"Kill 1 million Arabs", says former Chief Jewish Rabbi

[barney]

Aye, senselessly killing Hamas leaders in cars.

Hamas defends palastine like a tiger by slaughtering their muslim opponents by the thousand and blowing up Israeli schoolbuses.

The suicide bomber's involved thought that the bus was a Merkerva Tank. Easy mistake really. Collateral damage honestly.

 

[Lina]

Aye, senselessly killing Hamas leaders in cars.

Hamas defends palastine like a tiger by slaughtering their muslim opponents by the thousand and blowing up Israeli schoolbuses.

The suicide bomber's involved thought that the bus was a Merkerva Tank. Easy mistake really. Collateral damage honestly.

Just like Isreali forces who shoot into residential areas and refugee camps.
Who are they fighthing against? children? women?

They have destroyed the infrastructure, thousands of palestinian homes.
They have made a normal life for palestinian civilians impossible.

And Allah knows best.

 

[rav]

Just like Isreali forces who shoot into residential areas and refugee camps.
Who are they fighthing against? children? women?

Shalom Lina,

I would say that they are indeed fighting Palestinian militants who deliberately hide in the camps. For example, the situation in Lebanon right now; Palestinian militants are firing at Lebanese soldiers and are taking up positions in heavily civilian populated areas. It is called a “strategy”, by forcing your enemy to make a choice of killing a man who has killed a few innocent civilians, but having to possibly kill innocents that he hides behind. Militants who hide behind children are cowards and are the ones that have blood on their hands.

Well Hamas is defending Palestine from the disgusting Israeli occupation and senseless killing

By blowing up a pre-school, or firing rockets at an old ladies car?

What can we say?

The article says it all.

Obviously it does not Lina. I invite you to read my earlier post on the subject.

 

[Amadeus85]

The same hapenned in Lebanon during last war, Hesbullah deliberately placed missiles and rockets launchers on civilians' houses, because they knew that when Israel destroyes those houses, world will condemn it and will think that Israel deliberatelly attacks civilians.

 

[islamirama]

The U.S. wants Arab governments to fight their global war on Islaam and Muslims for them

This is exactly the same strategy and tactic the Jews and their Western allies used in 1948 to turn Arab governments against Al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen and other Mujahideen in Palestine who came from many Arab states to fight the Zionist occupation. The propaganda put fear in the hearts of Arab leaders that the battle-hardened Mujahideen will go back to topple their regimes. Al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen were winning battles against the Zionist Jews in 1948 Palestine when they were rounded up and taken to prisons in Egypt .

Why would an Islamic resistance group like al-Qaa3idah open fighting fronts in Arab states? This is the mother of the divide-and-conquer tactics to turn State against Citizens in the Muslim World! governments

Al-Qaa3idah has only been operating against invading foreign forces in occupied Muslim lands, in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechenya , Somalia and now Iraq. Al-Qa3idah may have targeted foreign military presence in Saudi Arabia because the Messenger of Allaah (salla Allaah 3alaihi wa sallam) forbade their presence in Jazeerat Al-3Arab.

Muslims have not attacked the U.S. or any Western country. They only want the West to stay out of Muslim affairs and away from Muslim lands. The West, however, wants to extinguish Islaam and suffocate Muslim voices of Islaa7 and Da3wah in the Muslim World. And when they could not do so thru installed puppet regimes, spreading of vice and Western loose misguided lifestyles, they resorted to direct military occupation.

They can never fight us on their own. It is always by pitting Muslims against each other. They use Muslim governments to suppress knowledge and practice of Islaam among citizens, Afghanis to conquer Afghanistan , Iraqis to invade Iraq and Somalis to bring Ethiopian occupation of Somalia! When will we ever learn?

