The “Human Shield” LIE Exposed

[babybackribs]

I think this one's on Hezbollah.

 

[Hijrah]

The "Israelian" Goverment? You must be kidding me.

The ISRAELI goverment did not start this. Hezbollah started this conflict by killing 8 and kidnaping 2... no they and the people who they hide behind like cowards are suffering the consequences.

the group which was formed by Israel occupying Lebansese Borders, sure Hezbollah's a bunch of psychopaths but so is Israel

I think this one's on both of 'em

 

[Abdul Fattah]

The "Israelian" Goverment? You must be kidding me.

The ISRAELI goverment did not start this. Hezbollah started this conflict by killing 8 and kidnaping 2... no they and the people who they hide behind like cowards are suffering the consequences.

The conflict was on it's turn the result of an earlyer conflict and eventually we'll get back to the unanswered post of another thread...
But regardless of this, that doesn't change anything to the accuracy of my statement: I didn't say you did make the rules. I'm not pointing a finger at you, I'm pointing a finger at those who did make the rules: Israelian goverment.

Note that in this sentence "the rules" are refering to the method of combating Hezbollah.

 

[guyabano]

I didn't say you did make the rules. I'm not pointing a finger at you, I'm pointing a finger at those who did make the rules: Israelian goverment.

C'mon Steve, accept the facts! Hezbollah build ****, now they get more **** !
Wasn't it inside the bible where it was written: When you seed a wind, you will harvest a storm??

I guess, it has been forgotten already, why all this started ! 2 jewish soldiers, kidnapped, forgotten???

 

[scentsofjannah]

C'mon, does here ever somebody read a post? I don't believe, but "scentsofjannah", thats why she provide us this really "trustful" link !

wakeupfromyourslumber.com???????

LOL! This is your credible source. How about the video and pictures of Hezbollah actually doing it!!!!!!!!!! Has it always been your nature to reject 100% evidence.

Its a BLOG i never presented it as a 'news website' do you guys even know what a blog means..? look it up in the dictionary..that blogger could be a satanist for all i know, does that mean i believe in Satanism? haha and i really wouldnt care..that doesnt mean ofcourse everything that comes out of their mouth is lies and to be dismissed rightaway...its strange you mention Illuminati..its historical proven to have existed ...check wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati also this site http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07661b.htm also check the many links at the bottom..it was always a secret society..same as Skulls and Bones(George Bush, John Kerry, and many other presidents -and politicians are members of it)


Journalist Alexandra Robbins wrote a book on Skull and Bones in which she delved into the group's kinky secrets, just like in the movies! She described the group's initiation ritual to CBS News thusly:

There is a devil, a Don Quixote and a Pope who has one foot sheathed in a white monogrammed slipper resting on a stone skull. The initiates are led into the room one at a time. And once an initiate is inside, the Bonesmen shriek at him. Finally, the Bonesman is shoved to his knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. And Don Quixote lifts his sword and taps the Bonesman on his left shoulder and says, 'By order of our order, I dub thee knight of Euloga.' read more about it here

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/skull-and-bones/

Apart from presidents, Bones has included cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, statesmen and captains of industry - and often their sons, and lately their daughters, too.

It’s a social and political network like no other. And they've responded to outsiders with utter silence – until an enterprising Yale graduate, Alexandra Robbins, managed to penetrate the wall of silence in her book, “Secrets of the Tomb.” Correspondent Morley Safer reports.

”I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members who were tired of the secrecy, and that's why they were willing to talk to me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed me, or threatened me.”

Also read up more on the CBS 60 mins programme about this secret society (theres also a video tho it didnt work for me)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5244.htm (source of the quote above from CBS )



To our Jewish brother here Lavikor

why isnt Israel shooting the Hezbollah rockets before they land in Israel? if its so worried about its civilians it would shoot them down since it has highly sophisticated weapons to do that? as this CNN anchor said http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspo...okeswoman.html (none of you are addressing what shes saying or what that blogger in the website in my first post is saying)

CNN anchor: “[Hizbullah’s rockets] are crude rockets, aren’t they? and after all, their impact has been minimal compared to the impact of Israeli strikes on Lebanon.

