Breaking news: Israel plans to invade gaza officialy now

[GuestFellow]

lol what are you guys arguing about now? You all remind me of little budgies when you argue with each other LOL AHAHAHAHA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDqDRZJ-7EI&feature=related

Anyway, I think Israel will continue to do whatever it wants. Gaza at this rate will be swallowed up by greedy Israel. :/ I heard the Egyptian and Qatar government played a role in the ceasefire.

 

[جوري]

Gaza at this rate will be swallowed up by greedy Israel.

It won't happen unless we all adopt the defeatist/Zionist mentality of the likes of that roasted kid!

 

[Endymion]

If I were to answer your queries the way you do I would simply say:


You and your love affair with conspiracy theories. Has the number of drone attacks increased since the Malala incident?? Has the Pakistani government exploited the anti-Taliban sentiment which aroused after this incident and launched a military operation?? Answers to those are NO! and NO! respectively. Yet, what do you care.


nothing really! Just hate when people bring Malala into every single argument.

Its actually not her love with conspiracy theories but she is lucky enough to not have potatoes installed instead of eyes so she can see and difference between right and wrong using her mind.

And to reply to your lame argument you keep throwing at us,its was not our "prediction" that the plan behind all that is to increase drone attacks and to start an operation in waziristan once again,but it was said by famous defense analysts and senior journalists.And what you cant see and what we can see living in this country is its only a group of paid people including media who are crying over Malala and everyone else is calling it a conspiracy and plan to increase drones and this is increasing offense and hatred in Pakistan against America,Government of Pakistan and Pakistan Army and this made them stop it for a while.
And why we compare Malala's case to every other case is not a question anymore,why dont we?When we can see the American Government and their Military officials can feel sorry for a little girl,phoned her,Obama felt sorry for her,famous politicians wrote columns for her,British Prime minister is running a campaign in her name and these are the same people who have no words of sorry and no sadness over the innocent killings of Dama dola,Bajorr and killings of Salala check post and many others.The Education lover British Prime Minister can follow a whole campaign in the name of a girl whose achievement is just nothing but said nothing while people were disrespecting the first ever Teacher of humanity and first ever supporter of women Education so why not we ask?

 

[Endymion]

And by comments like " people crying over Malala's case" i always meant National and International media and people involved in conspiracies like that not the respectable members specially like Sister Zaria,no matter we disagree on issues like that but still its a difference of opinion and understanding it doesn't mean i am calling out my respectable siblings in Islam.Thought i mistakenly made some comments previously that gave a wrong impact of me think bad about them Astaghfirullah.Apologize for any misunderstanding.

 

[جوري]

[h=2]British neocon blog exposed as Israeli mouthpiece[/h]
Laura Stuart http://www.islamicboard.com/politic...raeli-mouthpiece?tmpl=component&print=1&page=

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Harry’s Place has been exposed as a peddlar of lies and a censor of free speech. But that is not all. An article in the Washington Post asks whether Hamas is winning the Twitter war. It tells us that the Israeli propagandists are in fact losing the media war. I believe every right-minded individual can discern the truth when it is allowed to reach their eyes and ears. The mainstream media no longer control the hearts and minds of people. Israel, the Israeli army and the various Zionist outlets are being exposed as assassins and apologists for murder.
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In the past few days the UK-based neo-conservative blog Harry’s Place has exposed itself as an outright propaganda outlet of the Israeli armed forces.
For months I have been posting comments on the blog, which in 2006 won the annual Islamophobia award given by the Islamic Human Rights Commission. Although my comments have been generally tolerated, I receive constant verbal abuse for my beliefs as a Muslim from commentators on the blog. Nonetheless, I have continued to comment, in the hope that I might be able to put across just a few points amid the constant tide of Islamophobia. Misguidedly, I thought I might be able to succeed in persuading a few commentators to view Muslims as human beings and not savages, as Harry’s Place makes them out to be.

However, on the 14 November, I realized that there was no hope of any change in the minds of those who post on Harry’s Place and that, in reality, the blog is heavily moderated as a propaganda outlet for Israel. It would seem that the last thing the blog owners want is for anyone reading their blog to feel that Muslims, especially Palestinians, are equal members of the human race. In other words, Harry’s Place is riddled with Zionist supremacism.

Last week, Israel escalated its ongoing war of terror and attrition on Gaza. For the first time, the Israeli army announced a military operation on social media. The so-called “Operation Pillar of Cloud” had begun. A picture of Ahmad Jabari, with the word “ELIMINATED” stamped across it, informed the world of the successful Israeli “extra-judicial assassination” of the leader of Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas. This is the first time the Israelis have used social media to announce a military operation.