The Saudi ambassador to Beirut did not care that at least four Saudis were among 27 good Muslims killed by Lebanese army under Christian command. By contrast, look how non-Muslims value the safety and lives of their citizens:

Iraqi-U.S. troops seek kidnapped Britons

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070530/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Israel Hits Lebanon After Troops Snatched two Israeli soldiers
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8IQPH280&show_article=1

 

[islamirama]

Is this Sabra and Shatella again? Are the Lebanese prepared for another massacre against Palestinian refuges? Will the world stand by and watch helplessly again?

This is not about a bank robbery as they claim. The Lebanese government was acting on a tip from the U.S. to arrest Muslim fighters preparing to go to Iraq and to Palestine for jihaad. This looks like part of the so-called war on "terrorism" (meaning Muslim Mujahideen)!

Where was the Bush Administration's support for Lebanon in July 2006? The U.S. stood by while Israel bombed Lebanon for over thirty days and even rejected International calls for Israel to stop genocidal bombing.

Now, they are sending military supplies only to fuel a civil war (divide-and-conquer) and create the necessary chaos that will enable them and the Israelis to conduct bombings, raids, assassinations and kidnappings of Islamic resistance leaders and fighters. Civil war in Lebanon will also distract from the ongoing genocide in Iraq and weakens Syria so it cannot give any assistance to Iran if it was attacked.



TEARS FOR LEBANON Justice for Lebanon
http://justice4lebanon.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/news-roundup/

Hezbollah backs Lebanon army in standoff
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=World_News&subsection=Gulf%2C+Middle+East+%26+Africa&month=May2007&file=World_News2007052383311.xml

Protests in Lebanon refugee camps
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1C26BD88-9BD8-4274-BECC-8B5E054DF71E.htm

Crisis deepens as relief still not reaching besieged Palestinians
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6933.shtml

Reagan in diary calls Israeli 82 attack on Lebanon ' Holocaust'

http://tearsforlebanon.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/reagan-in-diary-calls-israeli-82-attack-on-lebanon-%E2%80%98-holocaust%E2%80%99/

 

[islamirama]

I"m posting these becuase as usual the kuffars here diverted the topic to against Muslims from the real topic, a jewish rabbi representing Israel calling for the death of 1 million arabs. A extremists and terrorist that is given air time and audience to call for hate. Why isn't he a terorrist suspect and shipped to gitmo? why isn't any kuffar condeming him? Are all kuffars hypocrites and double standard like their leaders?

Comments:

I didn't even know Lebanon had a "military"! Or, was it raised from the dead? Wow! What a military, if they have only been awakened during the Israeli invasion.

These cowards! Where was the Lebanese army when the Israelis invaded and bombed their country into rubble for more than 30 days? They are only brave against their own and especially against Muslims.

This is obviously a government and a military that only act on orders from Washington or Paris to protect their interests in the area. It is also obvious that this is part of the war on terrorism waged by the "King of Terrorism" ( U.S.A.) using the armed forces of many countries as extensions to their own military. It is no surprise after the praise and protection the current Lebanese government has been receiving from the West.

It has become justifiable to commit genocide against any group of humans so long as they fall under the banner of "al-Qa3idah". Why would Al-Absi tell the New Yourk Times that he was trying to spread al-Qaida's ideology and was training fighters inside the camp for attacks on other countries .

It is supposedly an international crime to bomb buildings and civilian structures!

 

[Zman]

/Peace To All

"I Decided To Murder An Arab"

Tel Aviv Man Confesses To Murdering Arab Taxi Driver

By Roni Singer-Heruti,
Haaretz Correspondent
Last update - 23:02 14/05/2007
Haaretz

A recent immigrant from France residing in Tel Aviv confessed Monday to the murder of a 35-year-old Arab taxi driver, whose body was found in the city earlier in the day.

The body of the East Jerusalem man was discovered in an apartment on Yona Hanavi Street on Monday afternoon. His throat had been cut, and his body bore the signs of a severe attack.

A preliminary police investigation revealed that the dead man had been invited to the apartment by the 25-year-old Israeli, who also holds French citizenship.