Explain something to us, why would you not try to be shooting these Katusha missiles, or rockets I should say – they’re not missiles at all - they’re rockets. Why would Israel not be trying to shoot them out of the sky? They have the capability to do that.
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They have the capability to do that

They have the capability to do that

They have the capability to do that

i want Guyabano, Lavikor, Gerinimo, Heigou to give us an intelligent answer.

It seems Israel has now decided to launch a ground offensive to root out Hezbollah militants..which was what the blogger said to should have done in the first place instead of bombings the entire country into smihterenes and destroying basic infrastructure etc

let me remind you

ISRAEL could invade the border with ground forces and attempt to attack Hizbullah selectively with very little Lebanese civilian casualties. But, that course of action results in high Israeli military casualties, which Israel is not willing to suffer http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com

but Israel i believe will step up the ground invasion as well the aerial bombardment ..it has realised though that it's impossible to root out Hezbollah from the air. Hezbollah is in the government...it has many members in the parliament..many Lebanese ministers support it eg the Lebanese Minister of Labour ( even though he isnt from Hezbollah)..many Lebanese people call it the Muqawammah ie the resistance..because they singlehandedly liberated much of Southern Lebanon after an 18 year Israeli occupation..to the Lebanese people they are their heroes and massive celebrations occured every where in Lebanon after the Israelis left.
that doesnt mean and mark my owrds please they are all happy it acted unilaterally in this case and this has been a big mistake(even i recognise that)..that doesnt change their status overnight from 'Muqawammah' to 'terrorists' in the eyes of the average lebanese and even people higher up in the government.

watch this video too http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/youre-damned-right-this-is.html it has a heavy metal song (lyrics on the same site) the video is called "You’re damned right this is disproportionate” ..want to know who said it..none other than Israel's Ambassador to the U.N 'in response to claims by some U.N member states'

taraaa

 

[scentsofjannah]

C'mon Steve, accept the facts! Hezbollah build ****, now they get more **** !
Wasn't it inside the bible where it was written: When you seed a wind, you will harvest a storm??

I guess, it has been forgotten already, why all this started ! 2 jewish soldiers, kidnapped, forgotten???

Where were they when they got captured? inside Lebanese territories.

The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its neighbor to look for them. The forces were trying to keep the soldiers' captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli government officials said on condition of anonymity
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html


The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced on Wednesday that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails, our strugglers have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon," a statement by Hezbollah said. "The two soldiers have already been moved to a safe place," it added. The Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were captured as they "infiltrated" into the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border. [Hindustan Times 7/12/06] http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1742306,00050004.htm

The Lebanese Hezbollah movement announced Wednesday the arrest of two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were arrested as they entered the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border. Israeli aircraft were active in the air over southern Lebanon, police said, with jets bombing roads leading to the market town of Nabatiyeh, 60 kilometers south of Beirut Bahrain News Agency http://english.bna.bh/?ID=47348

TRANSLATION: According to the Lebanese police force, the two soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in the area of Aïta Al-Chaab close to the border, whereas Israeli television indicated that they had been captured in Israeli territory. [fr.news.yahoo 7/12/06] http://fr.news.yahoo.com/12072006/2...deux-soldats-israeliens-sept-autres-tues.html

According to the Lebanese police force, the two Israeli soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in the area of Aïta Al-Chaab, near to the border with Israel, where an Israeli unit had penetrated in middle of morning. [AFP 7/12/06]

The militant group Hezbollah said it captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes across the border in southern Lebanon on Wednesday. [chinabroadcast 7/12/06] http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/2947/2006/07/12/[email protected]

