You're right Gul is better than the others, everyone should pray that he comes to power and turns this land of evil acts back into an islamic state, its a muslim country and yet woman are kicked out of schools and unviersitys for wearing hijaab, people drink freely on the streets and still claim they are muslim, these 'muslims' need to get rid of their freestyle thinking and get their beleifs straight.
People don't mind turkish people being muslim but if they practise their beliefs, they won't be allowed to join the eu!
salams..
i think this thread has made it quite clear that no, turkey is not filled with all the non islamic acts it appears to be overriden with.so i will not bother to lecture on that....
you state that you prefer Gul to the others due to his will to turn turkey or 'land of evil acts' into an islamic state...
my friend...just because Gul is capable (in ur opinion) of turning turkey into an islamic state, it does not mean that it is his will to do so...i think youve skipped the point. the whole idea is that he is not trying to create an islamic state...thats not what he wants for turkey...noone wants that for turkey, especially turks.you can secure an islamic democracy with no need for the reinstitution of a calipahate.
he was the foreign affairs minister for years...what you imply with your idea of islamic state building is an isolationaist approach...turkey doesnt want that.turkey wants to prosper and move further into the western world, intact to its islamic identity.
we have established that Gul is "tolarent,kind,calm,tries to keep logic,,and still young..."-- again...who cares...so is my dad...
can we please remember that we are trying to debate whether or not Gul is a favourable leader for a very important country and nation...he is a rational thinker, he is fluent in english, he is well educated, he is a competent leader, he is a strategic and systematic practicioner of foreign law and order...he has a persuasive and mature speech pattern, he is ideologically set and opinionated, yet not proud enough to run down other peoples ideas...
thats what counts...not the fact that he is kind and looks good on tv.
about turks practicing their religion and thus not being able to enter the EU...my friend...you need to realise that the EU is not a toy or game. they are serious in what they do and what they want and if they beieve that they can benefit from turkey, theyw ill allow them to join regardless of the practices within...i agree to a certain extent with what u are tryin to say...
"especially turks who lives in some other countries ,dont practice islam generally,,unfortunately..."----Brother Abdilhan...hakkini helal et ama, i beg to differ...i understand that the general understanding in Turkey is that the turks in germany and europe and australia etc lose their identity...but in terms of practicing islam...they are as willing to prcatice as possible under the circimstances of the place in which they live....the ones which forget...it is barely their fault in most cases.
turks in turkey have the freedom to practice and enjoy their religion and hear the ezan five times a day etc...except secular laws such as the hijab, but in other countries, lets not forget that they are never reminded of their religion. never. there is no way of thinking about your religion.they are not priveleged with the facilities that the turks in turkey are...i know turks in other countries who need to pray in toilets and rubbish dumps...i know some who forget it was prayer time...i know some who have never probably seen anyone wearing a hijab in their lives...so lets not be unfair please.
i think that is all i wanted to say...sometimes we need to get over ourselves and the fact that we very patriotic about being turk and try and actually show and justify it in what we say...
that is all.
w/s.
