jedi that is a gross and ignorant misinterpration of the American soldiers. Just like it is a gross and ignorant misinterpretaion to a decent amount of people in America that any muslim is a terrorist/radical. This is the type of ignorant and baseless logic the world doesn't need. I am as much a hindu or a muslim or a christian so I am not biased to anyone or anything but the fact is every group of people will have a certain minority who think that way including in the military but I promise you the majority of the military and the civilian population doesn't think this way. Look at how much freedom an average muslim has in America post 9/11. If you saw muslims being persecuted and being slaughtered then you have a point. But the fact of the matter is that muslims in America coexist with the white american population as well as any other religious sect would.
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Any muslim who believes in the War on terror needs to wake up. They have given us these labels of 'radical', 'extremist', 'moderate', 'liberal' etc to try create disunity between the muslim ummah, try to appease the muslim western puppets and justify these illegal wars but reality is they could care less whether you are an 'extremist' or 'moderate' muslim as long as you are a muslim you are the enemy.
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You cannot deny that there are people within America that believe it is acceptable to kill thousands of civilians in order to protect their own people and do view Islam as the enemy. The article does contain an element of truth that there are people that view Islam as the enemy. These people also tend to view conflicts as good vs evil. Some of these people can be referred to as neo-conservatives.
Yes, there are some Muslims that generalise and believe it is acceptable to kill thousands of civilians for their own motives. However, these wars are making things worse.
i find it hard to believe there is any defense of america in this thread.
for once its not some persons opinion that can be brushed aside or refuted or argued to make yourselves feel better.
its an official document that has only been put out of practice because its been made public.
there is no justification for planned genocide.. yes that what it says.
seriously its like allowing the nazis because you were german.
seriously.
i suppose that its all just a fluke of circumstance that muslims feel persecuted,
the worst thing is there is no single government that can help muslims..or is in a position to help.
that is the state of islam.
i guess the angrier you get the more likely you are to play into there hands.
the comparison with the nazis is not that accurate, i would compare islam to the black community on america.
there are pictures of lynchings on the web for those not familiar with black history.
they almost got free before being ghetto'd.
its about how you fight for freedom and how you keep hold of your values.
for once its not some persons opinion that can be brushed aside or refuted or argued to make yourselves feel better.
its an official document that has only been put out of practice because its been made public.
there is no justification for planned genocide.. yes that what it says.
seriously its like allowing the nazis because you were german.
seriously.
i suppose that its all just a fluke of circumstance that muslims feel persecuted,
the worst thing is there is no single government that can help muslims..or is in a position to help.
that is the state of islam.
i guess the angrier you get the more likely you are to play into there hands.
the comparison with the nazis is not that accurate, i would compare islam to the black community on america.
there are pictures of lynchings on the web for those not familiar with black history.
they almost got free before being ghetto'd.
its about how you fight for freedom and how you keep hold of your values.
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I appreciate the point that you are trying to put across here but this is not exactly true. Muslims in America don't really have as much freedom as you would like to think. Many American Muslims are profiled and watched by federal authorities simply because they are Muslim. Women who wear the hijab fear discrimination in employment and often times I have been met with awful words from some in the "white American population" simply because of my faith and the ignorance about it. And there are Muslims who are being wrongfully imprisoned in federal jails for speaking out against the hypocrisy. That is scary in a land where we all supposedly have "freedom of speech and religion".
I appreciate the understanding that you are trying to put across but I think you overstepped just a little bit as you don't really know what it's like to be a Muslim in America. No, we're not being slaughtered over here yet, but we are being persecuted in more ways than one and continuously marginalized in this society. Some American communities are better than others but it upsets me that if I ever get married and have children in this country I will have to teach my children that life will be a little bit more difficult for them than for other people because of this misguided political rhetoric against Islam. A majority of the civilian population probably does have incorrect views about Islam. I certainly did before I became a Muslim and much of it I learned in the public school system.
The sad part is that the voices of those who hate Islam and those who want to see most of American Muslims dead or locked away in some type of a concentration camp are a lot louder than the voices in America who want to preach coexistence and tolerance of other people. We are definitely marginalized. It's a cycle that repeats.
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Kinda nonsense about what you are saying, you don't see it because you aren't muslim or don't have a grasp on whats going on in this world. Muslims face massive discimination, get put in jails without evidence, get killed, watched by the feds and many other things by the ''white American folk''. And what about the 1,6 million iraqis killed? And almost a million of palestinians and afghans? Its clear: They have launched a war on islam, by creating false flag attacks from minor to major ones and they're still busy with it. They also created false flag attacks to try or launch other wars search: Operation northwoods, ''the tonkin incident''.
Don't put up a excuse that in war innocents will die, 1,6 million in iraq is more than just some killed innocents. Its pure genocide. Some american soldiers might be nice and friendly but the fact is that they all are fighting a war on us, and that they are invading other countries to spread their system. Everyone who does stand against their system is a terrorist and must be punished, thats their mentality. Everyone who doesn't accept western culture is a weirdo. And thats MASSIVE discrimination.
