Role model in your community

[truth finder]

Why is everything about your religion for show? can't you do without expecting praise or a false conversion?

I disagree with you. The Christian believer in our home country or Mother Teresa did not do it for show. They devoted their whole life to caring for social outcasts in remote villages far from the big cities. As you say, people can pretend to do good deeds for show for a little while, but not certainly for their entire life. These two individuals did not devote their life expecting praise or a false conversion. When they experienced the overwhelming grace of God, namely, unconditional forgiveness of God for all human beings through the sacrificial death of Jesus, they got a calling from God to care for fellow human beings as their genuine expression of love for God.

 

[جوري]

I disagree with you. The Christian believer in our home country or Mother Teresa did not do it for show. They devoted their whole life to caring for social outcasts in remote villages far from the big cities. As you say, people can pretend to do good deeds for show for a little while, but not certainly for their entire life. These two individuals did not devote their life expecting praise or a false conversion. When they experienced the overwhelming grace of God, namely, unconditional forgiveness of God for all human beings through the sacrificial death of Jesus, they got a calling from God to care for fellow human beings as their genuine expression of love for God.

Who knows why people do what they do? what lies in the breasts of men is between them and God!
It can appear as dedication to God, to others it appears as scoring poor impoverished children for the catholic church.. as stated before what one does is between one and the creator, not a communal effort for praise!

all the best

 

[truth finder]

Do you know what God regards the most precious in the universe? It is human beings, at least, according to the Bible. Human beings are the purpose of His creation for the universe. Human beings are the focus of His love, at least, according to the Bible. That is why Jesus died on the cross to bring human beings to the Father, because we are that much precious and special to the eyes of God. Thus we cannot separately think our love for God and our love for human beings. Our love for God is best demonstrated through our love for other human beings, which is exemplified by those two individuals.

I am not saying that the Muslim community does not have such individuals. I just want to know the stories of those people in your society, because most people are touched and moved by those stories rather than devout religious performances.

 

[جوري]

Do you know what God regards the most precious in the universe? It is human beings, at least, according to the Bible. Human beings are the purpose of His creation for the universe. Human beings are the focus of His love, at least, according to the Bible. That is why Jesus died on the cross to bring human beings to the Father, because we are that much precious and special to the eyes of God. Thus we cannot separately think our love for God and our love for human beings. Our love for God is best demonstrated through our love for other human beings, which is exemplified by those two individuals. I am not saying that the Muslim community does not have such individuals. I just want to know the stories of those people in your society, because most people are touched and moved by those stories rather than devout religious performances.

Thank you, come again.. Jesus loves ya
have a banana

Picture removed by Woodrow. The innuendo that seems to be there makes the picture inappropriate

 

[truth finder]

You seem to make fun of God’s love for us. We can understand the love of God for us through the love of parents for children, because the latter is a shadow of the former. Parents do not bear their children to submit to themselves as servants, but to give their love to them. Although some people still do not understand the love of God for us through Jesus, God’s unconditional love for us is actually the driving force of our faith.

We agree the most precious virtue of humanity is love. The strongest love of all is the love between mother and her children. Have you not heard that a mother jumped into the water to save her drowning children by sacrificing her own life or jumped into the incoming car to save her children from collision by sacrificing her own life? Perhaps it is one of the most touching stories in the world. Human mother's love is the strongest among all loves and incomparable to all the others, because she delivered her children by shedding her own blood with great pain. This is a reflection or shadow of God's love for his creatures (human beings) through Jesus Christ who died on the cross by shedding his own blood with great pain to pay the penalty of our sins on our behalf. God’s love for us is unconditional in character. “While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8). Regardless of whether we will receive or reject his love of forgiveness, whether we will submit to him or not, he first gave us himself as a sacrifice for our sins. This unconditional love motivates our deepest love and submission for God.

I hope my understanding of your comment (you seem to make fun of God’s love for us) is wrong.

 

[جوري]

You seem to make fun of God’s love for us. We can understand the love of God for us through the love of parents for children, because the latter is a shadow of the former. Parents do not bear their children to submit to themselves as servants, but to give their love to them. Although some people still do not understand the love of God for us through Jesus, God’s unconditional love for us is actually the driving force of our faith.

