How to Make America an Islamic Nation ?

Keltoi said:
I assume by an "Islamic state", you mean one that is fair and just in its application of theocratic government. Unfortunately, one must be careful what one asks for. The history of theocracy hasn't been a good one.
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There is no chance. I would rather die than live in a Theocratic state.
And I am hardly alone. In addition, you may have noticed that the
VAST majority of immigrants to the USA are CATHOLIC. ROMAN CATHOLIC.

You truely imagine they will simply convert?

Your desire would cause civil war.
 
The probality that USA ill ever become islamic country is the same as probability that Saudic Arabia ever boceomes a christian majority country.
Let's better stop this funny dreams and wishfull wishes.
Lets be more realistic people.
Regards to all you.
 
Just deleted a buttload of off-topic posts. Iran, Iraq and WMD have about as much in common with the topic as Neo does with Mr T.
 
Of Course Vİa Educatİon Vİa Founding So Many Muslİm Schools In Amerİca
 
BBC , CNN ---these are anti-Muslim media , still they have shown news on how Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west ( i m sure , they did not like it at all )........how so many western people ( most of them are women & many religious figures ) became Muslims etc.

I don't remember any single news of Muslims prisoners or Imams in the west or SA are becoming Christians ....why is that ?
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I'm not sure about you, but if I was a Muslim in Saudia Arabia and then converted - I'd keep my mouth shut about it and make plans to leave as soon as possible.

And much of the increase of Islamic numbers is due to high birth rates.
 
We don't need to 'give up' our morals like the people of the other religions did, sorry. :) Because it ended up that they lost their religion in the process, and threw the scripture behind their backs.


Islaam means submission to God, and Islaam does not submit to the people - rather the people submit themselves to God.



Regards.
 
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Very soon InshAllah the whole western hemisphere will submit to Islam. As it happens the elders in the western society are very neglected or not acknowledged at all. When they die their ideals of westernism or christianity die with them. Leaving the younger generations in complete jahiliyah (state of ignorance), how long before that ignorance destroys them, and Allah willing most of them seek peace in the only place it can be found and thats in Islam.
I have seen white/black (non-muslims) people from school that I never really met after school until I saw a few of them turn up in the local mosques Mashallah. Islam is flourishing in the land of ignorance and social breakdown, the west.

Allah SWT knows best.
 
:wasalamex


That's really kool, and the praise is for Allaah due to that. Whoever is sincere to find out the purpose of their life - Allaah will guide them.


It reminds me of this hadith:


Allaah Almighty said:

“O My slaves, all of you are astray except those whom I guide, so ask Me for guidance, and I will guide you. O My slaves, all of you are hungry except those whom I feed, so ask me for food and I will feed you. O My slaves, all of you are naked except those whom I clothe, so ask Me for clothing and I will clothe you. … O My slaves, if the first of you and the last of you, your humans and your jinn, were to stand on a single plain and ask of Me and I were to give each one what he asked for, that would not cause any loss to Me greater than what is lost when a needle is dipped into the sea.”

 Narrated by Muslim (2577).
 
NobleMuslimUK said:
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Very soon InshAllah the whole western hemisphere will submit to Islam. As it happens the elders in the western society are very neglected or not acknowledged at all. When they die their ideals of westernism or christianity die with them. Leaving the younger generations in complete jahiliyah (state of ignorance), how long before that ignorance destroys them, and Allah willing most of them seek peace in the only place it can be found and thats in Islam.
I have seen white/black (non-muslims) people from school that I never really met after school until I saw a few of them turn up in the local mosques Mashallah. Islam is flourishing in the land of ignorance and social breakdown, the west.

Allah SWT knows best.
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You just miss that nowadays western christians make up minority among whole Christian Church. It is estimated that in 2025 western christians (USA,Europe,Australia,) will make up just 20 % of all christians in the world. The majority of christians will be those from Africa,Asia and Latin America.
Christian beliefe comes back to the place where it was born -to Asia, and also expanding fast in Africa( where is the biggest religion nowadays).
So christianity will survive without Europe, but will Europe survive without christianity? I am pessimist about that.
 
Aaron85 said:
You just miss that nowadays western christians make up minority among whole Christian Church. It is estimated that in 2025 western christians (USA,Europe,Australia,) will make up just 20 % of all christians in the world. The majority of christians will be those from Africa,Asia and Latin America.
Christian beliefe comes back to the place where it was born -to Asia, and also expanding fast in Africa( where is the biggest religion nowadays).
So christianity will survive without Europe, but will Europe survive without christianity? I am pessimist about that.
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I've seen the type of missionary work being done in asia and africa. You don't get true believers when you give food and aid in exchange for their faith.

