French Cities ban the Burkini

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kritikvernunft said:
Yes, the "Virtual Association in defense of the Burqini" must have several ambitions listed in its general mission statement. We already have:


  1. Counter-veiling measures against Statist organizations eforcing a ban on the burqini
  2. Encouraging existing swimming pools to convert their modus operandi and apply for the certification of "halal swimming pool" to be issued by the clergy working in conjunction with the virtual association
  3. Blacklist existing swimming pools that are burqini-unfriendly
  4. Encouraging the construction of new halal swimming pools




Concerning this encouragement, we can obviously assist Muslim enterpreneurs or other ones who see monetary benefits in operating halal swimming pools -- note that a halal swimming pool could just be a profitable business project and that non-Muslim enterpreneurs may also be interested in building them.

Furthermore, we can use crowdfunding methods to reduce the capital needs of such enterpreneurs:

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This should allow people from the entire, global Islamic community to help funding this kind of initiatives with their own 50 cents. In the end, there is way more than enough money floating around for this kind of initiatives, if you make it convenient to either donate or invest (in expectation of financial return and profits).

The Virtual Association itself should obviously mostly focus on advocacy, and not operate swimming pools, but rather facilitate for-profit or not-for-profit non-State actors to do so.
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Since you're pushing for separate measures, aren't you better of investing the money in a Muslim majority country?
That way you can at least bring your kids up in an Islamic atmosphere and not worry about having your swimming pool siezed because some foolish scumbag politician claims it "encourages radicalization" ?
Isn't it humiliating enough as it is?

I am aware of the fact that this negative outward concern about Islam stems from the fact that some french people are becoming more receptive to it, but it is also a furqaan, look at the percentages and choose wisely.
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,

This strikes me as totally inappropriate behaviour for the police to be engaged in:

French police make woman remove clothing on Nice beach following burkini ban

Peace
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So stupid this is unbelievable, I find it ironic how they claim to be fighting against a form of so-called 'religious' extremism when they are engaging in a 'secular' extremism themselves.

I also find it extremely sad how they insist Muslims need to make more of an effort to integrate into western society when they themselves are alienating them, particularly the Muslim youth.

I've grown up in the west and 99.9% percent of the Muslims I know see no conflict between their faith and their nationality - but thse people insist on creating this conflict when it didn't even exist. I get the feeling they are making it out you *have* to choose between either being a Muslim or citizen in this country, but you can't be both.
 
My neighbour is Christian, and whenever she goes to the beach she wears leggings and a long full-sleeved tunic....she was saying to me now if she'd even be allowed to go to a beach in France, lol.
 
The government of France hates Islaam. More than that: they hate Allaah. They hate "God". They hate "religion".

They are satanists. They love Shaytaan (satan), worship him and revere him. For that reason, they despise anything to do with religion or anything which even reminds a person of religion.

There is no surprise that they prohibit Muslim women from covering up in their country: as we said, they are satanists, and Shaytaan (satan) loves nudity. Shaytaan would be thrilled if everyone on earth walked around nude. That would make his day. So, his little worshippers (French government, army, police) have to ensure that all of their citizens walk around nude or at least semi-nude, and any kind of covering up is banned, because their false god (Shaytaan) hates it.
 
You can see that they fear that jihaad of the soul might fix people, so they harass muslims, make life a living hell, arm as many jihadis as they can, and tell people that they're worried about youth flying off to syria and back. Such blatant loser tactics.
 
May Allah swt guide us all,

France is leading the way in terms of xenophobia against Muslims and to some extent Jews, they've made full-pork menus compulsory in some schools several days a week with no vegetarian or halal/kosher alternative - what message is this giving to young children? You can't truly belong to this society if you don't eat roast pork. I wonder where the talk about tolerance and acceptance goes here.

Alhamdulillah that I live in the UK - it has its cons (as do most countries) but I've found for the most part they are very tolerant of others, it's a hugely multicultural society, a more welcoming place for a Muslim to be in than most of Europe or America. A college I once went to for exams had a separate prayer room for the Muslim students, and many of the female students (college, so no uniform) were wearing abayas on as well.
 
Allahuackbar! Muslims are getting persecuted from Europe to Asia, and we're getting verbally and physically abused throughout the world :-( even our religion is comedy to some of the kuffar.