Police were first alerted to the murder when officers from the traffic department noticed two men loitering in the center of Allenby Street in Tel Aviv, at approximately 4 P.M. Monday.

When the two, the suspect and his 21-year-old brother, were detained for routine questioning, the 25-year-old confessed to having killed the cab driver in his apartment, and led police to the scene of the crime.

The motive behind the murder seems to be nationalistic, as the suspect said that he had killed the taxi driver over his Arab nationality.

Neighbors said that the suspect had recently become religious and would regularly attend a local synagogue.

Following the suspect's confession, police asked him to lead them to the apartment. "When he opened the door we found the body of a man. I immediately turned around and handcuffed him," said one of the arresting policemen.

...The initial investigation revealed that victim's throat had been slit, and that he was a taxi driver. His cab was found parked outside the building on Yona Hanavi St.

...It became clear from the beginning of the investigation that murderer and victim had no prior relationship.

The victim turned out to be an Arab from East Jerusalem, and the suspect is a young Jewish man who recently became religious.

For this reason we suspected that there was a nationalist motive behind the murder," said the head of investigations at Yarkon District Police.

The suspect and his brother were then taken to a police station for questioning, and it became evident to investigators that the murder was premeditated.

"I decided to murder an Arab," the suspect told police.

"We understand that [the suspect] arrived in Jerusalem with the objective of killing an Arab. We don't know if he made his plans two hours or two weeks before the murder, but there is definitely evidence that there was planning and thought behind it," said Commander of Yarkon District Police Brig. Gen. Hagai Dotan.

"When they arrived at the apartment in Tel Aviv, the suspect shrewdly persuaded the victim to go up the apartment," an investigating officer said. Once in the apartment, the suspect attacked the victim with a knife and stabbed him to death. It seems that the had been prepared ahead of time. The suspect rented the apartment on Yona Hanavi St. two months ago. He had been living there with his wife, who seems to have left at some point.

MK Ahmed Tibi (Ra`am-Ta`al) said in response to the murder that "an atmosphere of incitement, hatred of Arabs, and the escalating racism in the country are fertile soil for this crime," and added that " the court will probably find mitigating circumstances for the murderers."

Source:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/859447.html

 

[rav]

I"m posting these becuase as usual the kuffars here diverted the topic from against Muslims the real topic, a jewish rabbi representing Israel calling for the death of 1 million arabs. A extremists and terrorist that is given air time and audience to call for hate. Why isn't he a terorrist suspect and shipped to gitmo? why isn't any kuffar condeming him? Are all kuffars hypocrites and double standard like their leaders?

The thing is that we do condemn them. The only people trying to justify violence becaise of violence is you and few other Muslims.

Read my post, I explained what happend with the Rabbi, yet your ignorance refuses to even respond or think that you may not have the entire story. It is you being naive.

This was my post:

This Rabbi has many political enemies, so Jewish sources may not always be the best to get it from either, however, from my understanding of what the Rabbi said, was the analogy that if The state of Israel by rockets was ever threatened to be destroyed such as by a nuclear bomb or deadly gas bombs etc, than it would be okay by religious law to destroy all the Palestinians before all the jews in Israel were killed.

So in effect what he is saying, is that If 100 people are at risk in israel by a bomb that will be launched, and 100 Palestinians are in a building where it is to be launched in two minutes, what should Israel do? Well his opinion is the terrorists know what they are doing launching from areas with a dense population, and Israel must protect its own citizens.

For example; If A Nuclear Weapon was launched from somewhere in New York city to Mecca, and you knew about it. As a Muslim, are you destroying New York City before the launch the bomb which destroys Mecca or do you sit there inactive? Now lets say that New York has already launched bombs into Mecca but none Nuclear, and now the Nuclear one is coming. If its either Mecca or New York, I have no doubt 99% of Muslims destroy all of NY to save there own.