The Israelis also released a video of Ahmad Jabari being assassinated. They called it a surgical strike and appeared to be very proud of their work. But simultaneously Gazans started to send out tweets with links to videos and photographs of wounded civilians arriving at Al-Shifaa hospital.

I posted on Harry’s Place the video of the “surgical strike” on Ahmad Jabari and another video of a four-year-old little girl from the Arafat family who had been killed, her body charred and torn by the impact of the Israeli missile that killed her. I wanted those contributing to the blog to see that the attacks on Gaza are not surgical and that the majority of those killed are not resistance fighters but civilians, including children.

Although my postings never got through moderation, the Israeli army video was posted as a new thread with the title “The pinpoint strike on Ahmad Jabari – head of Hamas military wing” by Alan A. Suddenly, all my posts, which included pictures of the injured and dead children, their names and ages – the human attributes that are often denied Israel’s victims – disappeared from the moderation queue. Harry’s Place thus transformed itself from a blog where discussions took place (albeit very one sided ones) to a propaganda outlet for Israel.

One of my comments merely asked parents to imagine how it must feel to put their children to bed in Gaza knowing they have absolutely no way of protecting them from harm – no shelters and nothing to stop the missiles from falling through the ceiling and killing the children in their beds – and children so traumatized that they wet their beds at the sounds of the constant flying of drones, F-16s and shells. But my comment never appeared. Clearly, theHarry’s Place moderators do not want their readers to equate their feelings of protectiveness towards their own children with those of “terrorists” in Gaza. Being able to see and imagine the feeling of the “other” is not a Zionist trait.


Earlier this week I had pointed out to contributors to Harry’s Place that they were publishing outright lies, that the timeline of the recent escalation in violence was not, as they falsely claimed, a retaliation by Israel for Gazan rockets, and that during an Israeli army incursion into Gaza Israeli soldiers had shot and killed a 13-year-old boy who was playing football. Killing Ahmad Abu Daqqa brought to an end what had been a two-week period of calm, but that is obviously not what Israel and its propaganda agents want the world to believe. (Read here about the killing of a boy who lived for half of his life under siege but dreamed of being a footballer.)

A BBC journalist in Gaza, Jihad Misharawi, also lost two children in the “surgical” Israeli strike. One, Omar, aged 11 months, died of severe burns, and his elder brother Ali, aged four years, was critically injured. But true to its history of pro-Israeli reporting, the BBC took its time to report this, leaving it to other media, such as the Telegraph, to run the story first. Instead, the BBC chose to lead with the report that three Israelis had been killed in retaliatory rocket fire from Gaza, downgrading the news of dead Palestinian children, pregnant women and other civilians.

Depressing and tragic as all this killing is, I am somewhat uplifted that Harry’s Place has shown itself to be a blog of lies and selective propaganda – totally the opposite to what its banner claims: “Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don’t want to hear”.

Harry’s Place has been exposed as a peddlar of lies and a censor of free speech. But that is not all. An article in the Washington Post asks whether Hamas is winning the Twitter war. It tells us that the Israeli propagandists are in fact losing the media war. I believe every right-minded individual can discern the truth when it is allowed to reach their eyes and ears. The mainstream media no longer control the hearts and minds of people. Israel, the Israeli army and the various Zionist outlets are being exposed as assassins and apologists for murder.

The people of Gaza will continue to resist the occupation, not only by rocket fire but in the spirit shown in the words of the parents of the martyred Ahmad Abu Daqqa. “They know who are the strangers here and they will leave one day.” They will also resist through the most bountiful weapon available to them: the womb of the Palestinian mother.

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we've a few of those on this forum as well don't we?

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Never claim to be an expert but yes,im not a media guided missile.

Everybody gets their information from the media unless you are claiming you are being guided by God HimSelf Who apparently tells you what is a fact and what is a conspiracy with respect to world affairs. If that is not the case and I'm sure that is not the case pls stop with the nonsense of who gets their information from where...

 

[Roasted Cashew]

I challenge you to prove the facts to me and prove what I say conspiracy and what you drivel out as logic!

Already proven to you. I's just that your conspiracy driven mindset will not accept the truth. I wish you all the best in your hateful conspiracy driven world where everybody is a demon out to get you. My psychiatry cycles have not begun...otherwise I would have suggested a med or two for your paranoid mind.