We agree the most precious virtue of humanity is love. The strongest love of all is the love between mother and her children. Have you not heard that a mother jumped into the water to save her drowning children by sacrificing her own life or jumped into the incoming car to save her children from collision by sacrificing her own life? Perhaps it is one of the most touching stories in the world. Human mother's love is the strongest among all loves and incomparable to all the others, because she delivered her children by shedding her own blood with great pain. This is a reflection or shadow of God's love for his creatures (human beings) through Jesus Christ who died on the cross by shedding his own blood with great pain to pay the penalty of our sins on our behalf. God’s love for us is unconditional in character. “While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8). Regardless of whether we will receive or reject his love of forgiveness, whether we will submit to him or not, he first gave us himself as a sacrifice for our sins. This unconditional love motivates our deepest love and submission for God.

I hope my understanding of your comment (you seem to make fun of God’s love for us) is wrong.

I make fun of you, and your desperate efforts to sell something that simply doesn't exist and certainly doesn't echo in any of your collective actions and the fulcrum upon which it stands is so faulty even a four year old can refute.
I think you should go back to evangelist' training camp and have them do better than god died for you crap if you are desirous of an actual intellectual dialogue.. The only place this fits in is impoverished areas where folks will do anything for a meal or medicine and it is a shame for you to 'spread the good word' with bribes as we often see you do....

now buzz off you are starting to be like a persistent verruca!

 

[truth finder]

Although you try to make fun of me, I choose not to do the same to you. I started this thread to hear about touching stories in your community that showed their love for God demonstrated through their love for fellow human beings, not to debate theology of Islam or Christianity. People including me are touched and moved by this kind of story than by religious performances. In fact the Christian man in our home country refused to leave lepers when the area was retaken by communist rebels, and was executed later by communist soldiers. Certainly he did good deeds not for a show. Christians do not do good deeds for show, as much as Muslims do not do good deeds for show. I believe there are those Muslims like Mother Teresa or this Christian believer of our home country. Would you please share their stories with me? Thank you.

 

[جوري]

Have you read the above? It isn't good religiously (Islamically) to do good and then advertise-- it detracts from their worth!

all the best

 

[أحمد]

Although you try to make fun of me, I choose not to do the same to you. I started this thread to hear about touching stories in your community that showed their love for God demonstrated through their love for fellow human beings, not to debate theology of Islam or Christianity. People including me are touched and moved by this kind of story than by religious performances. In fact the Christian man in our home country refused to leave lepers when the area was retaken by communist rebels, and was executed later by communist soldiers. Certainly he did good deeds not for a show. Christians do not do good deeds for show, as much as Muslims do not do good deeds for show. I believe there are those Muslims like Mother Teresa or this Christian believer of our home country. Would you please share their stories with me? Thank you.

As Muslims, we can't go around making every impressive human being our role model. Islam is a path which leads to complete purity and shows a perfect example for us to follow.

For those who are Christians; is it not better that their role model should be someone sent by God, rather than someone they themselves have become impressed by? Is the faith of people so weak that they must depend on public impressions of others?

What you may hear about people especially through the popular media, isn't always accurate information, and is never based on getting honest unadulterated information to the global community. Maybe a journalist can give some better insight on media.

Its not a duty of a Muslim to base his/her life on impressing others; Islam is a way of life, which is based on the commandments of Allah and the tradition of His Messenger :saws1: Rasoolullah :saws1: is our role model, just as previous Prophets and Messengers were role models for those they were sent to. A Muslim is someone who accepts all prophets and messengers, the final messenger :saws1: being the perfect example for mankind as stated by Allah.

:wa:

 

[Ramadhan]

Although some people still do not understand the love of God for us through Jesus,

One moment you said jesus is god, now you said jesus is god's intermediary. make up your mind will you?

God’s unconditional love for us is actually the driving force of our faith.

according to you and all other christian, god's love for me is unconditional, but then he will sent me to hell for eternity?
This makes as much sense as 3 gods in 1 and 1 god for 3.

