While it is true that to get a degree one needs to study and pass a test. And if being admitted to Jannah is like being admitted to the Bar to practice law, then this is a good analogy. But if being admitted to heaven is like being claimed as a member of God's family, then it has no relevance, for parents don't ask their children to do anything to become their children. They are automatically children by being born into it, or in other cases adopted into it. In the case of adoption, the judge makes that decision and it is done, no tests to pass, you just are. (And as regards the law of adoption, I speak from personal family knowledge.)
So, as on many other things, our views as to what we even mean by salvation, though we both use the same word, change the way we view what is and is not reasonable with regard to the process. For Muslims a test seems to be obligatory. For Christians a test would be anathema.
Ok let's use your analogy, if your dad is some kind of secret agent which is responsible for a thing that is held on a room, you as his son, do you get the right to enter in that place just bc it's your dad? no, you don't. even you are his son, he is the only one to access that room. So just bc you are his son does not change anything. Nor that you can get PhD bc your dad has one. You are their son, but u still need to workout . You can;t take human birth on a family as an analogy and not continue further. If you take the birth , you have to take it to the end. So if you are born within a family , you don't get the rights all the right just bc you were born in that family. How about the possibility that people leave their son/daughter on the hospital?? or somebody steals the kid, a muslim
?? where is the security of receving this "gift"???
I understand you have your opinions , and I have my opinions, but you and me have to work, we're not gonna recieve any such 'gift' as just believe and everything is done for us, this is a trick of Shaitan trying to lead people away from God, if God did a 'sacrifice' then why are we living anymore? why not justed asked a question and finish, and go to heaven??? we see that we live in a quite long period of time (depending to us), somebody 10 years, soemone 50 years, someone 80 years, all these years are just a space so you fill it with the answers to the tests you recieve, you are not going to finish 80 years of life with just a 'gift',by answering a yes or no question. No. Life is just a test, so the other world is a reward for those who passed the test. I'm sorry to say cuz you might be older than me, with all my respect, but don't be fooled with this type of tricks.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 475: Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari:
The Prophet said, "None is more patient than Allah against the harmful and annoying words He hears (from the people): They ascribe children to Him, yet He bestows upon them health and provision .
still Allah swt leaves options to u to think and reflect upon the signs. If I would be helping a person, and one day that person would tell a lie about me to the whole world that "I am an homosexual", I would be offended and and probably say to him "go away, i don't want to talk to u and i'm not gonna help u anymore", so would you and everyone else behave like this, most of the time. It's a common human nature. but u see Allah swt for centuries (of our time) has been watching people, and they have ascribed different types of partners to him, yet he bestowed mercy upon them, just by giving theem Oxygen, it's enough to reflect on the mercy of Allah swt.
And many protestant ministers are married. That doesn't mean that we don't sometimes have difficult decisions to make. This happened to me just 1 week ago.
Our wedding anniversary was on a Sunday. We wanted to celebrate it, but I had to preach that morning. Fine, plenty of people work on the day of their wedding anniversay, I could too. We also had an evening service, but we could go out and have a nice lunch together. So, that was the plan.
I walked into the house after church to put some things away while my wife waited for me in the car, I saw that we had a message on the answering machine and thought it was probably a call wishing us a Happy Anniversary from one of our kids. It wasn't. A teenager, a senior scheduled to graduate that afternoon, had died overngiht. We live in a very small town (5000 people) and thus a small school with a small graduating class where everyone knows each other. The principal was calling the pastors in town to ask us if we could be there to provide counseling for the kids who might not even learn about this tragedy until they arrived for what is usually a great big celebration. This time there would be a lot of unexpected grief to deal with. Could I meet with him at the school at 1:00 PM? It was 12:50 PM.
So, now I have a choice. I cannot be both husband and pastor at this particular point in time. I have to choose one over the other. And, your illustrations not withstanding, some people simply choose in advance that they want to avoid having to make that choice later as I had to on this occassion.
Hey
you got wedding anniversary .
Well in one way you told us that you were able to be dedicated for both, so your statement at the end that you cannot do both is wrong, bc u can do, and you already did one.
but as for being not married, to be 24 hours in the service of Lord, that's extreme.
Allah swt has taught us through His Messenger saws, how to live a life , a normal life where everything has its own right. what do I mean. we know that praying is a very important aspect in muslim's life, but praying all day, and doing nothing else, leaving the family without any income, not do any job, etc. is wrong. Prayer is very good, but it has its limits. That's why in Islam even sleep, is an ibadaah, you get reward if you go to sleep with the intention that you rest your body so you will be able to worship Allah swt tomorrow. Or you worship Allah swt by going to work, where you get your income to feed your family and take care of them. Everything in life , when it is done properly according to teaching of Muhammed saws, is worship to God, so each one has its on rights, its own time. You pray you read qur'an , you study, you sleep, you spend time with u'r wife, kids, etc etc. and as for being dedicated in one thing, and leaving all the other things in deficit, this is not worship, this is extreme, and the offspring of it is nothing. If you consume meat, vegetables , etc etc your body will be very healthy, but if you consume just meat meat meat, you gonna have lack of vitamins etc etc. so it's not the solution to be an extremist in worship God, cuz it leads to nothing. By fullfilling all your duites as a man, or someone as a woman, you fulfuill God's prescribed duties to u. so you please God in every aspect.
A priest, he doesn't get married, for me it is a "zullum" to him, zullum means "doing something bad to him", like you do zullum to someone by robbing someone who worked all day to earn some money, so the preiest is doing zullum to himself, not getting married is an awful thing, it's something that the human nature requires, to have some relationship with the opposite gendre. we see in this case the priest is on extreme, bc he is leaving the duties as a father, a husband , etc. just to fulfill some other duty, it's like cleaning your table in your room, but your closset or your bed is messed up. you have to clean all of them a little bit, so it becomes alltogether a cleaned room.
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