In the afternoon, the scene changed in the streets of southern Lebanon, which was the target of 32 Israeli raids that mainly targeted areas near the area where the two soldiers were captured in Aita al Chaab, close to the border with Israel. [news.monstersandcritics.com 7/12/06] http://news.monstersandcritics.com/...ack_in_the_spotlight_after_capturing_soldiers

It all started on July 12 when Israel troops were ambushed on Lebanon's side of the border with Israel. Hezbollah, which commands the Lebanese south, immediately seized on their crossing. They arrested two Israeli soldiers, killed eight Israelis and wounded over 20 in attacks inside Israeli territory. [Asia Times 7/15/06] http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html

TRANSLATION: Hezbollah has made it clear time and again that it would retaliate by capturing and detaining Israeli soldiers if they entered Lebanon and use them in an exchange of prisoners. Israel has in a deliberate manner sent a commando into Lebanon (Aïta Al Chaab) They came under attack from Hezbollah, who captured two of their soldiers. [voltairenet.org 7/18/06] http://www.voltairenet.org/article142056.html

Only weeks ago, an entire reserve division was drafted in order to train for an operation such as the one the IDF is planning in response to Wednesday morning's Hizbullah attacks on IDF forces along the northern border. [JPost 7/12/06] http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...50885978380&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Israel's military response by air, land and sea to what it considered a provocation last week by Hezbollah militants is unfolding according to a plan finalized more than a year ago.

In the years since Israel ended its military occupation of southern Lebanon, it watched warily as Hezbollah built up its military presence in the region. When Hezbollah militants kidnapped two Israeli soldiers last week, the Israeli military was ready to react almost instantly. [SFGate 7/21/06] http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/07/21/MIDEAST.TMP&type=printable

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/169834.php

 

[scentsofjannah]

http://www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=9401



Kidnapped in Israel or Captured in Lebanon?


Official justification for Israel's invasion on thin ice
by Joshua Frank

As Lebanon continues to be pounded by Israeli bombs and munitions, the justification for Israel's invasion is treading on very thin ice. It has become general knowledge that it was Hezbollah guerillas that first kidnapped two IDF soldiers inside Israel on July 12, prompting an immediate and violent response from the Israeli government, which insists it is acting in the interest of national defense. Israeli forces have gone on to kill over 370 innocent Lebanese civilians (compared to 34 killed on Israel's side) while displacing hundreds of thousands more. But numerous reports from international and independent media, as well as the Associated Press, raise questions about Israel's official version of the events that sparked the conflict two weeks ago.

The original story, as most media tell it, goes something like this: Hezbollah attacked an Israeli border patrol station, killing six and taking two soldiers hostage. The incident happened on the Lebanese/Israel border in Israeli territory. The alternate version, as explained by several news outlets, tells a bit of a different tale: These sources contend that Israel sent a commando force into southern Lebanon and was subsequently attacked by Hezbollah near the village of Aitaa al-Chaab, well inside Lebanon's southern territory. It was at this point that an Israel tank was struck by Hezbollah fighters, which resulted in the capture of two Israeli soldiers and the death of six.

As the AFP reported, "According to the Lebanese police force, the two Israeli soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in the area of Aitaa al-Chaab, near to the border with Israel, where an Israeli unit had penetrated in middle of morning." And the French news site www.VoltaireNet.org reiterated the same account on June 18, "In a deliberated way, [Israel] sent a commando in the Lebanese back-country to Aitaa al-Chaab. It was attacked by Hezbollah, taking two prisoners."

The Associated Press departed from the official version as well. "The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its neighbor to look for them," reported Joseph Panossian for AP on July 12. "The forces were trying to keep the soldiers' captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli government officials said on condition of anonymity."

And the Hindustan Times on July 12 conveyed a similar account:

"The Lebanese Shi'ite Hezbollah movement announced on Wednesday that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. 'Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails, our strugglers have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon,' a statement by Hezbollah said. 'The two soldiers have already been moved to a safe place,' it added. The Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were captured as they 'infiltrated' into the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border."

