militia in a close quarter urban fight.

Many people at the time abhored this and asked for a "Proportional Response".

That would equate, if we take proportinal in a literal fashion, that Israel should build a total of 3'480 highly inaccurate missiles and launch them at Lebanese civilian areas in a scattered fashion to respond correctly to the 3'480 missiles scattered by Lebanon into Israel.
I personally hope,that they dont retaliate and just sit there and get bombarded with impunity by the terrorists, but If they do retaliate,I hope it is not proportionate, and they act as restrained as they did the last time.

Considering of course that Israel can deliver 400,000 tons of high explosive every day with its Airforce alone and could smash Beruit to cinders. Choosing such limited targeted attacks that endangered their forces to minimise risk to civilians was indeed a huge act self control.

 

[Dagless]

The nly disputed territory between Israel and Lebanon I am aware of are some farms Israel claims are Syrian and the UN accepts Israeli position.

Are you talking about '06? or the earlier occupation?

Well in the last war, Israel used targeted precision attacks and killed 600 odd militia in a close quarter urban fight.

Many people at the time abhored this and asked for a "Proportional Response".

That would equate, if we take proportinal in a literal fashion, that Israel should build a total of 3'480 highly inaccurate missiles and launch them at Lebanese civilian areas in a scattered fashion to respond correctly to the 3'480 missiles scattered by Lebanon into Israel.
I personally hope,that they dont retaliate and just sit there and get bombarded with impunity by the terrorists, but If they do retaliate,I hope it is not proportionate, and they act as restrained as they did the last time.

Considering of course that Israel can deliver 400,000 tons of high explosive every day with its Airforce alone and could smash Beruit to cinders. Choosing such limited targeted attacks that endangered their forces to minimise risk to civilians was indeed a huge act self control.

Really? So these rockets which are fired into Israel, how many Israeli's do they actually kill?
Why are Israel being bombarded in the first place? For fun? or have they done something to deserve it?
Lastly, technology isn't everything. Somehow, even when fighting away from cilvillian villages, vastly outnumbering Hezbollah, having better weapons and more money, they managed to sustain more losses and were driven back.

 

[Froggy]

Are you talking about '06? or the earlier occupation?

The occupation Israel withdrew from in 2000.

 

[Dagless]

The occupation Israel withdrew from in 2000.

Yes, but it wasn't a total withdrawal from Lebanese land. Some of southern Lebanon (like Ghajar) was still occupied. This is why resolution 1701 was drawn up, which Israel then violated in 2006.
If another nation is occupying your land it is certainly provocation at the least, most countries would not be as patient as Lebanon.

 

[barney]

Are you talking about '06? or the earlier occupation?



Really? So these rockets which are fired into Israel, how many Israeli's do they actually kill?
Why are Israel being bombarded in the first place? For fun? or have they done something to deserve it?
Lastly, technology isn't everything. Somehow, even when fighting away from cilvillian villages, vastly outnumbering Hezbollah, having better weapons and more money, they managed to sustain more losses and were driven back.

Incompetence shouldnt be assigned the respect of Intent. If they had Israels capacity, Israel wouldnt exist. Not a man or a woman or a child. Palastine from the river to the sea.

Do Israeli civilians deserve to have high explosives chucked at the daily? The answer will lie on your perspective of wether they are people , or wether they are dirty zionists from the Soldier in the tank, to the baby in the pram.

And yes, Hezbollah was extatic that they were not beaten, and would have ascribed it firstly to Allahs protection and then to poor jewish fighting spirit. "Ha! See them run? They are not true men! We are LIONS!"

The idea that Israel carried out a very limited campaign with great concern for casulties and little regard for their own troops over the Lebanese civilians, then pulled out due to International pressure? This never crosses their minds. Nor that Israel's airforce could have sortied 400 strikes a day day and night and reduced the cities to ash along with everyone in it.:hmm:

 

[Froggy]

Yes, but it wasn't a total withdrawal from Lebanese land. Some of southern Lebanon (like Ghajar) was still occupied. This is why resolution 1701 was drawn up, which Israel then violated in 2006.
If another nation is occupying your land it is certainly provocation at the least, most countries would not be as patient as Lebanon.

Resolution 1701 was signed in 2006.
Ghajar is not occupied Lebanese territory, half of it is Lebanese and half of it is Israeli occupied Syrian territory.