Would you test someone if you already knew the results?

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Hmmmmmmmmm............ :rollseyes

 

[IceQueen~]

How will we know we deserve our punishments or our rewards? Before the Earth was formed, God decided whether I, for instance, would go to Heaven or Hell. Well before I was born that decision had been made. So what can I do either way to change that? Suppose I have a choice before me: God knows what I will do. Can I change that, can I make a different decision other than the one that God has already decided that I will make?

it's the difference between the verb 'to decide' and 'to know'
you have free will for choosing whatever you choose but God knows what it is.

 

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Allah knows what will happen to us in our lives,but He still gives us a chance to live our lives as He is the most Just. He has given us a free will to do as we please, and He has sent us the Quran as a guidance and mercy to mankind, so that we may ch0ose the path that will benefit us.

 

[Mohsin]

Its my CIA badge number.

She meant your signature, not avatar.

About too many muslims wearing the name but not following religion

 

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She meant your signature, not avatar.

About too many muslims wearing the name but not following religion

That is true and i don't deny it. However it's no different from other religions.

 

[HeiGou]

it's the difference between the verb 'to decide' and 'to know'
you have free will for choosing whatever you choose but God knows what it is.

Except not a feather fall but it is God's doing. A Muslim once told me that a knife does not cut butter - God allows the knife to cut butter. There is, in this case, no difference between God's decision and God's knowing. He decided when He created the Universe. But even if my decision is known already, can I choose otherwise? Can I end up doing something other than what God already knows I am going to do?

 

[IceQueen~]

Can I end up doing something other than what God already knows I am going to do?

yup you can but God knows that too! LOL!!;D

 

[Al-Mu'min]

Peace.

God simply allows you to choose between right or wrong just as he simply knows what your choice will be.

But before any choice is made, God explains what is right from what is wrong. He also explains that you actions will either be rewarded or punished. It's your choice. You will either be rewarded or punished depending on the choice you have made.

Most importantly, in the end both you and God know what you did in this life. And everything is recorded.

Peace out.

 

[j4763]

She meant your signature, not avatar.

About too many muslims wearing the name but not following religion

Guess you just answerd it

 

[Mohsin]

Originally Posted by HeiGou
Can I end up doing something other than what God already knows I am going to do?

yup you can but God knows that too! LOL!!

Lol that answers it

Whatever you end up doing, God already knows that.
Say you are going to do X, so you think God thinks you will do X, so now you do Y. Now your question is can you do it since God thinks you're going to do X

Well the answer is that the thin king is flawed, as God would know from the beginning that you are going to do Y


Anyways, you can think of all the ins and outs, you will never know what you think God knows, so you might think "God thinks i am going to do X, so i will do Y" since you do not know what God is thinking. God knows all the ins and outs

Hope that explains insha'allah

 

[Kidman]

I don't know if anybody posted this example yet, but it's like this:

Say the teacher knows you, and knows that you will pass the class with an A+, is it right for that teacher to just give you an A+ or would it be fair for her to make you have to take the class and all the tests to get the A+???

Kavon

 

[Mohsin]

I don't know if anybody posted this example yet, but it's like this:

Say the teacher knows you, and knows that you will pass the class with an A+, is it right for that teacher to just give you an A+ or would it be fair for her to make you have to take the class and all the tests to get the A+???

Kavon

Jk Khairun for fitting example

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

eace:

Thats like saying: Why kick a ball if you know where its gonna go? You kno its gonna go where u aim it so why kick it?

Allah swt has given us freewill to USE, yes he can easily tell us what we will do but then why should we enter jannah? what have we done to enter it? Also the people who enter jahannam will complain a LOT, lol can you imagine? not doing anything bad and going to hell? You'd b like WHAT? so thats the reason!! Its so that we understand and experience this dunya and get what we deserve!!

eace:
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[j4763]

Ok, so why does allah test the evil? If he knows there going to kill, rape...etc why not stick them in hell at the very begining?
And does allah have some form of contract with the devil, i mean if god doesn't what someone to enter heaven/jannah does he say to satan "this guys been bad, so he's gotta go to hell" and what if satan dont want him either? Or does god own both heaven and hell?

 

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Guess you just answerd it

Actually why have u picked that?

 

[j4763]

Actually why have u picked that?

Hopefully to make it aware that Muslims aren’t all evil head chopping terrorists.
And that many so-called Muslims aren’t following Islam. About 70% of Muslims I have known do not follow the Quran (some drink or smoke pot or eat pork…etc) and yet claim to be a Muslim and intern follow Islam which they are clearly not doing so.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Say the teacher knows you, and knows that you will pass the class with an A+, is it right for that teacher to just give you an A+ or would it be fair for her to make you have to take the class and all the tests to get the A+???

Teachers never know what grades their students are going to get. They can have a pretty good idea, but all kinds of things can change on the day of the test. That's very different from the foreknowledge that god is said to have.

Peace

 

[- Qatada -]

Hey j4763.


God owns & created paradise and hell. satan (the devil) is another creation of God, and satan will end up in hellfire too, due to the fact that he disobeys God, and he won't be able to bear the torture there either.

Ok, so why does allah test the evil? If he knows there going to kill, rape...etc why not stick them in hell at the very begining?

This has been mentioned over and over - the reason why God lets people live in this world and do their bad & good actions is so that there is evidence against them or with them on the day of judgement.


In the Qur'an it is mentioned:

They will then confess their sins: but far will be (Forgiveness) from the Companions of the Blazing Fire! (67:11)


If a person was thrown into hell from the beginning, then they could ask God what they did wrong, therefore God is the Most Just, and their acts in this world will be proof to support their eternal home in the afterlife.


It's also important to remember that:

Since Almighty God made all human beings swear to His Unique Divinity and Lordship when He created Adam (see Holy Qur'an 7:172), this oath is printed on the human soul even before it enters the mother's fetus. So when a child is born, it has with it a natural belief in God. This natural belief is called in Arabic the "fitrah". If a child were left alone, it would grow up aware of Almighty God in His Unity, but all children are affected by the pressures of their environment. The Prophet Muhammad - the Final Messenger of God, may God bless him and give him peace, reported that God the Exalted said: "I created My servants in the right religion, but the devils made them go astray." (Reported in Sahih Muslim.) The Messenger of God, may God bless him and give him peace, also said: "Each child is born in a state of fitrah, but his parents make him a Jew or a Christian." (Reported in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim).

It's so simple, all the prophets come with the same message for man to obey the God who created him/her. But people make the matter so complicated, and this is why there is no compulsion in religion - whoever chooses to obey their Lord, they are promised with paradise, and whoever rejects the One who created him/her - they get the hellfire, due to them rejecting their Lord's promise.


..and Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

 

[Daffodil]

god can change ur fate at any one time dnt forget, so although everything is pre destined for u, that doesnt mean he cant change ur fate/destiny.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

god can change ur fate at any one time dnt forget, so although everything is pre destined for u, that doesnt mean he cant change ur fate/destiny.

I would have thought that that's exactly what it means. :?

Peace