''You don't eat like we eat, you're weird''
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It is discrimination and muslims in the west are marginalized and persecuted. There is no doubt about that. It is primarily the neo-conservatives and christian right acting on tribalism and banding together as "Us" to turn on "Them". Liberals therefore tend to defend the muslims, which sets up a very ironic and strange dynamic. There are liberal muslims (I was surprised to discover a muslim stripper) but in general muslims are conservatives and more in common with the far right conservative christians that hate them than the liberals who defend them.
muslim stripper lol thats hilarious.
somebody should buy her out immediately.
im kidding but only just.
the things people have to do to stay alive.
instantly thought of "the wrestler" ...well whatever.
it is true though that the worst of things we say about the jews and christians are mirrored by the other side.
someday everybody will become the bigger man.
well actually im not sure it will ever happen but you can always try.
somebody should buy her out immediately.
im kidding but only just.
the things people have to do to stay alive.
instantly thought of "the wrestler" ...well whatever.
it is true though that the worst of things we say about the jews and christians are mirrored by the other side.
someday everybody will become the bigger man.
well actually im not sure it will ever happen but you can always try.
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Yup, and believe it or not she told me she has 2 friends, who are also strippers and also muslim. So apparently there a few of them running around out there.
Which extremists are you talking about?
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pygo, i appreciate the fact that she told u she was Muslim, but without veering too much off topic i'd like to clarify a misconception,
a Muslim is one who Submits To God, that is the meaning of the word Muslim,
and i'm sure you know that stripping is Forbidden in Islam and is no small transgression.
So as long as she knowingly strips, and makes no attempt to submit to God, she is NOT a Muslim,
she is either a Munafiq or a Kafir. stripping is not an addiction which one has to fight.
back to topic, it has become clear to me that they have ambiguously declared a war on Islam, and are only using rhetoric to keep the masses asleep until they have weakened or done away with the strongest opposition to their schemes.
they don't want the whole Muslim nation waking up in one go, and they also don't want the rest of the world to know that they fear Islam and are the aggressors themselves, which would certainly have people researching and coming to the conclusion that they are wrong and Islam is right.
but regardless of their evil plots, Allah will fulfill His light, however much they may hate it.
It all goes back to 9/11, doesn't it? What proof is there that Muslims caused 3,000 American deaths with the explosive collapse of 3 NYC skyscrappers? How did they get a super high technology explosive, nanothermite, and its signature residue, iron-rich microspherules, to show up in the WTC dust in enough quantity to suggest tons of nanothermite were used to bring the Twin Towers down? How did they implosively bring down WTC7, a 47-story building not hit by a plane?
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they live in a "brave new world" brother, they'll pretend to be passionate about an issue just to argue a point, but will totally ignore the clear proof that none in government can or will explain, they'll just use terms like "conspiracy theorist" despite the overwhelming evidence they refuse to refute (because they can't), yet themselves peddle ridiculous conspiracy theories when a random cia/mossad style bombing occurs in syria or iran.
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the poster was possibly referring to those few who are EXTREMELY angry at being treated like trash,
or maybe the EXTREMELY GOOD few people who stand for the truth despite the blame of the blamers.
coz to the u.s government, it seems a "moderate" "mozlem" is one who walks around half naked, is possibly a sodomite or a transvestite, doesn't believe in the Rule of God, mourns the death of illegally invading armies of Muslim lands, or at least doesn't have a problem with their lands being illegally invaded and their women dishonoured,
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Let's not exaggerate, the figures are more like 100,000+. If that's extermination then it looks like we are doing a very hasty job!
mg:Yeah what about the idiots in USA who want to impose your Muslim Shariah laws in my country? What about Europe and Australia? I guess it hurts when your people are guilty of the same thing. Heard of that Choudrey idiot?
Pretty much this. The average Muslim in USA won't have their hands cut off, the choice to choose their own destiny and be integrated into a society where everyone understands each other.
Oh and I am surprised with the amount of people here claiming 9/11 to be fake. You are no different to the Neo Nazis claiming the mass murders in WW2 to be fake.
But if it helps taking your frustration on the USA then well I understand.
Who said it was fake? I only ask you to explain how Muslims caused 1) the presence of nanothermite and iron microspherules in WTC dust, 2) implosive collapse at free-fall acceleration of WTC7.
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Let's not exaggerate, the figures are more like 100,000+. If that's extermination then it looks like we are doing a very hasty job!
Yeah what about the idiots in USA who want to impose your Muslim Shariah laws in my country? What about Europe and Australia? I guess it hurts when your people are guilty of the same thing. Heard of that Choudrey idiot?
Pretty much this. The average Muslim in USA won't have their hands cut off, the choice to choose their own destiny and be integrated into a society where everyone understands each other.
Oh and I am surprised with the amount of people here claiming 9/11 to be fake. You are no different to the Neo Nazis claiming the mass murders in WW2 to be fake.
But if it helps taking your frustration on the USA then well I understand.
No, 1,6 million(now even more + the 500,000 killed in the first gulf war, mostly children) read it up. And even it were 100,000 then its still too many and still genocide, but its much more. And USA is still not your country, it is illegaly occupied by you Europeans a few centuries ago. Yes, but don't claim your government is full of ''muslims'' like many American people do, because your government create laws against muslims and islam. Muslims want shariah law yes, and its about time, we don't want your ''democracy'' and tyranny. We want REAL justice. Unlike your country when people only get put in prisons, living with the bad guys and they don't change, that isn't justice. There isn't shariah law in your puppet muslim countries of today, Afghans wanted to impose shariah law and they got bombed by you americans and allies.
Real justice is when someone commits a crime, he won't do it anymore afterwards.
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You mentioned the figures, I'm interested in where you got them.
What our boys are doing does not fit the criteria of genocide.
It belongs to law abiding citizens.
Hey, you Muslims want to implement the Shariah all over the world.
Well we may as well abolish the justice system. ;D
Yeah it's called a life time sentence.