Woman wearing veil told to leave Italian museum

[AhlaamBella]

Do you mean in Ihraam by any chance ????

I think he does

 

[qassy!]

i dont what the Ihrram is but its to do with the covering the face, my dad went he said its not allowed, and i seen in the pictures on the internet none of the women are wearing it

getting the opinions of apologetics to dismiss an established view

in this case the clearly approved view of niqaab


not a single madhaab or true imaam will dismiss the niqaab.

hence u fatwa shopping from minors

bruv, if its not allowed in meckka why where it? Why not just where the head scarf instead? it makes people thnk of islam better and make people feal safer.

It really anoys me some women cant argue when they are asked to shown there face in airport secuirty.

 

[AhlaamBella]

i dont what the Ihrram is but its to do with the covering the face, my dad went he said its not allowed, and i seen in the pictures on the internet none of the women are wearing it

Brother, you're referring to when a sister is on Hajj. You're in a state of Ihraam Then you don't cover the face . After you come out of Ihraam you shower, cut hair, nails etc

 

[S_87]

what are you talking about mr?
Even non muslims in the west know the majority of women in saudi seem to cover their face by law.
When you see pics of women there its not unusual to see something like this

if thats not covering the face, i dont know what is

 

[S_87]

It really anoys me some women cant argue when they are asked to shown there face in airport secuirty.

and this doesnt make sense.
Airport security are most co-operative with women in the niqab and have no problem if a woman shows to another woman. women in niqab-and i cant speak for all- but for the most part have no problem with this.

Infact i would applaud the airport security here in the UK for their respect to veiled women

 

[qassy!]

Brother, you're referring to when a sister is on Hajj. You're in a state of Ihraam Then you don't cover the face . After you come out of Ihraam you shower, cut hair, nails etc

i guess im taking about Ihrram, the point im trying to make is. Already islamic has so much bad press, terrorism etc etc

When your on the train covering thr face your making people think wrong about islam

when your in the shop, you can understand there concern when they say take the face thing off for CCTV

I mean we need to teach people abot Islam and change their views not make then think wrong

and this doesnt make sense.
Airport security are most co-operative with women in the niqab and have no problem if a woman shows to another woman. women in niqab-and i cant speak for all- but for the most part have no problem with this.

Infact i would applaud the airport security here in the UK for their respect to veiled women

No they do, but why not quickly flash your face to who ever it is? Heathrow do what you said, but the point im trying to make is above.

 

[Güven]

It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihraam. When they came near, each of us would lower her jilbaab from her head over her face, and when they passed by we would uncover (our faces).”

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1833; Ahmad, 24067


They are not allowed to cover their faces If they are in the ihraam(hajj)
but outside if a non mahram can see her, than she can cover her face aswell
thats what I heard

 

[qassy!]

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They are not allowed to cover their faces If they are in the ihraam(hajj)
but outside if a non mahram can see her, than she can cover her face aswell
thats what I heard

jazaakalah somone cleared tht up

 

[AhlaamBella]

i guess im taking about Ihrram, the point im trying to make is. Already islamic has so much bad press, terrorism etc etc

When your on the train covering thr face your making people think wrong about islam

when your in the shop, you can understand there concern when they say take the face thing off for CCTV

I mean we need to teach people abot Islam and change their views not make then think wrong

I understand what you're saying. That's why I said it is so difficult to wear niqaab in this society

 

[crayon]

i guess im taking about Ihrram, the point im trying to make is. Already islamic has so much bad press, terrorism etc etc

When your on the train covering thr face your making people think wrong about islam

when your in the shop, you can understand there concern when they say take the face thing off for CCTV

I mean we need to teach people abot Islam and change their views not make then think wrong



No they do, but why not quickly flash your face to who ever it is? Heathrow do what you said, but the point im trying to make is above.

With your reasoning, should all women remove their headscarfs altogether? Should men shave their beards? Should we all change our names to less muslim sounding ones, perhaps into "Tom" or "Nicole"?

 

[qassy!]

With your reasoning, should all women remove their headscarfs altogether? Should men shave their beards? Should we all change our names to less muslim sounding ones, perhaps into "Tom" or "Nicole"?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Headscarff is fine, peope accpect that and people respect people who can do that, beareds are fine, no names are not fine. My point is is SECUIRTY and i thought you would understand that if you dont im not going to discuss any further

 

[S_87]

i guess im taking about Ihrram, the point im trying to make is. Already islamic has so much bad press, terrorism etc etc

When your on the train covering thr face your making people think wrong about islam

when your in the shop, you can understand there concern when they say take the face thing off for CCTV

I mean we need to teach people abot Islam and change their views not make then think wrong

so we have to educate them that veiled women are not threat. we dont remove who we are and what we believe in, we teach the people with wisdom and kindness.

No they do, but why not quickly flash your face to who ever it is? Heathrow do what you said, but the point im trying to make is above.

yes muslim women DO quickly flash their faces... infact whenever i have travelled the men themselves have always told me before i even get to them, that theres a woman show her if you want or, dont worry you dont have to remove it.
So people like you worrying about all this is slightly annoying because let me tell you, wearing the niqab is not easy, its not something a woman 'does for fun' so as a brother maybe you could read up on the niqab and at the least respect those who choose to wear it, infact respect those who wear the minimum of hijab because its not always easy

 

[doorster]

In Pakistan many a terrorist has gone about his murderous missions disguised as a veiled woman (Recently one terror leader even tried to escape an army siege of his den using that ruse but it was not his lucky day).

 

[AhlaamBella]

In Pakistan many a terrorist has gone about his murderous missions disguised as a veiled woman

And many terrorists are killing innocent people and calling themselves muslim. Shall we all stop being muslim?

 

[S_87]

In Pakistan many a terrorist has gone about his murderous missions disguised as a veiled woman (Recently one terror leader even tried to escape an army siege of his den using that ruse but it was not his lucky day).

whats your point?
Are all veiled women to be banned for their actions?

 

[qassy!]

No but veil is used to make islam look bad, why not just show ur face and where head scarf why do u need 2 go that extra?
By do that your

Making islaam look bad

which is already bad enough

but you cant educate about viel, because its not always used for the good,we all know about this part

 

[doorster]

Are you people the official censors of this site now? none but you are allowed to make an observation?

whats your point?

Point is clear enough (for those who want to understand it).

 

[qassy!]

Are you people the official censors of this site now? none but you are allowed to make an observation?

what???

 

[S_87]

No but veil is used to make islam look bad, why not just show ur face and where head scarf why do u need 2 go that extra?
By do that your

Making islaam look bad

which is already bad enough

but you cant educate about viel, because its not always used for the good,we all know about this part

you missed the point.
Some people deem the veil WAAJIB.in other words obligatory. Should they take off something they deem obligatory?
Should they give up what they believe in?

Islam is NOT made to look bad by veiled women. Most of us get about our business doing nothing. If you are talking about extremists that come in the news then did you look at them? the majority of them are wearing western clothes, and its them that give islam a bad name.

Everything can be used for good and bad. Should we ban everything?

why dont you at least read up on the veil then comment?

 

[S_87]

Are you people the official censors of this site now? none but you are allowed to make an observation?

Point is clear enough (for those who want to understand it).

oh i understand it, but its irrelevant dont you think?

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