Is islam the fastest rowing religion? if in converts?

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Some people say that islam is the fastest growing religion cause that people choose to convert. But is that really how it is?

Everey where in the islamic world milions of christians and other people get this.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\05\12\story_12-5-2007_pg7_18

Iraqs zoroastrians have all been forced to convert to islam or get killed.

Then we got the number of child births, Lebanons christians have 2 children the muslims 10.

My point is can islam be growing cause of the wrong reasons? Cause i hear of a lot of ex muslims leaving islam.
 
I believe that is nearly impossible to prove in either direction. The best evidence is to understand that Islam as we know it, was revealed in Saudi Arabia. The initial followers were Arabs. Today less than 20% of the worlds Muslims are of Arab ancestry. there are revertions taking place somewhere along the line.
 
Yes islam is the fastest growing religion nowadays in world. But it is more due to high birth rates than converts.
Among muslim countries, just few,like Tunisia or Turkey, have birth rate lower than 2,1.
 
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Let there be no compulsion in religion:
Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. [Qur'an 2:256]​

To have hypocrites amongst the muslims is much more dangerous than to have non muslims as an opposition. Since the hypocrites can harm the muslims from the inside, whereas the clear enemy who opposes the muslims is less of a threat.

So the argument that Islaam encourages others to be forced into the religion falls dead on its face. :)
 
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My point is can islam be growing cause of the wrong reasons? Cause i hear of a lot of ex muslims leaving islam.

I know in south london the number of people embracing islam is high, one masjid had the average of one a day over two weeks of people researching raeding and then coming back, another mosque that I know is about 60% reverts. :statisfie

As for people leaving Islam theres always gonna be people leaving places or religions, but I doubt the number is anything like what it might claim to be, plus out of all those videos I have seen most of them leave because of most illogical reasons.
 
I know that it is not important , but actually the fastest growing religion by converts only, is christianity.
 
Aaron said:
But it is more due to high birth

Hi Aaron,

As a Christian can you tell me who you believe is blessing the Muslims with many children if not God? I don't see how it makes a difference whether Islam is growing by conversions or births, surely either way it is the will of God.
 
Hi Aaron,

As a Christian can you tell me who you believe is blessing the Muslims with many children if not God? I don't see how it makes a difference whether Islam is growing by conversions or births, surely either way it is the will of God.

I could say the same- that so many people in world become christians because it is God's will. :)
 
I know that it is not important , but actually the fastest growing religion by converts only, is christianity.

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proof?
 
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Let there be no compulsion in religion:
Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. [Qur'an 2:256]​

To have hypocrites amongst the muslims is much more dangerous than to have non muslims as an opposition. Since the hypocrites can harm the muslims from the inside, whereas the clear enemy who opposes the muslims is less of a threat.

So the argument that Islaam encourages others to be forced into the religion falls dead on its face. :)

I don't think you've quite proved your point there matey! :)
 
Aaron said:
I could say the same- that so many people in world become christians because it is God's will.

Sure, but it's always brought up when people talk about the growth of Islam, saying it's not because of conversions, it's because of birth rate, as if the children that God blesses us with don't really count.
 
I know that it is not important , but actually the fastest growing religion by converts only, is christianity.
yeah you can think of that, and when you wake up your cover sheet is at your feets. :D:D:D:p It is said "The wish is bigger than Istanbul".
The only thing you are trying now is to bring people and teach them about christianity so you can keep them busy and away from Islam, bc even your priests and pastors are turning to Islam. Every religion today in the world is feeling the threat from Islam, bc people are seeing the truth, they are fed with un-explained concepts and stuff like that.
The only people that leave Islam are the ones who don't have knowledge about Islam at all, or for political/economic reasons. No one else. It's impossible to know about Islam and have some healthy knowledge and leave it, only if the person is mentally challanged.
but not to forget that if Allah swt wants to misguide someone, no one can stop Allah swt even if you are a scholar, you will deviate from the truth, but may Allah makes us not among those who deviate. Ameen
 
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Sure, but it's always brought up when people talk about the growth of Islam, saying it's not because of conversions, it's because of birth rate, as if the children that God blesses us with don't really count.

Well, you must admit, there's a difference between believing in your particular faith solely because your parents told you "this is true", and choosing a faith once you're an adult?

