US Copter Down in Afghanistan
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Keltoi
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I apologize. People who talk about war like a football game disturb me.
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The U.S copter that came down crashing is a small victory, even if a ghust of wind brought it down it makes no difference.
Throwing words like that makes no difference.
Come on you was celebrating over a pint of carrot juice.
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You still didn't answer my question. Who is this a victory for?
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The believers.
Do I get an A?
Well whoever shot that copter down I will give him an A for good marksmanship.
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A victory for the "believers"? Belief in what? Death? No, I understand. Even though you have no idea who shot down the chopper, what they believed in, what their motivations were, etc, you still cheer their little "victory" because they probably attended a mosque at some point. Great. Clap for your victory. Then your heroes will probably be out tomorrow killing Shiites...another victory?
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The question has been answered although not to your liking.
Anyway, I think it was a great shot.
Anyway, I think it was a great shot.
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Maybe America has changed? My mother is an American and she doesn't want to be here. She's doing a reverse-immigration back to Sicily. I'm an American, and I don't want to be here. The only thing keeping me here is the state department. They don't want to release my passport so I'm grounded for the time being until I can figure out why. Just what makes you think everyone who lives here is doing so because they want to?
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Seems to me there were quite a few celebrations in the U.S. as well. Go ahead and cheer yourself on in your belief that you're preventing a civil war or that you're in some way helping the Shia... who will only turn around and open fire on Israel, later.
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Are you that much Simple Minded to believe a man was responsible for the attack and the only evidence that they have is a videotape which supposedly justified An invasion which led to other excuses which led to another invasion by the United States Government? Does that ever cross your mind?
So then how do you view war?
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I'm not even sure what you're saying. If I had to bet I would say you're referring to Osama Bin Laden and the War in Afghanistan? Not really sure what that has to do with the point about celebrating death.
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Celebrations of what?
I don't care about the Shia one way or the other, or the Sunni for that matter. I do hope a civil war can be avoided, for many reasons.
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I was kinda wondering that too
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If I have to give anyone an A, it would be Keltoi for being most sarcastic then a B Agnostic since he just copied.
All this left wing chat is making me sick. If your house was bombed, your family killed all for one man then I think you have the right to feel happy then an enemy is killed. Do not tell me what I have feel and what I can’t. If this was the other way round I am sure you would be jumping up and down in happiness then you hear this new. Nevertheless, your brains are as hard as rocks and cannot think any other way.
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You've made that point abundantly clear. Not sure what you're doing on a Muslim forum or why, seeing as you don't care about these people, you'd even care if they had a civil war, but I'm sure you have your reasons.
But you do have your surreal moments:
Keltoi Quote: One thing you do not want to see first thing in the morning before coffee is an Apache gunship with bad intentions.
It was amusing at the time only because I happened to be wearing a T-shirt that read: Just give me my coffee... and no one gets hurt. But if the people (yourself included) vye for one side or the other, the format is presented much like a football game. The fact that you're so satisfied about your "side" is disturbing, but I've grown accustomed to this from the Americans. I haven't had to deal with much of it from the various parties who are involved in the war. For the most part, the Sunnis in Iraq have asked questions like: What do you expect us to do? or What do you think we should do? or the infamous argument-ender: What would you do? And I have to admit, all three of these questions have me stumped.
They have produced, what I consider to be, justification for their various responses, but they have made it abundantly clear that they're open to advice. For this, they certainly have one up on President Bush, who has done nothing but refuse advice when it interferes with his agenda, regardless of who it comes from. They also have one up on the side-liners who seem to feel they're enjoying themselves.
And when I say I've grown accustomed to the Americans, I mean the civilians and the talking heads on TV. You don't get much of this from the soldiers themselves. In fact, some very substantial testimony has been published, that casts the U.S. involvement in Iraq in a very nasty light. But, much like President Bush, you're perfectly willing to ignore the bulk of it to protect his agenda.
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You know this is an interesting Post i will explain why. You stated "People getting killed doesn't make me happy." Typical answer considering i don't know your back round in war environments, Any SANE man who sees his family killed right in front of him and sees the men laughing and bragging to the world that they were terrorists would undoubtedly attack, unless you have so much love for your enemy that you put them first over your own wife, son and the rest of the family.
This similar situations had occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq. If you want evidence, Like i do 99 percent of the time i will provide evidence, but most likely you will reject.
isnt it interesting that some will rejoice that a US helicopter was shot down, supposedly, by unknown and at the same time, go to another thread and talk of a woman, that was supposedly raped for information, and talk of what a horrible incident it is? Is the killing of these people in the helicopter any worse than raping a woman? To me they are equally disgusting acts of violence, whether it is an act of war or not. The reason I say this is because the same men who did this could be in a village tomorrow raping someone or torturing someone or setting up a mass grave. So go ahead cheer for these people, those of you who cheer for them deserve to have them as your next leaders or militia men. Lets see how they treat you, apparently this whole region needs oppression and ruthless dictators because this is what happens when there is not one, the people are as bad as the dictators.
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