Arabs=God's chosen people?

[August]

Well, are they? Muslims say that Islam is a religion for everybody, yet Muslim prayers are always in Arabic, Arabic is the holy language, the Qur'an can only be truely understood in Arabic. So, I'm curious. Do Muslims hold the Arabs as some kind of special people, or did everything I mention arise just because Muhammad was an Arab?

 

[Bittersteel]

its the Jews who are God's chosen people,aren't they?

 

[doorster]

Well, are they? Muslims say that Islam is a religion for everybody, yet Muslim prayers are always in Arabic, Arabic is the holy language, the Qur'an can only be truely understood in Arabic. So, I'm curious. Do Muslims hold the Arabs as some kind of special people, or did everything I mention arise just because Muhammad was an Arab?

Arabic is no holier than Aramaic or Hebrew were.

As for Holy Quraan not being Quraan any longer when translated, just look at what you did to Holy Bible! Your translation after translation turned it in to joke. Look at what your translations did to Hazrat Eesa Alaislam!

Now He PBUH is hardly any different to Zeus the Greek god

In Islam no race of people is superior to another, you have been on this forum long enough to have read that many times. dang trolls same things over and over and over. It is a never ending story.

 

[E'jaazi]

Well, are they? Muslims say that Islam is a religion for everybody, yet Muslim prayers are always in Arabic, Arabic is the holy language, the Qur'an can only be truely understood in Arabic. So, I'm curious. Do Muslims hold the Arabs as some kind of special people, or did everything I mention arise just because Muhammad was an Arab?

Muslims do not hold Arabs to be special. Arabs hold Arabs to be special, and that goes against the teachings of the Prophet (Salallahu Alayhe wa Sallam).

 

[August]

In Islam no race of people is superior to another, you have been on this forum long enough to have read that many times. dang trolls same things over and over and over. It is a never ending story.

Actually no, I haven't seen this on the forum before. I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone. What prompts the question is something I read by V. S. Naiupal (Spelling?) who contends that to become Muslim is to become part of the Arab story, in a similar fashion as to how Judaism is inseperable from the Jews as a people.

 

[Bittersteel]

Indian crap isn't it?if Islam requires us to be like Arabs stuff like wearing the skullcap ,Arab dress(which westerners call Islamic dress)would have been mandatory.I admit some Muslims regard these as mandatory.

 

[vpb]

Arabs stuff like wearing the skullcap ,Arab dress(which westerners call Islamic dress)would have been mandatory.I admit some Muslims regard these as mandatory.

who said the clothes (that arabs wear) and skullcap are mandatory???

 

[north_malaysian]

Zillions of Muslims wear western clothes..... are we Arabized?:exhausted

 

[Muslim Woman]

With the name of ALLAH ( God Almighty ) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful

Salaam/ peace ;

Well, are they?

no , there is no verse in Quran that says Arabs are superior than non-Arabs. If u read Quran , u will find that God says ( not the exact words ) , best among u is s/he who is a God fearing person.

Prophet Muhammed (p) said in his last sermon that , Arab has no superiority over non-Arab , White has no superiority over black & the vice versa.

Islam is for all. All holy books came to the Prophets (pbut ) in their languages . So , as Muhammed (p) was an Arab , Quran came in Arabic. To understand the Quran fully , it's better if we read the main book . But , as most Muslims are non-Arabs , we take help of the translation.




Verses of the day & night –
No want of proportion will you see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious.


So turn your vision again: See you any flaw? Again turn your vision a second time:


(Your) vision will come back to you dull and discomfited, in a state worn out.(Al-Mulk 67:3-4)

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

we consider the arabic language to be special and anyone born with it to be honored but we dont cosider the arabs as a whole superior in anyway over others.

islam is clear when it confines superiority to the conciousness of Allah, whoever is concious of Allah more is superior then the one who is less concious of Allah

i hope that answers your question

 

[gladTidings]

I personally think that there is wisdom behind Allah making Muhammad an Arab.

Yeah i agree with you there.. I also think within this there is an additional test for the Arabs; as they may easily fall into pride, arrogance and inconsideration. They have a greater responsibility to understand and help their fellow non-arab muslims to better their understanding of the arabic language.