Here's God's mercy (which you christians have devalued as "love") according to prophet Muhammad SAW:


The Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) said, "When Allah created the creatures, He wrote in the Book, which is with Him over His Throne: "Verily, My Mercy prevailed over My Wrath."
(Al-Bukhari)


The Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) also said, "Allah has divided mercy into 100 parts, and He retained with Him 99 parts, and sent down to earth 1 part. Through this one part creatures deal with one another with compassion, so much so that an animal lifts its hoof over its young lest it should hurt it." (Al-Bukhari)
(the 99 parts is reserved in the heavens, and may be used to forgive human during judgement day, this is for you to ponder)

The two attributes of Allah, Ar-Rahman and Ar-Rahim, which mean "The Most Gracious" and "The Most Merciful" respectively are probably the most repeated ones, as they are mentioned again and again in different verses as well as at the beginning of 113 chapters of the Qur'an: "In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful."

Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) said, "Those who show mercy to their fellow beings will be shown mercy by the Merciful Lord. So, show mercy to those on the earth, and He Who is in the heaven will show mercy to you." (At-Tirmidhi)


The Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) also said:

Allah ordered the appointed angels over you that the good and the bad deeds be written, and He then showed how to write. If someone intends to do a good deed and he does not do it, then Allah will write for him a full good deed, and if he intends to do a good deed and actually did it, then Allah will write for him its reward equal from 10 to 700 times to many more times. And If someone intends to do a bad deed and he does not do it, then Allah will write for him a full good deed (in his account) with Him, and if he intends to do a bad deed and actually did it, then Allah will write for him one bad deed. (Al-Bukhari)

There is another famous hadith where the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) is reported to have said,


Allah, the Almighty, says, 'Whosoever does a good deed, will have a reward 10 times like it and I add more, and whosoever does an evil, will have the punishment like it or I will forgive him, and whosoever approaches Me by one span, I will approach him by one cubit, and whosoever approaches Me by one cubit, I approach him by one fathom, and whosoever comes to Me walking, I go to him running, and whosoever meets Me with an earth-load of sins without associating anything with Me, I meet him with forgiveness like that.' (Muslim)


It is Allah's infinite compassion and mercy to His obedient servants that is expressed in the above two hadiths.


`Umar ibn Al-Khattab said: Some captives were brought to the Messenger of Allah and there was a woman among them whose breasts were full of milk. Suddenly, this woman saw an infant in the midst of the captives. She took hold of it, brought it into her bosom, and started nursing it. The Prophet then told the Companions, "Do you think that this woman would throw her child in the fire?" We said, "No, By Allah she would not, if she is able not to." He then said, "Allah the Exalted is more merciful with His slave than this woman with her child." (Al-Bukhari)


Here, the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) clearly tells us that the mercy of Allah is far greater than the mercy of a loving and caring mother for her child. This comparison is made by the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) to make the idea of Allah's boundless mercy as clear to ordinary humans as they can comprehend.

 

[truth finder]

Have you read the above? It isn't good religiously (Islamically) to do good and then advertise-- it detracts from their worth!

all the best

I do not think the Christian man that forgave the communist rebel who killed his two innocent sons and later adopted him as his own son did the good deed to advertise it. I do not think the believer who sucked the pus in the wound of lepers to relieve their pain did the good to get attention from people. Our love for fellow human beings, particularly, social outcasts, is a direct reflection of our love for God. This is why they are respected more than some other Christians who did remarkable religious performances such as memorizing the whole scripture and 40 day fasting without eating anything except water.

Of course there are other good role models in the scripture such as God’s prophets we can think of. But it would be more beneficial to find those people in the recent history so that the memory of their life is still fresh. Those individuals did not attract the attention of general public with their good deeds. Instead general public were attracted to them by their sacrificial love for fellow human beings.

 

[جوري]

I see what you want, well the net is riddled with such stories, surely you can just google?

anyhow, here is a recent one, during the genocide in Rwanda Muslims were taking in Christians and hiding them and offering them food and shelter while the christians were out slaughtering one another.. Muslims have been honored by the national government for their roles in saving the lives regardless of their faith. Many people attribute the recent spread of Islam to these humanitarian acts.

