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Revenge is always a poor option. When a person seeks revenge, it is giving into their own sense of gratification. Revenge is an excuse to feel good about killing. Killing should not ever be a choice of pleasure or gratification.

Revenge is placing the ultimate judgement upon the life of another person. Who on this earth is capable of judgement?
 
meepzorb said:
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Sure go ahead and do it if u can. :thankyou:
About beheading that’s the Islamic way of killing a person, as practiced in the time of the Prophet(PBUH) and still in practice in Saudi Arabia

About torture read my sigy, we are ‘allowed’ repay in kind what has been inflicted upon us but 'not' start the cycle (ie do something first before any provocations of same kind)

I know this sounds harsh but it is Islamic from what i understand, and war is no picnic


P.S. keep in mind that we are talking about soliders here
 
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You tell me, moderator man. :giggling: ( congrats. ) :hiding:
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Thanks. Though, to tell the truth, I have to ban you now as you're a previously banned member posting under an alias, which is against the rules. :)
 
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Vahid said:
Sure go ahead and do it if u can. :thankyou:
About beheading that’s the Islamic way of killing a person, as practiced in the time of the Prophet(PBUH) and still in practice in Saudi Arabia

About torture read my sigy, we are ‘allowed’ repay in kind what has been inflicted upon us but 'not' start the cycle (ie do something first before any provocations of same kind)

I know this sounds harsh but it is Islamic from what i understand, and war is no picnic

P.S. keep in mind that we are talking about soliders here
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Wow, really? Islam allows prisoners of war to be executed? And even torture in revenge? Might I ask where it allows such thing in Islam? Is it in the Qu'ran?

I once read a website on on POWs in Islamic Law and I don't remember them saying any such thing.
http://islamtoday.net/english/showme.cfm?cat_id=30&sub_cat_id=491

Neither does IslamOnline.net.
http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/politics/System/article05.shtml

Why the disagreement? Or am I misreading things here, thats also quite possible :).
 
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Woodrow said:
Revenge is always a poor option. When a person seeks revenge, it is giving into their own sense of gratification. Revenge is an excuse to feel good about killing. Killing should not ever be a choice of pleasure or gratification.

Revenge is placing the ultimate judgement upon the life of another person. Who on this earth is capable of judgement?
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What an unbelievably different and better world it would be if everybody thought that way. :(
 
KAding said:
Wow, really? Islam allows prisoners of war to be executed? And even torture in revenge? Might I ask where it allows such thing in Islam? Is it in the Qu'ran?
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reread my post and my sigy :thankyou: and yes prisoners defiantly can be executed(or ransomed depending on the choice of the commander in field) as was done by Ummar(ra) and in Islamic wars during the Prophets(pbuh) time
 
wilberhum said:
When you use evil to fight evil, the outcome is guaranteed..
Evil will win.
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But when you fight fire with fire, the outcome that is guaranteed is a really lame song :p

But seriously, good post. That quote from Ghandi about an eye for eye leaving the whole world blind comes to mind.
 
Muezzin said:
But when you fight fire with fire, the outcome that is guaranteed is a really lame song :p

But seriously, good post. That quote from Ghandi about an eye for eye leaving the whole world blind comes to mind.
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salam
heh we been through this, is Ghandi the new prophet whose words supercede the Quran?
 
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People who hold the view of no war and such are plain stupid the minute they're attacked there survival instincts kick in and they become hyprocrites.
 
islam-truth said:
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People who hold the view of no war and such are plain stupid the minute they're attacked there survival instincts kick in and they become hyprocrites.
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Wars can and will be.

In the entire written history of the Human race, there has been less then 15 minutes of total world wide Peace. ( I heard that someplace, I do not no where I originaly heard it)

Now knowing that, we do have to be aware that each generation will be involved in warefare at some time. What we need to strive and pray for is that we will not be the aggressors and that in spite of the horrors of war we can still uphold our values and treat people as we would want to be treated, not in accordance with what we believe to be just.

Perhaps it is because it is something we know our children and grandchildren will one day face that we tend to glorify war. Yet, stop and think. When we glorify war and want (enjoy it) to participte are we not giving worship to a false god? Is not loving and wanting to be a combatant the same as worshiping the false god Mars?

Most of us that have served in combat, look back in our later years and we see that what we thought then as glory was merely giving justification to act out our foulist deeds.

A true soldier is one who can win a battle with out injurying a single person. Now, that can not be attainable, but a true soldier will try to achieve it. Success in warfare should not be measured in how many of the enemy are killed, it should be measured in the lives saved on all sides.

Stop and think, any person killed will be either a Muslim, or a person who is potentialy a Muslim if left to live. A person you hate today, could become a great scholar tomorrow.
 
Woodrow said:
Wars can and will be.

In the entire written history of the Human race, there has been less then 15 minutes of total world wide Peace. ( I heard that someplace, I do not no where I originaly heard it)

Now knowing that, we do have to be aware that each generation will be involved in warefare at some time. What we need to strive and pray for is that we will not be the aggressors and that in spite of the horrors of war we can still uphold our values and treat people as we would want to be treated, not in accordance with what we believe to be just.

Perhaps it is because it is something we know our children and grandchildren will one day face that we tend to glorify war. Yet, stop and think. When we glorify war and want (enjoy it) to participte are we not giving worship to a false god? Is not loving and wanting to be a combatant the same as worshiping the false god Mars?

Most of us that have served in combat, look back in our later years and we see that what we thought then as glory was merely giving justification to act out our foulist deeds.

A true soldier is one who can win a battle with out injurying a single person. Now, that can not be attainable, but a true soldier will try to achieve it. Success in warfare should not be measured in how many of the enemy are killed, it should be measured in the lives saved on all sides.

Stop and think, any person killed will be either a Muslim, or a person who is potentialy a Muslim if left to live. A person you hate today, could become a great scholar tomorrow.
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I agree but I'm sick of people who come out with phrases as there's never good enough reason for war and and such cause they're just hyprocrites.
 
I want your definition on whats evil is
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Well take some guesses. I will tell you if you are right. I’m not about to spend hours trying to educate an indoctrinated.
 
islam-truth said:
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what do you mean by this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the rules of engagement are the key here. The U.S. invasion of Iraq WAS illegal and the atrocities that followed were equally so... abu graib, etc.

I hate what happened, all of what happened, to everyone... but I don't rule this world. The Shia death squads torture Sunnis because Sunnis fight for their country (by any means possible because they're really out-gunned). The Sunnis behead the Shia for bringing in the U.S. and the U.S. acts like it's shocked by what it sees here? It caused all this in the first place! Well thanks to Bush, and his blood-lust for Zarqawi, the message was delivered. Compassion doesn't work... and for those who thought Zarqawi was bad... boy are you about to learn a nasty lesson!

Ninth Scribe
 

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