The reason that Islam will be growing is because, conversely, the very poorest people breed the most (you need to have many kids, as most will die, and then you have some left to support you). In many societies Islam props up the usual patriachal (male-dominated) order, e.g. keeping women wrapped up, in the home, stopping them from entering the labour market, which of course keeps people poor: They are more likely to have kids - and as living conditions increase, they KEEP having kids - who then all survive - and so we end up with over population and even more poverty.
 
Sure, but it's always brought up when people talk about the growth of Islam, saying it's not because of conversions, it's because of birth rate, as if the children that God blesses us with don't really count.
true!
there is no denying that birth rate is not the only reason. judging by this forum and other muslims i've met on the web, there are plenty of people embracing islam.
 
true!
there is no denying that birth rate is not the only reason. judging by this forum and other muslims i've met on the web, there are plenty of people embracing islam.

Plenty of people used to buy Backstreet Boys albums too....

That was a joke for those who didn't know.
 
Well, you must admit, there's a difference between believing in your particular faith solely because your parents told you "this is true", and choosing a faith once you're an adult?

The reason that Islam will be growing is because, conversely, the very poorest people breed the most (you need to have many kids, as most will die, and then you have some left to support you). In many societies Islam props up the usual patriachal (male-dominated) order, e.g. keeping women wrapped up, in the home, stopping them from entering the labour market, which of course keeps people poor: They are more likely to have kids - and as living conditions increase, they KEEP having kids - who then all survive - and so we end up with over population and even more poverty.

Borborygmi:

What a masterful epidemiologist you are -- here are some basic facts about Muslim earnings in the U.S. should take care of how poor we are
also Most (covered up) Muslim women I know have a doctorate or equivalent pharmD.. how many Muslim women do you know?


Middle Eastern immigrants were highly educated, with 49 percent holding at least a bachelor's degree, compared to 28 percent of natives.

Median earnings for Middle Eastern men were $39,000 a year compared to $38,000 for native workers.

they tend to be better-educated than native U.S. residents — about half hold bachelor's degrees, compared to 28 percent of natives. They also perform as well economically as natives — 30- and 40-year-old Middle Eastern males with a college education have the same median income as natives, and Middle East immigrants are more likely be self-employed.




Middle Eastern Immigrants in U.S. Educated, Prosperous, Study Says
Gannett News Service, August 15, 2002

(Also ran in Arizona Republic - 8/15)

WASHINGTON — Middle Eastern immigrants in the United States are well educated, earn more money than most Americans and are predominantly Muslim, according to a report released Wednesday.

They also are among the nation's fastest-growing immigrant groups, according to the report issued by the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, a think tank that supports reducing the number of immigrants to the United States.

The report says the number of Middle Eastern immigrants increased from fewer than 200,000 in 1970 to almost 1.5 million in 2000. The overall number of foreign-born residents in the United States tripled to 31 million over the same period.

The report offers a rare portrait of an immigrant group that has received intense scrutiny and negative publicity since the Sept. 11 attacks.
Project MAPS, a survey of "Muslims in the American Public Square" conducted in 2001-2002 by researchers at Georgetown University, found that 86 percent of all Muslim professionals were concentrated in three careers: engineering, computer science, and medicine. Law, law enforcement, and politics accounted for a minuscule 0.6 percent. American Muslims, some demographers say, have also been voting well below their numbers in the population -- registering to vote at only half the national rate, according to the 2001 American Religious Identification Survey [PDF], a project of the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. "If they ever did play to their weight" in the electoral arena and in Washington, Muslims "would be a much more considerable force in public policy-making," says Steve Clemons, a Democrat who directs the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation in Washington.

http://www.wilsoncenter.org/topics/pubs/DUSS_Arab_America.pdf
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/mideastcoverage.html



peace!
 
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Well I think I dug up an article a while back which explained that religious folks are generally having more children than non-religious ones as a whole, which doesn't surprise me actually. Although I'm not going to pretend to be an authority on this, and people here should take this as they will, but religious folks do tend to be more family-oriented than irreligious ones. Many are the screeds from a religious point of view which stress the importance of a woman's place as a home maker that I have encountered and, while these are not necessarily demanded by the Bible or the Qu'ran or whatever, they still seem to have a substantial following amongst adherents to such beliefs.

What would be exceptionally interesting, though, and I will thank profusely the person who can find such an item, is a detailed socio-economic study of people who convert to any Abrahamic religion, and/or what factors led them to convert.
 
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