Hezbollah declares Open War on Israel

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Correction they call it a defeat. Once and for all, accept it.

Haha, don’t worry I don’t need to go to “Israel” to see what they do. You mean the wide corruption they have? I suggest you open haaretz and ynet news to see their “wonderful society. Do you mean their former president who got away with his sexual harassment? How about Oulmert who most of the Israelis don’t want him but he sticks to the PM chair like glue? How about Sharon’s corrupt children and their thievery? Or Dan Halutz who sold stocks before the 2006 war?

You mean that society? Wow yes I should learn from those. I should learn from them the “love” they show to the Palestinians. I should learn from them their love towards Arabs.

Sure I need to learn something from them.

I told you before don’t change my views. I don’t hate Jews. I’m against Zionists and Israelis because of their actions and they don’t have to be from a certain religion or race obviously.

I know my enemy :)



Why are you repeating questions? I answered that. I also don’t have patience to go back and look it up.

So what if they have international support that means they are right? Wow, that’s nice, did you tell that to the prophet (asw) when all of Qurish were against him how about the ahsab?

Yes we should quake in our boots because of this, I’m so scared now!

Pffft!

Sure, you aren't scared because you're safely back at home in front of a computer...probably somewhere in the West. You aren't special though, there are plenty of people cheerleading for violence half a world away.
 
Im sorry to say this but american and israel have turned the world upside down although most americans would disagree im sure keltoi would do the same, i understand that if my country caused oppression like america it would be kind of hard for me to acknowlegde it because its my country.i dont hate the american people i think they are the most friendly people around but i bloody hate the government!
 
ahsan28,

Unprecedented destruction? Ever heard of the 78 invasion? How about the 82 one, how about 93, 96? Do you think there was no destruction?

If destruction was a normal feature for Hezbollah, why did Nasrallah appear on TV and regretted the nation? We should read his statement carefully.

Regarding River Litani, you may reconsider your claim.
 
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Anybody can declare open war on something, it doesn't make it legitimate. I could declare war on every soverign entity in the world. That doesn't make it a real war, just firey words.
:w:
 
:sl:
Anybody can declare open war on something, it doesn't make it legitimate. I could declare war on every soverign entity in the world. That doesn't make it a real war, just firey words.
:w:

Sort of like the War on Drugs...:hmm:
 
ahsan28,

Seriously lol the Israelis didn’t even reach the Litani river.


August 12, 2006 :embarrass

In the last few hours, Hizballah’s command and control in the south is showing signs of distress after finding itself cut off from reinforcements and re-supply from the north by the rapid Israeli advances of the last four days.

The second segment of the Northern Division has been positioned since Thursday on the southern bank of the Litani after capturing Qantara.


http://doctor-horsefeathers.com/archives2/000609.php


Israeli Forces Reach The Litani :embarrass


In a massive push, Israeli units have reached the Litani River in Southern Lebanon. This is a very rapid advance, and is somewhat unexpected.

The units were part of a massive force that flooded into Lebanon, trying to seize as much territory as possible before a U.N. cease-fire comes into effect. The objective was to control southern Lebanon up to the Litani River, about 18 miles from the Israeli border, before handing over the area to the Lebanese army and U.N. troops.


http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/12/israeli-forces-reach-the-litani/



They didn't cross the river, but it would have been just one night operation before witnessing zionists in central Lebanon. The situation Hezbollah was put into by the zionists was extremely difficult to handle. Not only them, rather any professional army would have faced similar problems. Fighting when cut off from main supply routes becomes impossible. Even if we take that Hezbollah had converted small localities into strong points, they could have sustained for few days only.

Military capabilities are conditional to what you have in hand during worst scenerios. Crude rockets supplied by Iran and Syria would have been useless at the tactical level, had the war continued for a couple of weeks more :nervous:
 
Keltoi said:
Sure, you aren't scared because you're safely back at home in front of a computer...probably somewhere in the West. You aren't special though, there are plenty of people cheerleading for violence half a world away.

I wonder why this is always thrown back at me. Why do you think I know all the information I stated? I have never been to the West.

Can you guess where I live?

ahsan28 said:
If destruction was a normal feature for Hezbollah, why did Nasrallah appear on TV and regretted the nation? We should read his statement carefully.

Regarding River Litani, you may reconsider your claim.

Read the statement? I watched his interview more than once. I answered you very clearly before, do you want me to repeat myself?