Your very statements on this thread have already been debunked by Haretz who claimed Hamas won

You clearly know I meant a military victory. More than a 100 Palestinians dead...infrastructure destroyed... Hooray! Victory! What has changed? Has Hamas got back any piece of land by firing rockets into Israel?? When they have, then maybe you can come tell me they were victorious. But whatever makes you happy...:heated:

 

[Roasted Cashew]

be grateful I haven't taken my gloves off as far as you're concerned

Ooooo, I am so scared!!!;D GOD HELP ME!!!!

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Its actually not her love with conspiracy theories but she is lucky enough to not have potatoes installed instead of eyes so she can see and difference between right and wrong using her mind.

IT IS her love with conspiracy theories. No matter how you spin it. Her paranoid mind can't comprehend anything else.

The thing is there is no basis for a Malala conspiracy theory as you guys wish there was. In the early stages conspirators yelled that this is a pretext to launch an operation and when the Pakistani government denied any such intention, they were caught with their pants down lying. It's just that you simply can't comprehend that there are bearded and turbaned Muslims who can do evil things. You are blinded by the sheer hatred for the other side, you can't see the evil in front of you. Look dear, the Pakistani Taliban are the scum of the earth and it's about time you change your narrative.

The problem with you and the likes of you is that you hated it when the rest of the world exploited this heinous crime of the Taliban for their own agendas. Only if you hated the original crime as much as her exploitation.

 

[جوري]

Already proven to you. I's just that your conspiracy driven mindset will not accept the truth. I wish you all the best in your hateful conspiracy driven world where everybody is a demon out to get you. My psychiatry cycles have not begun...otherwise I would have suggested a med or two for your paranoid mind.

Quite the opposite. if you're going to bet on kaffirs, at least do us all the favor of professing that you're one! There's nothing worse than a muslim impersonator!
Do get back to me when you're done with your psych. Rota. we all have a few theories on you too but I don't think any medications would help in your case, usually malingerers and those with other fictitious disorders are merely doing it for attention or some financial gain. I do often wonder who is funding your BS.
I haven't had problems with the majority of people here and even those of your inclinations don't occupy more of my time than the two minutes it takes me to reply. That's how empty your rhetoric!

You clearly know I meant a military victory. More than a 100 Palestinians dead...infrastructure destroyed... Hooray! Victory! What has changed? Has Hamas got back any piece of land by firing rockets into Israel?? When they have, then maybe you can come tell me they were victorious. But whatever makes you happy...

your meanings always change per evolution of the thread. I have quoted your comment for all to see, and I think any keen discerning mind can see through the transparency of your charade.
This time I wasn't quoting my 'conspiracies' you've jewish papers telling you how it is. It might also interest you to read some Islamic history (but why bother right it is just a relic for the likes of you) the battle of Badr wouldn't have been considered a victory per your above standards either. Allah swt saw it differently. So maybe if you get a little bit more roasted perhaps then your cognitive dissonance would loosen a smidgen or two!
also as I told you before try some basic reading before writing & make it a habit. It really might help you choreograph a better victory dance!

best,

 

[Roasted Cashew]

at least do us all the favor of being one, there's nothing worse THAN A muslim impersonator!

You might wanna retake your Shahada. Wrongly accusing a fellow Muslim as being one of the Kaffirs, makes the accuser one of them as well.

your meanings always change per evolution of the thread. I have quoted your comment for all to see

No, it does not. In fact, this is exactly how your replies evolve. Pls do quote them! Let everyone see.

 

[جوري]

You might wanna retake your Shahada. Wrongly accusing a fellow Muslim as being one of the Kaffirs, makes the accuser one of them as well.

you're no fellow of mine- some folks don't have to stand on a pulpit to declare their kuffr, What they spew of their lips is heinous and what the hearts hide is even worse. I believe 99% of your posts are exemplary of your liege!
[FONT=Verdana,arial]3:118 O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.

No, it does not. In fact, this is exactly how your replies evolve. Pls do quote them! Let everyone see.

i just did:
http://www.islamicboard.com/world-a...invade-gaza-officialy-now-19.html#post1553919

now you do me a favor too and show my conspiracies and your facts. I'll wait until you fart them out as usual!

best,[/FONT]

 

[Roasted Cashew]

you're no fellow of mine- some folks don't have to stand on a pulpit to declare their kuffr,

It's amazing how you simply can't take anything that doesn't suit your paranoid narrative of world affairs and since you can't really come back at me, you simply accuse me of Kufr? What a pity.

i just did:

Oh, okay! And there you go... I clearly said Primitive rockets vs IDF!! What does that imply to you if not military strength? Does that imply to you that I was talking about a moral victory?? GOD! You yell at me and tell me to read. How about you read first??

