Did Jesus (p) Deny Being God?

Al-Mu' min show me why you think the scripture I used was tampered with

it is true the bible has been tampered w. primarily by moslems
 
Why do you think this is a contradicition? It is commonly known that Mohammed and Muslims believe in all the scriptures before the Quran( ie; Injeel, Torah, and Zubur or Psalms)

get your story straight & quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. do or dont not moslems believe in the bible. & if not this bible which bible do ye believe in
 
Al-Mu'min said:
Peace again.

Why do you think this is a contradicition? It is commonly known that Mohammed and Muslims believe in all the scriptures before the Quran( ie; Injeel, Torah, and Zubur or Psalms).

Peace out.
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Because the Quran state the word of God cannot be altered...

yet now Muslims say it can.

Also yes I know of the Nicene council, I also know there are plenty more books.
1, 2, Enoch, Book of Jasher, Book of Jubilees just because these books are not in their Canonized Bible...does not stop us from reading or believing them.
 
O men! Fear your Lord

the fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom but not the end of it. perfect love casts out fear
 
god said:
get your story straight & quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. do or dont not moslems believe in the bible. & if not this bible which bible do ye believe in
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Dear brother,
There is no need to be rude. Just ask your questions politely and we will try to answer them to the best of our capabilities.
Please read this:
What do Muslims Believe:
http://www.load-islam.com/C/Islam/What_Do_Muslims_Believe/

Come back and we'll dialogue.
Peace.
 
bro god. i think you need to know the difference between wht muzlims believe and what christians believe cause i know there is a way big difference, like as muzlims they don't believe that Jesus is the son of god whereas the christians do so there you go there is a bid difference so i would suggess if you understad the differences what muzlims believe and what christian believe :)

if you have any questions plz feel free to ask :p

take care
 
HeiGou said:
Well that is a statement that conceals as much as it reveals. More accurately, Muhammed and Muslims believe in a lot of scriptures which no longer exists and which they claim are the real versions of the New Testament, Torah etc. They are required to believe in these as a matter of faith because they have not ever seen them or studied them.
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Thank you for the correction. I wouldv'e completed the statement but since it was mention so many times in this thread, you'd think people will get it by now.:okay:
 
well bro al-mu'min ofcourse the bible has been changed and sis nicole i suggess you to read the bible from a to b because believe me i've converted i know it has and if you don't believe me you can ask the priest!

and also bro al-mu'min has gave you the proove and also sis i suggess you find your proove and also then post cause its really hard to believe

take care :)
 
Al-Mu'min said:
Peace Nicola.
Didn't i explain this in detail in the last page?
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You have quoted the Quran...what other source do you have.

this is not proof at all..

Example: If Johnny writes a letter to Marry Joe and saves it. That Marry Joe later edits and/or modify claiming to be original letter by Johnny.
That can be proven wrong by Johnny because he got the master copy. So to
make Marry Joe looks like a fool and a liar all Johnny has to do is to give
another copy of Jean Doe to show the people that she [Marry Joe] is lying.
It pretty bad, for Marry Joe, isn't it?
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fair enough but Johnny isn't God...and the Quran states a number of times Gods words cannot be altered...The Bible is Gods word..

How about My example...Johnny wites Mary a letter.. Mary dies...shows everyone she knows, her letter..all Marys family and friends know exactly what that letter states, but then someone named Peter comes along years later and writes a story about that letter...gets a lot of his facts wrong and contridicts things, that are in the orginal letter..

Peter can't get Marys family or friends to believe him...because they still have the letter ..So peter starts telling other people that Marys family have changed the letter.....yet Peter shows no proof of these changes because there aren't any.....but Peter expects everyone to believe him and many do. Even though they have the chance to read the orginal one, they still believe Peter.

who do you believe?...Marys friends and family...or Peter.
 
Al-Mu'min said:
Salamu Alaikum.
Congratulations on your reversion sis.
May Allah guide us all. Ameen.
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thanks you bro :thankyou:

may god bless you too and your family :happy:

bro i just hate it when people don't have proof and just say stuff cause thats what they believe :rant:

take care
 
islamgyal said:
well bro al-mu'min ofcourse the bible has been changed and sis nicole i suggess you to read the bible from a to b because believe me i've converted i know it has and if you don't believe me you can ask the priest!

and also bro al-mu'min has gave you the proove and also sis i suggess you find your proove and also then post cause its really hard to believe

take care :)
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Proof from the Quran does not count.
You know it's been changed fair enough...without the Qurans assistance I hope.
show me your evidence please.
Which parts have been changed
When
Who by
Why

It's to easy to say...this and thats been changed without back up.

I am being lead by the Holy Spirit and he does not lie...He is the Spirit of Truth..
Why should I have to ask a priest anything.....The authourity of a priest comes from man not God.
 
Nicola said:
Proof from the Quran does not count.
You know it's been changed fair enough...without the Qurans assistance I hope.
show me your evidence please.
Which parts have been changed
When
Who by
Why

It's to easy to say...this and thats been changed without back up.

I am being lead by the Holy Spirit and he does not lie...He is the Spirit of Truth..
Why should I have to ask a priest anything.....The authourity of a priest comes from man not God.
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well sis the proof that bro al mu'min has gave you shows it all its just that you don't believe it sis cause at the end of the day if you don't believe this then am so sorry to say that you think were lieing:heated: :heated:

please sis refer to what bro al mu'min said cause like i said with out proof theres no poin saying stuff that is NOT true please try to understand :)

and i understand as you a christian is hard to believ cause it was hard for me but then again alot of christian believe that the bible was changed

but then again sis what can i say if you don't believe this :heated:

take care
 
Nicola said:
Proof from the Quran does not count.
You know it's been changed fair enough...without the Qurans assistance I hope.
show me your evidence please.
Which parts have been changed
When
Who by
Why

It's to easy to say...this and thats been changed without back up.

I am being lead by the Holy Spirit and he does not lie...He is the Spirit of Truth..
Why should I have to ask a priest anything.....The authourity of a priest comes from man not God.
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I give you an example of a grave addition that only been discovered, this addition cost so many lives.

I give you the reference and you check it up? OK

Here:
Go to biblegatway. Look up Mark 16:9-20 in the NIV edition.

Cool?
 
bro the sis does not believe that the bible was changed so how is she suppose to believe that!

and sis may i ask do you believe that Jesus was the son of god?

take care
 
Nicola said:
Proof from the Quran does not count.
You know it's been changed fair enough...without the Qurans assistance I hope.
show me your evidence please.
Which parts have been changed
When
Who by
Why

It's to easy to say...this and thats been changed without back up.

I am being lead by the Holy Spirit and he does not lie...He is the Spirit of Truth..
Why should I have to ask a priest anything.....The authourity of a priest comes from man not God.
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http://www.themodernreligion.com/comparative/christ/bible_tampered_qa.htm
 
islamgyal said:
bro god. i think you need to know the difference between wht muzlims believe and what christians believe cause i know there is a way big difference, like as muzlims they don't believe that Jesus is the son of god whereas the christians do so there you go there is a bid difference so i would suggess if you understad the differences what muzlims believe and what christian believe :)

if you have any questions plz feel free to ask :p

take care[/QUOT

i know all too well what moslems believe. i also get tired of moslem doubletalk
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