Osama Bin Laden has been killed

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I don't know what you think you heard, but there was no such offer of surrender in 1943


I heard it on a show called secret something or other of world war two on history international. I dont remember that much but it was something about after Italy surrender the germany's armies still in the field offered a surrender if the allies would not let the russians advance. With the 45 refusal I was just showing he still did not want to offer the germans surrender.

Author unknown" on a website of a professional conspiracy theorist


I did not look at it, it was just the first site on the list. I have seen many refrences to the camps and a few times on the history channel lol. However I dont know who you consider a good source of informantion, I dont know if this is any better. http://www.truthinourtime.com/2011/03/eisenhowers-death-camps.html


If you actually read that article you will see nothing was 'faked', it was all a complete screw-up


Right again I just added the article I did not think it would be exactly what I was saying jsut that they changed the story.

With all due respect, you really do need to do at least minimal research before presenting such complete nonsense as fact. It does make you rather hard to take seriously on anything else, including matters rather more on topic!

In the origional post to the other guy I ment that he sent troops to Vietnam. The troops were already there, like the offical story with Osama I believe was at one point he was pissed that we still had troops in saudi arabia. Either way that would be considered imperialism or whatever word you prefer by todays standards. What I was trying to get across was that he was part of the military industrial complex not controlled by it. I dont think we should take anything in that speech seriously. It would be like showing a video of bush saying how the world needs peace and freedom and warning us about the horrors of a endless war.

As the lady said, give them up. They'll kill you.


lol
 
haha now al-Qaeda on some obscure jihadist forum confirms that OBL has been killed? What is this, so that ppl can now actually believe Al qaida? lol

On one hand al-qaeda is portrayed as a terrorist organization which spews lies and now the media wants us to believe Al qaeda's confirmation of OBLs death?

Look, we have:
1. The Afghan Taliban saying how the"martyrdom of Sheikh Osama bin Laden will give a new impetus to the current jihad against the invaders in this critical phase of jihad" (source)
2, The wife of Bin Laden claiming she lived in Abbottabad with him for the last 5 years and that he was killed (source)
3. The Pakistani government accepting he lived there and was killed
4. The Al-Qaeda statement I already linked too actually claims as much (source)

I simply do not find the alternative explanations very appealing. Unless you contend that, say, the Afghan Taliban are also in on it?

lol... this world is full of .... idiots.

Why thank you ;).
 
Statement of Leadership Council of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan regarding Martyrdom of Great Martyr Sheikh Osama bin Laden
Jamadi-ul-Thani 02, 1432 A.H, Friday, May 06, 2011
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In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful

"Among the believers, there are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah. Some fulfilled their vow by death and some are still awaiting and they have not changed in the least".
(The Holy Quran, Surah 33. "The Clans", verse 23)
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The Caller to Islamic Jihad against the invading infidels, Sheikh Osama bin Laden, embraced martyrdom as per the Will of the Almighty Allah during an abrupt attack by the American invading soldiers. (We are creation of Allah and return to Him.)

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan extends its deep condolence to the family of the martyr, to his followers and to fighter Mujahideen of the way of Truth and to the Islamic Ummah on this occasion of the great tragedy. We pray to the Almighty Allah to accept, in His Sight, the sacrifice of the martyr. May, the Almighty Allah, salvage the Islamic Ummah from the current situation of crisis due to the impact of the blessing of the sacred Jihad and martyrdom of the martyr.

The martyr took part in the Jihad against the Soviet invasion with great honesty and bravery shoulder to shoulder with the Afghans. He offered such sacrifices in this way that the history of the Islamic Ummah will for ever remain proud of. Sheikh Osama bin Laden was the ardent advocate of the legitimate cause of the first Qibla of the Muslims, the Aqsa Mosque and the occupied Palestine . He was an indefatigable fighter against the Christian and Jewish aggressions in the Islamic World and was not sparing any effort in this cause. The life of this Mujahid, who felt the antagonism against Islam, was full of fatigues, sacrifices and hardships. The history of Islam will always keep their memory alive.

The way of Jihad and the path of defense of Islam is a way fraught with sacrifices and martyrdoms. Like any other follower of this way, Sheikh Osama had been aspiring to attain martyrdom in the cause of the Almighty Allah. He reached his ambition with bravery, dedication and commitment in the last moments of his life.

If the invading Americans and their Allies wallow in this optimism that the morale and ranks of Mujahideen will weaken in Afghanistan and other occupied Islamic countries following the martyrdom of Sheikh Osama bin Laden, it will only show their lack of insight. The sapling of Jihad has always grown, spruced and reached fructification through irrigation by pure blood. The martyrdom of a martyr leads to hundreds more to head to the field of martyrdom and sacrifice.

The current Jihadic movement of Afghanistan sprouted from among the masses and is representative of the aspirations of this proud people. In this land of the braves, a strike by colonialism breeds sympathy and produces (an urge) to strike back. If the Mujahid people were prone to submit to force and tyranny, then is there any gimmick both in terms of military muscles showdown and other devilish conspiracies that has been left by the Americans during the last decade? But the ground realities have it that the use of force brings in opposite consequences here. This popular movement can be bracketed with a spring which, when you pressurize, bounces back with the same intensity.