 

[جوري]

It's amazing how you simply can't take anything that doesn't suit your paranoid narrative of world affairs and since you can't really come back at me, you simply accuse me of Kufr? What a pity.

are you going to put your money where your mouth is, or you gonna descend down to word PLAY? I believe i told you before in so many words what you think, feel or believe is inconsequential, but if you've facts about me then prove them. it isn't enough for you to assert. your words haven't much weightiness!

Oh, okay! And there you go... I clearly said Primitive rockets vs IDF?? What does that imply to you if not military strength? Does that imply to you that I was talking about a moral victory?? GOD! You yell at me and tell me to read. How about you read first??

guess what their rockets weren't primitive. didn't i link you to three separate papers? yeah i am telling you to read, it is more important to write seasoned replies than to save face, at least make yourself a somewhat worthy contender if not for the sake of us at least so folks won't laugh at you wherever you go. i mean you love mainstream media so much then at least do us the favor of reading that which you defend in vice oNLY!1

BEST,

 

[Roasted Cashew]

guess what their rockets weren't primitive

They ARE! In front of guided predator drones and missiles fired by F-16's...They are!

are you going to put your money where your mouth is, or you gonna descend down to word PLAY?

I have already stated that your Malala conspiracy theory is baseless and told you how so. If you have "facts" that say otherwise, pls state them.

so folks won't laugh at you

Folks might laugh at you for blatantly lying and straying the conversation to mask your lies.

 

[جوري]

They ARE! In front of guided predator drones and missiles fired by F-16's...They are!

their rockets reached jerusalem and tel aviv . .. so much for the iron dome.. reminds me so much of their 500 mil dollar bar lev line too but hey you're always rooting for the devil so what would you know.

I have already stated that your Malala conspiracy theory is baseless and told you how so. If you have "facts" that say otherwise, pls state them.

again, your assertions are meaningless, you said our 'conspiracy theory' is baseless, what conspiracy is that prAY do tell

Folks might laugh at you for blatantly lying and straying the conversation to mask your lies.

what lies are tHOSE? i might just enjoy those laughs too

 

[Aprender]

accusing a fellow Muslim

I'm curious about something with you. And you don't have to answer me if you don't want to. These are just my observations and only Allah knows what is truly in your heart. But why do you always try to bring other Muslims down? Many of the posts I've read by you on this forum are like that. Along the lines of; We Muslims are too stupid and dumb. We Muslims are weak. We Muslims will always be defeated. We Muslims will not get a Caliphate for at least another "100 years" as you stated in another thread. In some instances, that's probably very true from what I know of the Muslim community in my short time as a revert, but I rarely ever see you offer any hope or support for your fellow brothers and sisters. You always seem to tear them down in the posts that I've read of yours on this forum. Or talk about everything that we're doing wrong but rarely about what we're doing right.

Why do you do that?

Again, you don't have to answer and I'm probably wrong because I'm just going off of some of the posts I've read from you but I'd appreciate some insights. I want to understand where you are coming from better.

 

[جوري]

Aprendre; i didn't wanna like your post as to not make him feel insecure and ganged up on but for honesty's sake and if he is truly a muslim, he does need to answer those with some semblance of truth. i don't think his destructive attitude would jive one bit during the days of the prophet and we should always model our lives after them even if the world & the people around us are far removed.

i have had al i can stand from him tonight, my computer is acting up an i too have been up since 4;30 so good luck getting some truthful answers from him
;W:

 

[Roasted Cashew]

i have had al i can stand from him tonight

Good Night and Sweet Dreams. Oh wait, do you dream of conspiracy theories as well in that paranoid mind of yours? Just Kidding. Sleep well!

 

[Roasted Cashew]

talk about everything that we're doing wrong....

Why do you do that?

Because hardly anyone here does. At least you agree that we do some wrong. There are people here who believe bearded men with turbans can do no wrong, that Muslims are just incapable of doing anything slightly wrong, that Muslims are angels and those who dare disagree with their narrative are labeled as Kaffirs or their conspirators/spies. What everybody does here is talk about how evil the "other" side is. As I once answered to someone on this forum, I believe we ought to see the elephant in our own backyard first before pointing at an ant on someone's else lawn..

but rarely about what we're doing right.

Why do you do that?

Because every other person here does that. No point me saturating the already thick medium of posts here on the line of we are "holier than thou", blah blah blah. Muslims need to open their eyes and not see the world in such a paranoid manner where everybody is trying to conspire against them.