To answer August's question:

The Prophet (saw) eliminated all wrong superiority’s: territorial, tribal, linguistic, racial. He (saw), declared: ‘No Arab is superior over an non-Arab, no non-Arab is superior over an Arab. No white is superior over a black, no black is superior over a white. All these superiority’s are man-made. Only superiority is that of piety, human conduct and moral behaviour.’
(Bukhari)

 

[vpb]

I personally think that there is wisdom behind Allah making Muhammad an Arab. I don't think it was just randomly picked. What the wisdom is, I am not too sure, does it mean the arabs are betters or regarded higher, I don't think so.

I don't think there was any richer language than arabic or any language that reached the highest point at the time when Qur'an was revealed.

but Allah swt says in the Qur'an:

Surah Shua'ra
192. Verily this is a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds:
193. With it came down the spirit of Faith and Truth-
194. To thy heart and mind, that thou mayest admonish.
195. In the perspicuous Arabic tongue.
196. Without doubt it is (announced) in the mystic Books of former peoples.
197. Is it not a Sign to them that the Learned of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)?
198. Had We revealed it to any of the non-Arabs,
199. And had he recited it to them, they would not have believed in it.

 

[vpb]

If prayers would be in everyone's language, I wonder how could I be able to pray after a Pakistani, learn Urdu, and then after a German, and learn german, and then after a spanish , and learn spanish.........I would have to learn so many languages, to understand, so we just learn arabic, everyone, and when we do the prayers, everyone is concentrated in just one language, a universal prayer language .

That's why english language is used for business in the world, but it doesn't mean we are english, it's just we use it as universal business language. Or here in forum, bc we learn all the same language and we communicate. Are we english?

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

^ the best defence of our beloved nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallaam at times is a polite refutation in affirmation of his teachings. Only when a fatwa is given can we go further... this is my little understanding, is it wronG?

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

Qur'an 49:13

O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allah is the most pious. Verily, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.


The Prophet said: 'There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a non-Arab over an Arab, nor for a fair-skinned person over a person with dark skin, nor for a dark-skinned person over a person with fair skin. Whoever is more pious and God-fearing is more deserving of honour.' (Musnad Ahmad)

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[Bittersteel]

who said the clothes (that arabs wear) and skullcap are mandatory???

exactly that's what I meant,they aren't.

 

[no1_outbider]

Salaams!

The issue here is that allah (SWT) says that the quran is put in the best
language arabic,arabic being the orignal language of quranic;makes it
holy language.

But as for this very specific rase having proirity over others is
someting irrelevant!

 

[doorster]

Salaams!

The issue here is that allah (SWT) says that the quran is put in the best
language arabic,arabic being the orignal language of quranic;makes it
holy language.

But as for this very specific rase having proirity over others is
someting irrelevant!

What about the earlier non Arab Prophets? Were their languages holy or unholy?or less holy than Arabic?Won't the Arabs by virtue of speaking a holy language become special people?

To me Personally Arabic is no more than a language! And It is Quraanic text that is sacred to me

This reminds me about the story of a Pakistani fellow who was pushed aside by an arrogant Arab, and when the Pakistani fellow angrily said are you blind? the Arab started to curse and swear at him in Arabic, the Pakistani bowed his head in shame and started to apologize endlessly saying "what a holy person this Arab is, I shout at him and he is reciting at me!.

Once at Islamabad Airport I looked at a fellow, admiringly, thinking what a face, full of noor and so beautiful a beard, until he said, in Arabic, "what are you staring at paki begger, f*** off"!



I wondered, how many onlookers must have thought I had just been blessed in holy language?

 

[Makky]

some verses from the Quran

“O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allaah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa [i.e. he is one of the Muttaqoon (the pious)]. Verily, Allaah is All-Knowing, All Aware”
[al-Hujuraat 49:13]


“Whoever works righteousness — whether male or female — while he (or she) is a true believer (of Islamic Monotheism) verily, to him We will give a good life (in this world with respect, contentment and lawful provision), and We shall pay them certainly a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do (i.e. Paradise in the Hereafter)” [al-Nahl 16:97]


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click here for more : The most honoured of you with Allaah is the one who is the most pious

 

[vpb]

This is why Prophet saws said to leave nationalism cuz it's rotten.