The Islamic Emirate believes, the martyrdom of Sheikh Osama bin Laden will give a new impetus to the current Jihad against the invaders in this critical phase of Jihad. The tides of Jihad will gain strength and width. The forthcoming time will prove this both for the friends and the foes, if God willing.

The Leadership Council of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2011/05/06/14250.shtml
 


The fatwah was to do unto them as they do unto others. What is more disturbing is foreigners meddling in other peoples affairs and not expecting a reaction.

The manner in which he did it was justified due to the amount of oppression and the imbalance of power on the side of the oppressed vs oppressor.

He sacrificed comforts of this life, for the rewards of the hereafter. Thats someones Hero, your terrorist!

You will never understand until you either become Muslim, or experience Judgement Day!

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What do you mean by ‘the manner’?

9/11 was justified?
 
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this thread is now closed for a massive clean up. all posts that are either off-topic, insulting, attacks against any member or a reply to such are being deleted.

Is it asking too much for everybody to stay civil and on topic?

Thread is now reopened. However I may have missed some posts that still need deleting and may have deleted some that should have been kept. I will go back and relook but the thread is open again.



I think you should close this thread now. It has run its course. For all we knew, we could condemning an innocent man or praising a human being that has ordered and organised a hideous crime. We are going round in circle and has resolved nothing.

I doubt people can stay civil.
 
Osama Bin Laden: Pentagon releases home videos:



Computer Generated Imagery (CGI)
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In one video, Bin Laden is seen watching television


Osama watching TV
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This is osama watching TV
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Another picture of osama watching TV
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n another of the videos, Bin Laden is shown watching a programme about himself on Arabic language television.

He is shown sitting on the floor wrapped in what looks like a blanket or a coat, holding a remote control.

As he watches TV he strokes his beard, which appears much greyer than it does in the propaganda video.

Thats what it is, its all propaganda


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13323060
 
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Osama Bin Laden: Pentagon releases home videos

I find this comical...

But the clips' release is part of the ongoing effort by the US administration to convince doubters that Osama Bin Laden was killed in last Monday's raid, says our correspondent.

How are these clips going to clear people's doubts? Release the picture. If there is a group called Al Qaeda, his death and the protests celebrating his death will have already angered the militants. What worse will happen if the picture are released?
 
Yeah just seen the videos. Clearly fake

I dont believe a word those swines tell us
 
actually, after the raid, Cartman was overheard saying, "oh my gosh, they killed Kenny!"

looks like another case of mistaken identity!
 
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Osama Bin Laden: Pentagon releases home videos

I find this comical...



How are these clips going to clear people's doubts? Release the picture. If there is a group called Al Qaeda, his death and the protests celebrating his death will have already angered the militants. What worse will happen if the picture are released?


The first video has no audio....do you know what that means??

It means that they quickly created a CGI and couldn't link the audio because they need more time to make the audio sound real, scary and relevant......

text to speech software + CGI = you can fool anyone

The second video is just not him...its another dude
 
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Real osama with thin eyebrows
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New still picture of osama with thicker eyebrows released
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thin eyebrows vs thick eyebrows and droopy eyes


maybe he used to pluck his eyebrows?

Gotta keep believing
 
The past couple of posts gave me the impetus to do a quick Google search for images of bin Laden. It made me realize I do not know what the real bin Laden looks like or did look like.

Would the real Bin Laden please stand up and be identified.
 
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Anybody can do anything

I remember that video. The beginning does not sound like Arabic at all LOL. He looks different here too. Must be a fake. Also, did the US government release this video footage?

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I have no idea why would someone record a video of themselves watching themselves on TV...

Woodrow said:
The past couple of posts gave me the impetus to do a quick Google search for images of bin Laden. It made me realize I do not know what the real bin Laden looks like or did look like.

I just think this is getting more and more comical. I highly doubt these videos are actually real.

]Would the real Bin Laden please stand up and be identified.

*Stands up" :X
 
Whether it's him or not; why would they release these clips? People want the assassination video not some home movies. It just seems such a random thing to release.
 
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Even a blind man would be able to tell those video's are fake lol

You gotta be a dumb imbecile fool of a person to believe they are real
 
That voice in that last youtube video is clearly not Osama' The language isnt Arabic and its not his voice either
 
Even a blind man would be able to tell those video's are fake lol

You gotta be a dumb imbecile fool of a person to believe they are real

So true...subhanaAllah how can anyone believe that!

The shaykh mashaAllah was blessed with Good Looks! Theres just no evil on his face.=)
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Cant say that about his opponents who are so daym ugleh.
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That voice in that last youtube video is clearly not Osama' The language isnt Arabic and its not his voice either

I think that's the point! It's a spoof, just to show what can be done.
 
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