Of course, this Rabbi's opinion is very extremist like, and being "Chief Rabbi" means nothing since the current Chief Rabbi is no more than a puppet, and is actually in no position to make any judgments in Jewish Law. Example: the current Chief Rabbi; Rabbi Metzger: Metzger has been seen as a controversial figure since his original election as Chief Rabbi. Many saw his election as having more to do with Israeli politics than religion. Metzger, who is not considered a halachic authority, is largely acquiescent to the rulings of Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashiv, a powerful figure in the Ashkenazi haredi community. Metzger is not recognised a posek and lacks the moral authority of his predecessor, Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau. There is evidence suggesting that Metzger's election was orchestrated by Eliashiv, who wished to install a weak Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi as well as embarrass the NRP, whose candidate, Yaakov Ariel, had been expected to win the appointment.

But either way, I would expect Muslims to understand that in many cases you will have extremist clergy who urge to kill before seek peace. Islam has more than enough of them, and there is no denying Judaism has their fair share.

"I Decided To Murder An Arab"

Tel Aviv Man Confesses To Murdering Arab Taxi Driver

When did any Jew ever say Jewish people do not Murder? One man does not represent every Jew.

Arabs have murdered Jews as well, yet who says all Arabs are murderers?

This is exactly the same strategy and tactic the Jews and their Western allies used in 1948 to turn Arab governments against Al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen and other Mujahideen in Palestine who came from many Arab states to fight the Zionist occupation.

I'm sorry but I had to laugh. All the Arab goverments were attacking Israel in 1948, all the "Muslimeen" were coming from all over the Arab world, and instead of killing every Jew in the land, you were utterly defeated. Talk about historical revisionism.

 

[islamirama]

I'm sorry but I had to laugh. All the Arab goverments were attacking Israel in 1948, all the "Muslimeen" were coming from all over the Arab world, and instead of killing every Jew in the land, you were utterly defeated. Talk about historical revisionism.

They had every right to do that and still do today. When a nation is being taken over and divided up to create room for outsiders against the will of that nation of people than it is nothing less than an occupation and crime. The Muslimeen came from a few arab nations who attacked, who were poorly equiped from a dieing ottomon empire. There are no "Muslimeen coming from all over the world" as you or ignorantly state. And the reason they were defeated was thanks to US shipping state of the art weapons, planes, and tanks among other stuff to fight. Even monkeys can become king of the jungle if you give them guns.

 

[Lina]

Shalom Lina,

I would say that they are indeed fighting Palestinian militants who deliberately hide in the camps. For example, the situation in Lebanon right now; Palestinian militants are firing at Lebanese soldiers and are taking up positions in heavily civilian populated areas. It is called a “strategy”, by forcing your enemy to make a choice of killing a man who has killed a few innocent civilians, but having to possibly kill innocents that he hides behind. Militants who hide behind children are cowards and are the ones that have blood on their hands.

No, they are not.
Many of palestinians were killed in armed confrontation, the majority however were not, these were unarmed civilians.
They were killed as a result of reckless shooting, air strikes etc. in these areas.
Even if militants could be hiding in camps, they should target them alone if they are out to cause harm, they should not use 'war strategies' when innocent civilians are involved.
They have done this many times.
There is no way to justify the killing of innocents.
If GWB can find Saddam Hussein, the isreali force can find their guy hiding in refugee camps. No excuses.
Stategy or no strategy, I do believe that even in war there are rules, and so far they have violated human rights and will be held accountable, we all will.

By blowing up a pre-school, or firing rockets at an old ladies car?

Or by shooting at unarmed demonstrants who speak up against oppression?

Obviously it does not Lina. I invite you to read my earlier post on the subject.

And that's why The Almighty knows best, as I said in my two earlier posts.

Thanks for replying, I respect your opinion.

 

[Zman]

/Peace To All

Little Ahmadinejads

By Gideon Levy
Sun., June 10, 2007
Sivan 24, 5767
Haaretz

Ram Caspi has written an article. From the heights of his apartment in Tel Aviv's David Towers, the prominent lawyer has suggested strangulating the Gaza Strip.

