Women's choice on wearing hijab

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Abdullah910 said:
So if I tell my wife to wear Burqa or not to go out of house without my permission you think she has a right to disobey me?

LOL, where do you take your knowledge from??
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LOL where do you get yours?

She has a choice to listen to you or not. Doesn't mean she will be right for not doing it, depending on the circumstances.

What are you going to do if she doesn't obey you though?
 
*charisma* said:
LOL where do you get yours?

She has a choice to listen to you or not. Doesn't mean she will be right for not doing it, depending on the circumstances.

What are you going to do if she doesn't obey you though?
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Firstly I would never marry such a shameless woman, but if I do and if she disobeys me than I would hit her but wouldnt be too harsh.
 
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Abdullah910 said:
Divorce her? Why would I ever marry a woman who does not cover herself??

Logic?
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Brother, the most important thing about Islamic worship is to make our hearts good; full of mercy, tolerance and love

Islam is about goodness; mercy love patience, etc etc, hitting her and forcing her to wear niqab and divorcing her, blimey you see how an Islamaphobe can use this in the media to say these muslims are really like isis in terms of harshnesss?

fine you dont want to marry a non-hijabi/niqabi but in the circumstance where you did/do, then above qualities is the way to go about it and not harshness bro; it maybe she is better than you at heart!, so the 'shameless' girl might end up going to jananh and visa versa, this is why tolerance is the best way! :); yes advice her, but be patient!
 
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As-salamu alaykum (السلام عليكم)
OK so then in this matter when do you think a woman should be ready, when they are married, or when they are a teen or what ?
 
mraamohamed said:
As-salamu alaykum (السلام عليكم)
OK so then in this matter when do you think a woman should be ready, when they are married, or when they are a teen or what ?
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Logically speaking marriage is ompletion of the deen. In other words wearing hijab as clothing and also in behavior is the 50% of the deen that is within the marriage. To give a better understanding. When looking for a sister to marry one of the criteria for me is looking and testing her hijab level. What so I mean with this? How much does she even understand or even love the hijab?. Let's say I marry a sister she begins to wear it because I wanted it not because she her self wants it. After 1-2 months she gets pregnant and on the 3rd month I die. How will my child be brought up? Will my wife teach my child the Islamic principles INCLUDING hijab aspects if it happened to be a daughter?

So rather this should be part for the sister and brothers as well to work on their half of the deen before marrying. The moment you marry Allah gives you the second half of the deen and your spouse will love you more because of your love for the deen. Of course people can say and have of opinion to wear it after marriage so to say, but to me this shows they do not want to go the extra mile for the sake of Allah rather it looks like the want to wear it for the sake of their husbands. This however shows kind of ingenuines right? But that is my opinion to how much I have pondered about it.

Do keep in mind that the hijab for the brothers is equally if not more important than of the sisters why?. Because Allah doesn't say for the "beievers to have hijab (man & women) rather Allah first talks about the men then after that He talks about women. So it looks more like it for the men to fix their hijab of more importance than to look at women and say this or that. Although that doesn't take away the sister I want to marry should as equally take the same matter as serious.
 
In our times, we have reduced hijab to a headscarf that serves as a badge of one’s Muslim identity, and have removed it from a larger understanding ofhaya’and how this beautiful quality should cultivate our behavior in the public sphere and in our relationships with others. The trend of hijab/hijabi fashion in particular has, in many ways, effectively divorcedhaya’from hijab. The hijabi fashion trend has also taken no strides to changing spiritually unhealthy cultural norms, or to recasting definitions of beauty and a woman’s worth. Instead, in many cases, it has simply put a headscarf on mainstream fashion with all of its failings, including an extremely narrow and exploitative view of beauty and sexuality....... http://www.ilmgate.org/more-than-a-headscarf-how-hijab-has-lost-its-soul/
 
:salam:

Nowadays, some Muslims feel very apologetic about Islam, and feel that it must appear to conform with "freedom of choice". Yet, if we think about it, why? In other aspects of life, for everyone globally, there is no choice, and that is not viewed even remotely as a problem. Eg in many schools across the globe, there is a uniform. You are admitted to that school, but have to agree to follow the rules on uniform. This often covers the colour and exact style etc. You can't go to that school but then demand you want to exercise your freedom of choice on uniform and wear red instead of blue. Neither can you say you want to absorb some of the ethos of the school first and that only when you feel you are properly ready will you then wear the uniform. Neither can you say you are being forced to wear the uniform against your will, when it was clearly part of the rules to attend that school. Granted, hijab is not just a uniform but a whole lot more deeper and protective than that. If you are a Muslim, then certain things are mandated on you, and for women, hijab is one of them. Certain things in Islam are a choice, eg you have the choice as to whether to pray tahajjud or not. Hijab is not one of those things about which there is a choice as to whether you do it or not.
 
:salam:

It is an obligation - but it is a choice to follow the commandment of Allah. If she doesn't, she only does it against her own self, if she obeys, she does it only for the benefit of her own self.

Allahu alam.
 
Serinity said:
:salam:

It is an obligation - but it is a choice to follow the commandment of Allah. If she doesn't, she only does it against her own self, if she obeys, she does it only for the benefit of her own self.

Allahu alam.
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I must correct you little bit, not only against her ownself, but also creating disturbance in society. Reality is what it is that not all men are able to lower their gaze as each and every brother is on a different level in their life about the controlling of one's gaze. So the ones that aren't able yet, this covering is protection for the sister as well as protection for the brother as further action (rape for example) is prevented as there is nothing to see even if he looks. Yes for the sisters that speak of outrage about some men STILL harassing females ..covered or not covered and Islam has also thought about that..male mahram being with her as her guarding. So whatever you (people in general) try to debunk Islam being "backward" i have found NO logical, rational, reasonable and ROBUST way of life than the Islamic way of life.
 
Simple_Person said:
I must correct you little bit, not only against her ownself, but also creating disturbance in society. Reality is what it is that not all men are able to lower their gaze as each and every brother is on a different level in their life about the controlling of one's gaze. So the ones that aren't able yet, this covering is protection for the sister as well as protection for the brother as further action (rape for example) is prevented as there is nothing to see even if he looks. Yes for the sisters that speak of outrage about some men STILL harassing females ..covered or not covered and Islam has also thought about that..male mahram being with her as her guarding. So whatever you (people in general) try to debunk Islam being "backward" i have found NO logical, rational, reasonable and ROBUST way of life than the Islamic way of life.
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JazakAllah khayr. I forgot that. Yeah, it is not only against her ownself, but she spreads / supports corruption.

I mixed the obligation of prayer, etc. Since not praying only harms oneself. As for things like not covering, might harm society / make it harder to stay away from Zina. And Allah :swt: knows best. May Allah :swt: forgive us and guide us. Ameen.
 
I do believe hijab is an obligation for women-that being said both and MEN and women should act/dress modestly. So muslim men who go on about muslim women posting selfies on social media yet post shirtless pics of themselves, what are yall playing at?
However Hijab should be forced,I only recently started wearing hijab due to my own choice.
 

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