Haha, I stick to the truth they never reached the Litani river.

No one is answering my points, ah well I’m used to that because no one seems to really know what even happened in that war. Not your fault really with the way the media works these days.

Ever heard of propaganda? The Israelis army was lying.

From an Israeli himself: The Thirty Three Day War

From Mania to Depression

By URI AVNERY, August 17, 2006

Tel Aviv.



This will not replace Hizbullah. Hizbullah will remain in the area, in every village and town. The Israeli army has not succeeded in removing it from one single village. That was simply impossible without permanently removing the population to which it belongs.

The town of Bint Jbeil, for example, right next to the border, was taken by the army three times, and the Hizbullah fighters remained there to the end. If we had occupied 20 towns and villages like this one, the soldiers and the tanks would have been exposed in twenty places to the mortal attacks of the guerillas with their highly effective anti-tank weapons.

The aim was to photograph the victorious soldiers on the bank of the Litani. The operation could only last 48 hours, when the cease-fire would come into force. In spite of the fact that the army used helicopters to land the troops, the aim was not attained. At no point did the army reach the Litani.

There is not a single word of truth in this. This operation, which was planned and which the army spent years training for, was not carried out earlier, because it was clear that it would not bring any meaningful gains but would be costly in lives. The army would, indeed, have occupied wide areas, but without being able to dislodge the Hizbullah fighters from them.

BUT THESE facts are not yet clear to the general public. The brain-washing by the military commentators and the ex-generals, who dominated the media at the time, has turned the foolish--I would almost say "criminal"--operation into a rousing victory parade. The decision of the political leadership to stop it is now being seen by many as an act of defeatist, spineless, corrupt and even treasonous politicians.

http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery08172006.html


Get your facts straight :)
 
I never knew these facts before. I admit my fault. Can you tell me why did Hezbollah accept cease-fire at a stage when they were about to defeat zionists as you claim it to be?
 
Two weeks have passed but declaration of war by Hezbollah against zionists has not been manifested on ground and we are discussing almost two years old conflict. We may resume the discussion when the war starts as per the claim of Hezbollah :D
 
Bro they already were defeated when the seize fire was made, they couldn't clean any village, stop the rockets, destroy Hizba'Allah, reach Litani etc.

You have asked me this three times. What do you think Hizba'Allah should have done? They were fighting off an invasion, when the invasion ended because the Israelis couldn't carry any more what else would you have them do?

Shall they carry on leaving the people in the schools?

They are a resistance.
 
Two weeks have passed but declaration of war by Hezbollah against zionists has not been manifested on ground and we are discussing almost two years old conflict. We may resume the discussion when the war starts as per the claim of Hezbollah

Another out of context statement, Sayed Nasra'Allah said, if you want this kind of open war, then this kind of war will happen.

In his later message a week later he said we will pick the place, and way to reply to the attack.

So the Israelis are still worried, waiting, and on alert. That costs money and is good psychological warfare :D

Let them wait, it will come.
 
Agree to what? I said we shall see manifestation of his statement. I am just concerned about innocent Lebanese who are caught in the middle of this dirty game called proxy war. What goes of Nasrallah? He has to appear on TV and just regret before his people as he did before. But I am sure he will not commit any mistake in future. I sincerely pray for the people of Lebanon that they don't have to suffer again because of such rhetorics turning into yet another conflict.
 
i hope they do something big, especially after the last 2 days, 8 palestinian children killed by the savage zionists, including a 6 month old baby.
 
i hope they do something big, especially after the last 2 days, 8 palestinian children killed by the savage zionists, including a 6 month old baby.
Yes, hopefully they'll be able to kill at least a few 5-month old Israeli babies.
 
Two weeks have passed but declaration of war by Hezbollah against zionists has not been manifested on ground and we are discussing almost two years old conflict. We may resume the discussion when the war starts as per the claim of Hezbollah :D

hezbollah are smart, they are not idiots like the ones in england and scotland, the one in england who made a "fire" cracker in picadily as a bomb, and the 2 other buffoons who ran their car into the airport only making themselves catch fire and causes damage on the front lawn.

hezbollah plans things and makes sure it is perfect and very effective. Hezbollah has always backed what they say, they arent based on rheteric like other groups, they actually do what they say, so be patient, the response will come and it will be a very nice response for these zionist savages.
 

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