A lecturers once said it best. These christians are going there to convert them while these people here are converting by themselves. Pretty soon we'll have poor, uneducated , provety based christians (africa/asia) and educated, well estabalished Muslims (west). So with these exchange for population of faiths, who comes out head?
 
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I really don't understand this.

Spend your time praying to Allah for the life he has given you instead of thinking how to make America an Islamic country.
 
TABS19 said:
I really don't understand this.

Spend your time praying to Allah for the life he has given you instead of thinking how to make America an Islamic country.
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Perhaps you should go read the very first article...
 
islamirama said:
I've seen the type of missionary work being done in asia and africa. You don't get true believers when you give food and aid in exchange for their faith.

A lecturers once said it best. These christians are going there to convert them while these people here are converting by themselves. Pretty soon we'll have poor, uneducated , provety based christians (africa/asia) and educated, well estabalished Muslims (west). So with these exchange for population of faiths, who comes out head?
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Ohh believe me that without western christians Europe won't be well established and powerfull, and educated. We created Europe's power. Without us it will be gone as well.Without us Europe will look like nowadays Pakistan, Morroco or Algeria.
 
Aaron85 said:
Ohh believe me that without western christians Europe won't be well established and powerfull, and educated. We created Europe's power. Without us it will be gone as well.Without us Europe will look like nowadays Pakistan, Morroco or Algeria.
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I think you are a bit mistaken. Europe power rose becuase of Islam and Muslims. while Europe was in the dark ages, Muslims were in golden era. Europeans burned books while Muslims translated them from greek and other languages as well as make advancements of their own. Islam helped europe get out of the dark ages. And US, well it is a child of europe, where else would it usher from?

Ever read A is for Arabs?
 
wilberhum said:
Exactly, Europe became powerful so they could throw out the invading Muslims.
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you're joking right?
Are you going to throw out your own citizens, do you even know Muslims are from all color and nationalities, including europeans and americans?
 
islamirama said:
I think you are a bit mistaken. Europe power rose becuase of Islam and Muslims. while Europe was in the dark ages, Muslims were in golden era. Europeans burned books while Muslims translated them from greek and other languages as well as make advancements of their own. Islam helped europe get out of the dark ages. And US, well it is a child of europe, where else would it usher from?

Ever read A is for Arabs?
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Well well i heard this story for dozens of time, but i am afraid that in this point you are mistaken dear islamirama.

First of all you pay too much attention to muslim influence on Europe, while it was more than 1000 years ago !
Of course Arabs translated Aristotle works from greek, and brought numbers invented in India(!) to Europe, but only this didnt make Europe such succesfull and well established nowadays.
Muslim influence on Europe took time more than 1000 years ago ! It wasnt greater than for example indian or chinise influence.
Its true that in very early medievel europeans were quite barbaric and not educated, but dear mister just look how those barbarians developed during the next ages !
You only look at what hapenned in very early middle ages, but see what hapenned in next years.
See that since 12 th and 13 th century europeans developed much more than muslim civilization.
Just look how dynamic and rich Europe was in 15 th, 16 th, 17 th, 18 th, 19 th century ! And what was the condition of muslim civilization then? Poor Rather.
I dont want to be rude but please remind me what muslims invented sighnificant during the last 1000 years? Why their development stopped so quickly?
And since middle ages, we westerners invented-

-Planes,
-Computers,
-Ships,
-Television,
-Radio,
-Internet,
-Laser,
-Cars,
-modern medicine and cures (we can transplant heart now!)
-Mobile phones,
-CD's,
-modern weapon( tanks,machine guns, rockets,),

Western world is represented by such people like-
Einstein,Beethoven,Mozart, Shakespeare,Leonardo da Vinci,
Michael Angelo,Bach,Copernicus,Dante,Machiavelli,Rafaello,Thomas More,Galileo Galilei,John Locke,Voltaire,Rousseau,Charles Darvin,Giuseppe Verdi,Pasteur,van Gogh !

It wasn't muslim people, they were all christians, europeans.

We sent man at Moon ! We flew to space !

We created modern science and philosophy.

Without us, Europe would never be such succesfull.
 

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