Islam Attracting Many Survivors of Rwanda Genocide

Jihad Is Taught as 'Struggle to Heal'

By Emily Wax
Washington Foreign Post Service
Monday, September 23, 2002; Page A10

RUHENGERI, Rwanda -- The villagers with their forest green head wraps and forest green Korans arrived at the mosque on a rainy Sunday afternoon for a lecture for new converts. There was one main topic: jihad.
They found their seats and flipped to the right page. Hands flew in the air. People read passages aloud. And the word jihad -- holy struggle -- echoed again and again through the dark, leaky room.

Many Rwandans are converting to Islam after Muslims hide them during the genocide. (Emily Wax - The Washington Post)

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It wasn't the kind of jihad that has been in the news since Sept. 11, 2001. There were no references to Osama bin Laden, the World Trade Center or suicide bombers. Instead there was only talk of April 6, 1994, the first day of the state-sponsored genocide in which ethnic Hutu extremists killed 800,000 minority Tutsis and Hutu moderates.
"We have our own jihad, and that is our war against ignorance between Hutu and Tutsi. It is our struggle to heal," said Saleh Habimana, the head mufti of Rwanda. "Our jihad is to start respecting each other and living as Rwandans and as Muslims."
Since the genocide, Rwandans have converted to Islam in huge numbers. Muslims now make up 14 percent of the 8.2 million people here in Africa's most Catholic nation, twice as many as before the killings began.
Many converts say they chose Islam because of the role that some Catholic and Protestant leaders played in the genocide. Human rights groups have documented several incidents in which Christian clerics allowed Tutsis to seek refuge in churches, then surrendered them to Hutu death squads, as well as instances of Hutu priests and ministers encouraging their congregations to kill Tutsis. Today some churches serve as memorials to the many people slaughtered among their pews.
Four clergymen are facing genocide charges at the U.N.-created International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, and last year in Belgium, the former colonial power, two Rwandan nuns were convicted of murder for their roles in the massacre of 7,000 Tutsis who sought protection at a Benedictine convent.
In contrast, many Muslim leaders and families are being honored for protecting and hiding those who were fleeing.
Some say Muslims did this because of the religion's strong dictates against murder, though Christian doctrine proscribes it as well. Others say Muslims, always considered an ostracized minority, were not swept up in the Hutus' campaign of bloodshed and were unafraid of supporting a cause they felt was honorable.
"I know people in America think Muslims are terrorists, but for Rwandans they were our freedom fighters during the genocide," said Jean Pierre Sagahutu, 37, a Tutsi who converted to Islam from Catholicism after his father and nine other members of his family were slaughtered. "I wanted to hide in a church, but that was the worst place to go. Instead, a Muslim family took me. They saved my life."
Sagahutu said his father had worked at a hospital where he was friendly with a Muslim family. They took Sagahutu in, even though they were Hutus. "I watched them pray five times a day. I ate with them and I saw how they lived," he said. "When they pray, Hutu and Tutsi are in the same mosque. There is no difference. I needed to see that."
Islam has long been a religion of the downtrodden. In the Middle East and South Asia, the religion has had a strong focus on outreach to the poor and tackling social ills by banning alcohol and encouraging sexual modesty. In the United States, Malcolm X used a form of Islam to encourage economic and racial empowerment among blacks.
Muslim leaders say they have a natural constituency in Rwanda, where AIDS and poverty have replaced genocide as the most daunting problems. "Islam fits into the fabric of our society. It helps those who are in poverty. It preaches against behaviors that create AIDS. It offers education in the Koran and Arabic when there is not a lot of education being offered," said Habimana, the chief mufti. "I think people can relate to Islam. They are converting as a sign of appreciation to the Muslim community who sheltered them during the genocide."
While Western governments worry that the growth of Islam carries with it the danger of militancy, there are few signs of militant Islam in Rwanda. Nevertheless, some government officials quietly express concern that some of the mosques receive funding from Saudi Arabia, whose dominant Wahhabi sect has been embraced by militant groups in other parts of the world. They also worry that high poverty rates and a traumatized population make Rwanda the perfect breeding ground for Islamic extremism.
But Nish Imiyimana, an imam here in Ruhengeri, about 45 miles northwest of Kigali, the capital, contends: "We have enough of our own problems. We don't want a bomb dropped on us by America. We want American NGOs [nongovernmental organizations] to come and build us hospitals instead."
Imams across the country held meetings after Sept. 11, 2001, to clarify what it means to be a Muslim. "I told everyone, 'Islam means peace,' " said Imiyimana, recalling that the mosque was packed that day. "Considering our track record, it wasn't hard to convince them."
That fact worries the Catholic church. Priests here said they have asked for advice from church leaders in Rome about how to react to the number of converts to Islam.
"The Catholic church has a problem after genocide," said the Rev. Jean Bosco Ntagugire, who works at Kigali churches. "The trust has been broken. We can't say, 'Christians come back.' We have to hope that happens when faith builds again."
To help make that happen, the Catholic church has started to offer youth sports programs and camping trips, Ntagugire said. But Muslims are also reaching out, even forming women's groups that provide classes on child care and being a mother.
At a recent class here, hundreds of women dressed in red, orange and purple head coverings gathered in a dark clay building. They talked about their personal struggle, or jihad, to raise their children well. And afterward, during a lunch of beans and chicken legs, they ate heartily and shared stories about how Muslims saved them during the genocide.
"If it weren't for the Muslims, my whole family would be dead," said Aisha Uwimbabazi, 27, a convert and mother of two children. "I was very, very thankful for Muslim people during the genocide. I thought about it and I really felt it was right to change."