Whether factual or not, these alternative accounts should at the very least raise serious questions as to Israel's motives and rationale for bombarding Lebanon.

MSNBC online first reported that Hezbollah had captured Israeli soldiers "inside" Lebanon, only to change their story hours later after the Israeli government gave an official statement to the contrary.

A report from The National Council of Arab Americans, based in Lebanon, also raised suspicion that Israel's official story did not hold water and noted that Israel had yet to recover the tank that was demolished during the initial attack in question.

"The Israelis so far have not been able to enter Aitaa al-Chaab to recover the tank that was exploded by Hezbollah and the bodies of the soldiers that were killed in the original operation (this is a main indication that the operation did take place on Lebanese soil, not that in my opinion it would ever be an illegitimate operation, but still the media has been saying that it was inside 'Israel' thus an aggression first started by Hezbollah)."

Before independent observers could organize an investigation of the incident, Israel had already mounted a grisly offensive against Lebanese infrastructure and civilians, bombing Beirut's international airport, along with numerous highways and communication portals. Israel didn't need the truth of the matter to play out before it invaded Lebanon. As with the United States' illegitimate invasion of Iraq, Israel just needed the proper media cover to wage a war with no genuine moral impetus.

 

[scentsofjannah]

would love some feedback from you Guyabano

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

To accept that Hizbollah is using human sacrifices one must accept that Israel is (the [insert word meaning evil] zionist regime) willing to kill them, proving that israel is evil.

a

They defend their people and country, that's the right of any country!

 

[[I:GM] Forum]

small excerpt

The TRUTH is that Hizbullah fights from their neighborhoods. They have no other option. After all, it is their country and they are defending it.

ISRAEL could invade the border with ground forces and attempt to attack Hizbullah selectively with very little Lebanese civilian casualties. But, that course of action results in high Israeli military casualties, which Israel is not willing to suffer.

Instead, they engage in a twisted racist and depraved cost/benefit analysis wherein they choose to KILL HUNDREDS of innocent Arab civilians by using overwhelming arial force rather than risk dozens of Israeli military lives.

continuation go here http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/human-shield-lie-exposed.html

im not so sure

 

[scentsofjannah]

Everyone has the right to defend their country , their honour, their dignity, their family, their loved ones..including the Israelis..but if we're to call ourselves religious people having a connection with the All Merciful, All Compassionate, EverWatching God..then we should know we shouldnt transgress the limits set by Him.

you donot defend your country by going into other countries like what Israel is doing now or what the U.S is doing in Iraq ..you dont travel halfway across the globe to do it..you do it from your land, you defend your borders, your seas, your airspace...thats the way it was done since time immemorial.

 

[scentsofjannah]

Red Cross says NO HEZBOLLAH rockets fired from QANA


MIDEAST:
'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana'
Dahr Jamail

QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air strike.

The Israeli military has said it bombed the building in which several people had taken shelter, more than half of them children, because the Army had faced rocket fire from Qana. The Israeli military has said that Hezbollah was therefore responsible for the deaths.

"There were no Hezbollah rockets fired from here," 32-year-old Ali Abdel told IPS. "Anyone in this village will tell you this, because it is the truth."

Abdel had taken shelter in a nearby house when the shelter was bombed at 1 am. When the bombings finally let up in the morning, he went back to the bombed shelter to search for relatives.

He found his 70-year-old father and 64-year-old mother both dead inside.

"They bombed it, and afterwards I heard the screams of women, children, and a few men -- they were crying for help. But then one minute after the first bomb, another bomb struck, and after this there was nothing but silence, and the sound of more bombs around the village."

Masen Hashen, a 30-year-old construction worker from Qana who lost several family members in the air strike on the shelter, said there were no Hezbollah rockets fired from his village. "Because if they had done that now, or in the past, all of us would have left. Because we know we would be bombed."