In the financial daily Globes of May 25, he called for,

"neither a land incursion nor an aerial attack, but the creation of a noose ... From the moment that rocket number eight is fired, the government of Israel will act to cut Gaza off from the essential infrastructure systems of fuel, water, electricity and telephones, and will prevent others from providing these utilities to Gaza."

In other words: to cut a million and a half people off from the sources of life.

...Not a hair on his head has been mussed as a result of his satanic proposal. This man of the law who incites for the violation of international law has not been chastised. No one has shunned him in the wake of his words.

The season for racism, collective punishment and verbal violence is at its height.

What was once the reserve of nutcases on the right, the talkbackers and the loony listeners to the call-in radio programs, is now politically correct, in the heart of the consensus, the dernier cri in the violent and overheated Israeli discourse.

Caspi is not alone. Satan is no longer to be found only in Tehran --- he is alive and kicking here in our midst.

Israel is being inundated by a murky stream of little blue-and-white Ahmadinejads:

If the president of Iran proposes to destroy Israel, they, who are smaller than he, are proposing only to "eradicate" villages, "flatten" them, starve entire populations and in fact to kill them.

There is no difference, in principle or morally, between the Iranian original and his Israeli imitators.

The racist and bullying philosophy of Minister of Strategic Affairs Avigdor Lieberman and his ilk has unleashed its malignant tentacles into the heart of society.

Meir Kahane, who made proposals more moderate than these, found himself shunned; Caspi continues to advise the top people in the country on legal matters.

This ugly and appalling phenomenon had its beginnings last summer, during the Second Lebanon War.

"We are allowed to have another Kfar Kana, we are allowed to destroy everything," said the justice minister at the time, Haim Ramon, the man who was in charge of maintaining the law.

Trade and Industry Minister Eli Yishai, a representative of a religious party that has a "spiritual" leadership, did not lag behind him: He proposed targeting infrastructure in Lebanon and "flattening" villages.

These two calls to commit war crimes did not emerge from the mouths of representatives of the extreme right.

Ramon and Yishai have remained legitimate spokesmen.

Nor did the generals keep quiet: "Grind Lebanon. Turn it into a museum of the incubation of terror," proposed a former chief of Northern Command headquarters, Brigadier General (Res.) Rafi Noy, a desired interviewee in the studios.

"If not the roof beams, destroy the foundations ... Attack Lebanon and also Gaza with plows and with salt, destroy them so no inhabitant remains. Transform them into barren desert, piles of rubble ... kill them, spill their blood, frighten the living," wrote poet Ilan Scheinfeld, who has recently published a novel whose boycott no one has called for.

Former chief rabbi Mordechai Eliahu has called for returning fire on homes;

Minister of Pensioner Affairs Rafi Eitan has proposed that Israel manufacture a domestic version of the Qassam and launch it on Gaza;

Public Security Minister Avi Dichter has said that targeted assassinations are not enough;

his successor at the Shin Bet security service, Yuval Diskin, has complained that "in Beit Lahiya and in Beit Hanoun they are living in tranquility;"

our old acquaintance Lieberman has proposed a hit on the quarter where Gaza City's well-off reside for every hit on Sderot;

Major General (Res.) Amiram Levin has called for dividing the Gaza Strip into squares, and after every Qassam destroying one;

former justice minister Yosef Lapid supported this proposal;

former chief of staff Moshe Ya'alon, the progenitor of the theory of "consciousness-searing," has proposed "cleansing the territory;"

Sderot Mayor Eli Moyal has said that he prefers "a dead child in Gaza to a dead child in Sderot,"

and a bereaved father from the Second Lebanon War, Ami Schreier, has called for the wiping out of a neighborhood in Gaza, with advance warning of three hours, for every Qassam.

Not one of them has been castigated for his words, not one of them shunned.

This is what we look like. This is our moral portrait.