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53018-2002Sep22.html


all the best

 

[truth finder]

Thank you very much for the relevant story. This is what I wanted to hear about in your community. I am glad to find that there are some Muslims who seem to take care of fellow human beings more than their religion. I wish those people would be respected much more than other religious people doing religious performances such as memorizing the whole scripture and a long period of fast or prayer.

 

[جوري]

I wish those people would be respected much more than other religious people doing religious performances such as memorizing the whole scripture and a long period of fast or prayer.

as stated just because folks don't advertise their good deeds doesn't mean they are not performing them~!

all the best

 

[جوري]

JEWS' SUBWAY HERO A MUSLIM

SAVES 'HANUKKAH' RIDERS FROM THUGS

By JENNIFER FERMINO, ERIKA MARTINEZ and PETER COX
Last Updated: 5:00 AM, December 12, 2007
Posted: 5:00 AM, December 12, 2007

A Brooklyn man whose "Happy Hanukkah" greeting landed him in the hospital said he was saved from a gang of Jew-bashing goons aboard a packed Q train by a total stranger - a modest Muslim from Bangladesh.
Walter Adler was touched that Hassan Askari jumped to his aid while a group of thugs allegedly pummeled and taunted him and his three friends. So Adler has invited his new friend over to celebrate the Festival of Lights.
The two new pals - Adler, 23, with a broken nose and a fat lip, and Askari, 20, with two black eyes - broke bread together and laughed off the bruises the night after the fisticuffs.