Qana had been a shelter because no rockets were being fired from there, survivors said. "When Hezbollah fires their rockets, everyone runs away because they know an Israeli bombardment will come soon," Abdel said. "That is why everyone stayed in the shelter and nearby homes, because we all thought we'd be all right since there were no Hezbollah fighters in Qana."

Lebanese Red Cross workers in the nearby coastal city of Tyre told IPS that there was no basis for Israeli claims that Hezbollah had launched rockets from Qana.

"We found no evidence of Hezbollah fighters in Qana," Kassem Shaulan, a 28-year-old medic and training manager for the Red Cross in Tyre told IPS at their headquarters. "When we rescue people or recover bodies from villages, we usually see rocket launchers or Hezbollah fighters if they are there, but in Qana I can say that the village was 100 percent clear of either of those."

Another Red Cross worker, 32-year-old Mohammad Zatar, told IPS that "we can tell when Hezbollah has been firing rockets from certain areas, because all of the people run away, on foot if they have to."

While IPS was interviewing people in Qana at the site of the shelter Monday, Israeli warplanes roared overhead. Vibrations from nearby bombing rattled many buildings. At least three villages in southern Lebanon were attacked in Israeli air strikes Monday.

Following the international outcry over the air strike, Israel declared a 48-hour cessation of air strikes in order to carry out a military probe into the Qana killings.

Despite the false Israeli statement that it was halting its air strikes, Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon told Army Radio that the stoppage "does not signify in any way the end to the war."

Israel has rejected mounting international pressure to end the 20-day-old war against Hezbollah. The United Nations has indefinitely postponed a meeting on a new peacekeeping force for southern Lebanon.

While defending the Israeli air strike on the civilians in Qana, Israel's ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman told the UN Security Council that Qana was "a hub for Hezbollah", and said that Israel had urged villagers to leave.

Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres said in reply to questions in New York Monday that the bombing was "totally, totally its (Hezbollah's) fault." (END/2006)
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=34186

 

[scentsofjannah]

IDF "No Rockets In Qana''

Israeli Defense Forces : "No Rockets In Qana"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/1/9336/35343 (includes Ha' retz news article)

Also check other links here http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/1/123442/5679

 

[scentsofjannah]

it a shame they fooled people like Heigou, Gerinimo, Guyabano , Keltoi etc

 

[guyabano]

it a shame they fooled people like Heigou, Gerinimo, Guyabano , Keltoi etc

 

[guyabano]

would love some feedback from you Guyabano

Well, feedback, well, how much you like?

First of all, I will not click on all those links, as they have absolutely no credibility. I just read newspaper websites, east as well as west to get a balanced impression. So, all what you write, pardon, copy/paste there is just waste of bandwidth. NOONE will ever read that, so why this effort ?
I exposed you to facts from real newspapers
Lara (who lives in Lebanon) give her real impression about the situation
I show up even some real pictures from hezbollah fighters sitting between civilians.

All what you bring up are crappy propaganda videos, NO pictures and bogus links.

Absolutely nothing to say ! ppfffffffffffffffffft ! hot air

 

[guyabano]

..and oh, since you love "YouTube" Videos (hmm, was it you?), I going to put on higher: Watch this and this

Now, I'm eager to know, what cartoon webpage you going to show me now !

 

[scentsofjannah]

its from mainstream newspapers are you going to reject that?? well do so if that means you sleep better at night.

taraa

 

[scentsofjannah]

..and oh, since you love "YouTube" Videos (hmm, was it you?), I going to put on higher: Watch this and this

Now, I'm eager to know, what cartoon webpage you going to show me now !

SKY news dealt with that video..its analyst said the video is of ANOTHER PLACE not anywhere near the building that got hit heres the website again feel free to contact them www.skynews.com

 

[scentsofjannah]

nice to see you also think the Red Cross workers and the villagers of Qana are liars not to mention the IDF