Source:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/868829.html

 

[barney]

Why isn't he a terorrist suspect and shipped to gitmo? why isn't any kuffar condeming him? Are all kuffars hypocrites and double standard like their leaders?

]

I'll condem him. He's a Idiot, should be sacked and imprisoned for enciting racial hate and abuse of his position. I'd happily hold a snarling dog on a leash near him and show him pictures of women in swimwear.

 

[rav]

It seems like all the non-Muslims including me have condemned him... however, many Muslims refuse to condemn the same violence Hamas promotes. I assume that no one is so naive as to believe it is fair that Hamas blow up 2 year old babies and call for mass genocide of Jews, yet the Jews if they might defend themselves are the "evil" ones.

 

[SATalha]

It seems like all the non-Muslims including me have condemned him... however, many Muslims refuse to condemn the same violence Hamas promotes. I assume that no one is so naive as to believe it is fair that Hamas blow up 2 year old babies and call for mass genocide of Jews, yet the Jews if they might defend themselves are the "evil" ones.

Yes the type of violence used by Hamas is not right. This is true, but we keep saying that we need to go to the root of the problem and that is Israeli occupation (or partial occupation) of 3 nations. Look what this guy has said is clearly a statement becuase it has no ligitimacy, in the sense that Israel are the occupiers. What right does he have in making these comment and what right do Hamas have in crossing over to Israel and killing innocents? The fact is Israel have shot themselves in the foot by occupying this land, the violence that comes their way, is of thier own making. STOP the occupation= STOPS the violence.

 

[rav]

Yes the type of violence used by Hamas is not right. This is true, but we keep saying that we need to go to the root of the problem and that is Israeli occupation (or partial occupation) of 3 nations. Look what this guy has said is clearly a statement becuase it has no ligitimacy, in the sense that Israel are the occupiers. What right does he have in making these comment and what right do Hamas have in crossing over to Israel and killing innocents? The fact is Israel have shot themselves in the foot by occupying this land, the violence that comes their way, is of thier own making. STOP the occupation= STOPS the violence.

I'll agree with you that they need to get out of the Gaza strip and West Bank as well, but if you refer to the "occupation" as pre-1967 Israel as well than I will have to strongly disagree. Let me ask you, if Israel left right now, do you understand the anarchy that would take place in the West Bank? yes you would be free of occupation, but basic things that the Palestinians do not have the experts to run would be abandoned.

 

[barney]

I think everyones seen footage of Hamas shooting out from crowds of civilians.

I do recall a Israeli Airstrike that was about 20 seconds away from launching and they called it off because swarms of civilians stood on the terrorists roof.

Anyway, as I say , put this extremist in jail and for gods sake dont let him have control of the IAF.

 

[SATalha]

I think it is well clear that Israel is staying in the M.East. Why would there be anarchy? Simple
Leave Palestine
Instill Democracy
Hamas will win (Allah knows best)
Hamas will rule palestine, with no outside pressure and power sharing
Peace In Al-Quds

People tend to forget that Hamas although they have a stained image, they do many charity work and have set-up mediacal facilities, schools, Masjids etc

All iam saying is that this movement has the potential from being what it is now, to something better. They need to be given a chance, but the fact that they do not kneel to you-know-who makes them a problem. Wouldnt you agree?

 

[HBot 5000]

I am not surprised by that statement

 

[mariam.]

The same hapenned in Lebanon during last war, Hesbullah deliberately placed missiles and rockets launchers on civilians' houses, because they knew that when Israel destroyes those houses, world will condemn it and will think that Israel deliberatelly attacks civilians.

Hey .. who tell these LIE?

the western media? If you want really to know the truth .. check out the authentic provenance.

Preparations for Israel's war in Lebanon last summer were drawn up at least four months before two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped by Hizbullah in July, Ehud Olmert, the prime minister, has admitted.

who start first shoulder the responsibility of All these WAR .. the logic said that.