"A random Muslim guy jumped in and helped a Jewish guy on Hanukkah - that's a miracle," said Adler, an honors student at Hunter College.
"He's basically a hero. Hassan jumped in to help us."
But Askari, who is studying to be an accountant, shrugged off the praise.
"I just did what I had to do," he recalled. "My parents raised me that way."
Ten people were arrested in the underground attack on Friday night - including two men who have been arrested for race crimes before.
None of the suspects had been charged with a hate crime in the Q train attack as of last night, but the Brooklyn DA's Civil Rights Bureau is handling the case.
It all began when Adler, his girlfriend, Maria Parsheva, and two other pals boarded the subway at Canal Street bound for Brooklyn and someone in another group wished them "Merry Christmas."
Adler and his pal Angelica Krischanovich responded: "Happy Hanukkah."
Apparently, those were fighting words.
"They just came at us so fast. The first thing that came into my mind was, 'Yeah, this is going to be violent,' " said Parsheva, 20.
One of the group immediately hiked up his sleeve to reveal a tattoo of Christ.
"He said, 'Happy Hanukkah, that's when the Jews killed Jesus,' " said Adler.
The group of about 14 men and women then allegedly began taunting Adler and his pals as "dirty Jews" and "Jew *****es."
Amid a huge scrum, Askari jumped in.
"I'm bleeding all over the place, there's lots of people, they're fighting with Hassan still, and I'm like, why isn't anyone else doing anything?" Adler said.
He pulled the emergency brake right before entering the DeKalb Avenue station.
Police came aboard and arrested 10 people, charging six with assault and four with unlawful assembly.
One of those collared straphangers yesterday denied making anti-Semitic taunts and said his mother is Jewish.
Joseph Jirovec, 19 - the son of a city firefighter who is currently serving in Iraq - has pleaded guilty to a 2005 bias crime against blacks.
"We are not racist against Jewish people. That whole hate-crime thing is ridiculous," the Brooklyn man said.
He claims Adler's group was drunk and taunted his group, and one yelled, "We killed Jesus."
Jirovec will soon begin serving six months for his role in the attack against four men in Gerritsen Beach.
"I'm trying to stay out of trouble," he said. "When I get out, I want to go into the military."



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[جوري]

Ex-thug repaid deli owner who helped him

By KIERAN CROWLEY
Last Updated: 11:18 AM, December 3, 2009
Posted: 3:04 AM, December 3, 2009
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A Long Island deli owner who held a robber at gunpoint, then let him go after giving him $40 and a loaf of bread, says he got an anonymous letter from the crook that included a $50 bill and a thank-you for saving him from a life of crime.
The mysterious writer apologized to his would-be victim, Mohammad Sohail, saying, "First of all I would like to say I am sorry at the time I had [no] money no food on the table no job and nothing for my family."
Similar to comments he made on his knees during the incident last May, he said he realized that trying to rob the store with a baseball bat "was wrong but I had [no] choice. I needed to feed my family."

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PAYBACK: Mohammad Sohail, alongside Post clippings that told his story in May, yesterday shows the letter (below) and $50 he got from the would-be robber he sent out of his deli with $40, bread and a blessing.

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The letter claimed, "When you had that gun to my head I was 100% that I was going to die," and said he begged to convert to Islam at that moment only because he feared death.
But the letter-writer said he actually did convert, "decided to become a true Muslim," and turned his life around after Sohail, 47, spared his life.
"Now I have a new child and good job make good money staying out of trouble and taking care of my family. You gave me forty dollars thank you for sparing my life Because of that you change my life."
The letter was signed in type: "Your Muslim Brother."
"That's the same guy I gave $40 to," said Sohail, 62, displaying the typewritten letter at his Shirley Express deli yesterday. There was no return address. It was mailed on Long Island the week before Thanksgiving.
"I'm really thrilled," said Sohail. "I'm very happy for that guy, because he is now doing good for the community.
"He has a job and he is a good person. I really feel great. Thank God he's doing good. He's got a new baby and he's not in jail," said Sohail.
"When you do good things for somebody, it comes back to you. I gave him $40 and he sent me back $50. It was a good investment," Sohail laughed.
During the robbery attempt, the failed thief brandished a baseball bat and demanded cash.
But Sohail pulled out a 9mm rifle and disarmed the man -- who pleaded for his life on his knees before the deli counter, crying, "I'm sorry! I'm sorry!" and tearfully claiming his family had fallen on hard times.
Suffolk County police declined to comment until they had a chance to look at the letter. Detectives, using video surveillance film of the would-be thief, investigated the robbery but were



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[جوري]

so there you go, if you can refine your google search to get through all the orientalist/ evangelist B.S you'd see the folks with most to offer to the oppressed are Muslims and it is good to note that they desire nothing out of it in fact they end up in the hospital for doing what is right..

