Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?

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Rou said:
lol your questioning why or how islam has made things better or it hasnt!??

on what basis again!? islam as a way of life has made it better for many muslims who llive around the world if your talking about goverments and ways of life that is don to the human population not the religon...

islam as a religon if followed correctly lol even to the basics improves your life

what are you matching up islam to again?

compared to what??

western life?

IF!! islam was allowed to prosper without intervention yes it would grow if money was not allowed to make the world go round indeed it would make things better but unfortunatly the balance in this world is tipped by unfair economics and to survive one must play a games with this economics...

saudi arabia if you think is in any way a view of what a caliphate under true islamic law would be like then you are gravely mistaken...

the rules are bartered between the well off and the poor just as in the USA and the UK...

oil that is bought by the west and the power that is given to those who do not deserve it nake sure that the balance in islam can not be laid down...

you say islam has not improved any thing or brought any good since the time of ali!?? and how much research did you do to get to that as it is an untrue statment!

the caliphate improved itself and grew in power and knowledge well after ali.

islam has improved so many peoples lives mine included and you right it of as a goverment that controls a country!? you are misguided in thinking that there is a diffrence in a goverment and a way of life the islamic way of life demands peace and demands fairness where as the fairness shown in the UK and USA are abhorent!

the people are used there ways of life controlled to the last second...

if caliphate is reborn and it will be and when islam is followed clearly then question it... not in times where the economic market control who starves and who suffers...

including the saudi leaders who have sold themselves and become used to living there rich ways while there brothers suffer...

do not mistake that for islam...

for it is nothing but greed that has spread like a disease...

and do not pass your judgment on that of which you do not know...

your right in our life time we have not seen the caliphate nor its success but you aint dead yet...
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But what if you aren't muslim. The rules you must adhere to under there rule would be outrageous even to other muslims. If we constituted something along the lines of Dhimmi here in the West the howl from Muslims would be deafening.
 
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I've got a better question why do the kufar live in this dunya when they disobey allah, I say if your gonna disobey him don't live on his land.
 
Those stupid extremists like bin laden hate the west because we are more efficient than the east. we have more money, and your jellous. your living the lifestyle we had 500 years ago for crying out flaming loud!
and trying to run a country with religion is a baaad idea.
 
I think the main Muslims have with living in the west is that they get sterotyped [women wearing niqaab] as being an undercover terrorists...and with the new terrorist laws coming in...seem bit wohh...bit extreme for my liking...glorify terrorism and out you go 10 years 4 u matey...so Id watch wah you say incase there sum undercover MI5 prying or posting, never know what the British could sink to, and all the laws and leglisations made by the British certainly contradict that of what the Shaariah consists of [eg laws on rape/treating of homosexuals/allowing intresting]...from the most major of things to the minor things...
When living in Saudi, despite how corrupt the people running it are [if they are] you get to abide by what Islam teaches you...moreover what Allah has sent down as to be the law...as stated in Quran and Sunnah...
Well thats my opion, dunno if it makes sense but ah well..
Peace x
 
Pshh...all that money diverted to the miliatary to make weopons etc to kill innocents cilivians in countries maybe America should channel their genorosity to feedin the third world...Allah has distrbuted welath and it is up to us to use it in a good way shame America doesnt Allah guide them Peace x
 
wots the point of giving money & food & then bombing the crap out of them? america just acts gud, everyone knows the truth about them & look how sad they are, they have to bomb from the air, if they are real men why dont they come on the land and fight!!

by the way lol on topic me dont hate the west!! lol
 
HeiGou said:
You think? I think it is an odd shape myself. But now we are really off topic and Muezzin will come and hand out some Big Time A** Whoopin' if we are not careful.
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You've got Nostradumus' number.

Off-topic deletion spree... ACTIVATE.

Please stay on topic everyone, ta.
 
Those stupid extremists like bin laden hate the west because we are more efficient than the east. we have more money, and your jellous. your living the lifestyle we had 500 years ago for crying out flaming loud!
and trying to run a country with religion is a baaad idea.
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who have you been listening to?
 
Yo Muezzin why in blue blazin' hell you delete ma post for? Pshhhh...was an answer to Heigous comments :'( Onli fair ya delte the whole thread...not that you aint thought of it already...Boo it me departing from this thread sinse all my posts just end up gettin delted from unthoughtful mods :'(
Peace x

I deleted those posts because they were replying to and quoting from ones which were off-topic.

-Muezzin
 
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Allow me, no really I insist...serves the mod to delte my 'ON THREAD' post :)
This thread is being closed :) Hopefully Peace out x

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Greetings,

Don't close the thread - really interested to see how i-t justifies this charming bit of sophistry:

islam-truth said:
I've got a better question why do the kufar live in this dunya when they disobey allah, I say if your gonna disobey him don't live on his land.
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Are you saying that kaffirs don't have the right to live on this planet at all?

Peace
 
czgibson said:
Are you saying that kaffirs don't have the right to live on this planet at all?
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He meant that kaffirs, as humans and creations of God, don't deserve to enjoy this planet when they fail to obey their Creator.
 
All off-topic posts deleted, regardless of who posted them.

Primitivefuture, there is an invisible mode members may use to appear offline when they are really online. It is available in the User CP area.
 
Templar Knight said:
But what if you aren't muslim. The rules you must adhere to under there rule would be outrageous even to other muslims. If we constituted something along the lines of Dhimmi here in the West the howl from Muslims would be deafening.
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im talking about many have lived under muslims rule whop werent muslims and they were not oppressed or made to be muslims...

they were allowed to follow there religon and lived peacefully alongside muslims...

to be muslim is a choice it can not be forced...

there is a massive misconception of islam and thats why it is feared and that which is feared is attacked and in the end wether you like it or not that which is attacked will strike back...

there is no point in complaining about it afterwards...

islam is peace but it will strike back when attacked simple...

as for the living together like i said in islam the law is to get on with your neighbours whatever race...to live in peace...

with a true islamic caliphate it would bring more peace not war...
 
woodworm said:
Those stupid extremists like bin laden hate the west because we are more efficient than the east. we have more money, and your jellous. your living the lifestyle we had 500 years ago for crying out flaming loud!
and trying to run a country with religion is a baaad idea.
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cool down white dude lol
 

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