What a trial this is for us.
 
Abz2000 said:
... aren't you better of investing the money in a Muslim majority country?
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From their falling birth rate, you can see that it is getting increasingly harder for the pagans to actually make children. Therefore, with a little bit of patience, someone else will inherit these pagan lands. If the Muslims don't make sure to be around when that happens, someone else will inherit them. In that sense, moving back from future Muslim majority countries to currently Muslim majority countries does not look like a good idea. I am not in favour of that plan.
 
Salaam

Well what else do you expect of France? it is a secular theocracy. Just goes to show the dangers of secularism to those who wish to practice their faith or even those who have faith.

Another update

Sarkozy calls burkinis a 'provocation' that supports radical Islam

The former French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, has branded the full-body burkini swimsuits worn by some Muslim women a “provocation” that supports radicalised Islam.

After efforts by a series of French coastal towns to ban women from wearing burkinis set off a heated debate in the country, Sarkozy said in a TV interview on Wednesday night that “we don’t imprison women behind fabric”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/25/burkini-ban-sarkozy-calls-swimsuits-a-provocation-that-support-radical-islam
 
I read this quote on social media 'So France is trying to free women from forced clothing choices by imposing forced clothing choices?' The logic behind it....
 
Junon said:
Sarkozy calls burkinis a 'provocation' that supports radical Islam

The former French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, has branded the full-body burkini swimsuits worn by some Muslim women a “provocation” that supports radicalised Islam.

After efforts by a series of French coastal towns to ban women from wearing burkinis set off a heated debate in the country, Sarkozy said in a TV interview on Wednesday night that “we don’t imprison women behind fabric”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...uits-a-provocation-that-support-radical-islam
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He should just say it as it is: He's a pervert who wants to ogle women. He and the rest of the "Ban the Veil/Hijaab/Burqa" lot. You'll find that the majority of them are males.

They want to ogle, but the Hijaab and veil is preventing them, so they have to ban it.
 
:salam:

The only reason for this is for them to practice their perversions, enough said. This is just Political 'correctness'. There is nothing extreme about burqas. They are just perverted minded. They want to strip Muslim woman off their clothes. They want to ogle, pretty obvious.

Basically anything Islamic 'supports' Radical extremism to them.. Almost heading that way, or are we heading that way? I think so.

This is just hypocrisy. They are the ones who corrupt society, that objectify woman as sex objects.

In short: they want to ogle at Muslim women, and because they cant do that, they use politics and ban stuff, only to practice their perversions.

Wallah, I have a feeling one day going with trousers would be extreme! Look around! women go in underwears almost! What next? Bikinis in college? Around town? In the streets? I am already seeing women going in underwear-sized pants.

I can clearly almost without doubt say that France is an Enemy of Islam, pretty obvious. as a state it is, for sure.
Allahu alam.
 
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Yes, because the more satanic a society is, the higher the level of nudity. That's why satanic rituals require that the members strip naked and rub excreta on themselves, and dance like that.

That's another thing Shaytaan likes: filth. Anything impure. Shaytaan hates cleanliness like how he hates modesty.
 
Huzaifah ibn Adam said:
Yes, because the more satanic a society is, the higher the level of nudity. That's why satanic rituals require that the members strip naked and rub excreta on themselves, and dance like that.

That's another thing Shaytaan likes: filth. Anything impure. Shaytaan hates cleanliness like how he hates modesty.
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One of Shaytaan's goals, is AFAIK, to strip mankind of their clothings - a blessing from Allah :swt: (the clothing). Basically, Shaytaan wants to rid people of hayah, dignity and honor, completely. I am pretty sure one of shaytaan's goal is to strip mankind off clothings, completely.

I wonder why tho. Afaik, it is because Iblees/shaytaan knows that once one has no clothes on, and goes around naked, one has lost dignity and modesty, and that pleases shaytaan. Anything that displeases Allah, pleases shaytaan. Pretty much.

may Allah :swt: protect us. Ameen.
 
Want a simple solution to complex geopolitical issues? Ban swimwear!
 
Muezzin said:
Want a simple solution to complex geopolitical issues? Ban swimwear!
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You would think France these days has more pressing issues (e.g. Brexit, terrorism, immigration) than whether women wear a burqini or not.
 

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