Allhouma unsar al'Islam walmoslmeen fi mashariq al'ard wa magharibha

ameen

all the best

 

[truth finder]

Thank you very much again for posting more stories. I am glad to know that there are some Muslims who seem to take care of fellow human beings more than just increasing their religious zeal by performing religious rituals. I believe we need to love and help other fellow human beings, whether they have a different belief or even do not have any belief. Christians believe that we are human beings first before we are Christians. We see other people as fellow human beings instead of non-Christians. Actually there are some immature Christians who see the rest of human beings as non-Christians rather than fellow human beings. This is a dangerous mentality, polarizing the world by us-versus-they attitude.

Because readers do not know my identity except for my pen name, it would not be totally inappropriate to mention the following in the current context. As we all know, many Pakistani people have been suffering from severe flood for several months. When I first heard about the flood a few months ago, I felt sorry for those people who have lost loved ones and homes. While praying during that weekend, the Holy Spirit in my heart urged me to help Pakistani people as our fellow human beings. The next day I called a charity organization to donate several hundred dollars only for Pakistani people. To me they are my fellow human beings, no matter what belief they have or even without any belief.

Because some readers may not know who the Holy Spirit is, I just explain about him briefly. The Holy Spirit is one distinct way of God’s revelations to God’s people. In the Old Testament time the Holy Spirit was given to a few special people such as Moses, Elijah and Isaiah. In the new era of grace initiated by Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit can come to anybody whose sinful heart is washed away by the blood of Jesus. When the Holy Spirit comes to live in our heart, our heart would be the holiest place in the world because God lives right here in us.

 

[جوري]

Thank you very much again for posting more stories. I am glad to know that there are some Muslims who seem to take care of fellow human beings more than just increasing their religious zeal by performing religious rituals. I believe we need to love and help other fellow human beings, whether they have a different belief or even do not have any belief. Christians believe that we are human beings first before we are Christians. We see other people as fellow human beings instead of non-Christians. Actually there are some immature Christians who see the rest of human beings as non-Christians rather than fellow human beings. This is a dangerous mentality, polarizing the world by us-versus-they attitude.

it is a duty upon all Muslims to and let me quote the Noble Quran:

3:110--You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in God . If only the People of the Scripture had believed, it would have been better for them ...

so in fact those who don't enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong aren't acting within the Islamic principles. Islam is a total way of life, prayer, fast and fulfilling justice is simply the Muslim way of life!

Because readers do not know my identity except for my pen name, it would not be totally inappropriate to mention the following in the current context. As we all know, many Pakistani people have been suffering from severe flood for several months. When I first heard about the flood a few months ago, I felt sorry for those people who have lost loved ones and homes. While praying during that weekend, the Holy Spirit in my heart urged me to help Pakistani people as our fellow human beings. The next day I called a charity organization to donate several hundred dollars only for Pakistani people. To me they are my fellow human beings, no matter what belief they have or even without any belief.

It is too bad that you feel so compelled to display your charitable deeds, I feel sorry for you indeed to want your validation from fellow human beings, almost as if your god won't recognize you for them.. Again I quote the noble Quran:

2:271 - If ye disclose (acts of) charity, even so it is well, but if ye conceal them, and make them reach those (really) in need, that is best for you: It will remove from you some of your (stains of) evil. And God is well acquainted with what ye do.

Because some readers may not know who the Holy Spirit is, I just explain about him briefly. The Holy Spirit is one distinct way of God’s revelations to God’s people. In the Old Testament time the Holy Spirit was given to a few special people such as Moses, Elijah and Isaiah. In the new era of grace initiated by Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit can come to anybody whose sinful heart is washed away by the blood of Jesus. When the Holy Spirit comes to live in our heart, our heart would be the holiest place in the world because God lives right here in us.

That is the christian definition of the holy spirit -- the christian understanding and definition of this middle eastern religion is quite farcical for the rest of us.. further I'd truly recommend if you hear voices telling you to behave a certain way that you seek medical attention!

all the best

 

[truth finder]

It is too bad that you feel so compelled to display your charitable deeds, I feel sorry for you indeed to want your validation from fellow human beings, almost as if your god won't recognize you for them..

I disagree with you. Even my wife does not know what I did. You have not met me before and do not know who I am, even my name. I mentioned it in order to show that many (if not all) Christians including myself care about Muslims as fellow human beings, not by word, but by action. That is all I meant.