This thread is meant to collect weak ahadiith which are widespread among people. The section will point out the scholars who graded the hadith to be weak.
Note a weak hadith does not mean that it is a false hadith. It means that there is a high possibility of an error in it.
The Rightly Guided Caliphs narrated very few hadith out of fear of attributing something to the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) which he had not said.
عرَف الصحابة منزلة السُّنَّة
The Companions recognized the rank of the Sunnah
واحتاطوا في رواية الحديث عن النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم- خشية الوقوع في الخطأ
And they were careful in narrating hadith from the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) because they feared making mistakes.
وكان سيدنا عمر شديد الإنكار على مَن أكثر الرواية وكان يأمر بأن يُقِلوا من الرواية
Umar used to severely criticize those who narrated too many narrations and would command them to narrate few narrations
وقد كان المنهج العام عند الصحابة هو: التشدد في رواية الحديث
And the manhaj of the masses of the Companions was severe strictness in regards to narrating hadith.
والتزم جمهور الصحابة في الخلافة الراشدة منهج عمر بن الخطاب -رضي الله عنه- خشية أن يقعوا في الخطأ
And the majority of the Companions adhered to the manhaj of Umar (Allaah is pleased with him), during the khilaafah al-raashidah, fearing that they would fall into (making) mistakes (if they narrated too many hadith)
This was the way of the Companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) who spent their lives with the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam).
There is no doubt that there were those Companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) who narrated a lot of hadith. However, they were always very careful.
Today, we have gone so far of the path that we narrate everything we hear and do not even take 1 minute to explain the opinions of the scholars on a given hadith.
We live dangerous lives.
Those who can read Arabic should invest the time to read the following book
منهاج المحدثين في القرن الأول الهجري وحتى عصرنا الحاضر
It is important to inform your audience when you narrate a weak hadith. The rank and sanctity of the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) is unlike any other.
The best of creation after the Prophets (peace be upon them all) were warned that if they raise their voice over his (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) all their deeds would go to waste.
O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not.
[Qur'aan 49:2]
They were not allowed to call out to him (sallallaahu alayi wa sallam) as they did to one another.
Do not make [your] calling of the Messenger among yourselves as the call of one of you to another. Already Allah knows those of you who slip away, concealed by others. So let those beware who dissent from the Prophet's order, lest fitnah strike them or a painful punishment.
[Qur'aan 24:63]
Lying on him (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) is not like lying on anyone else.
Narrated al-Mughira:
I heard the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) saying, "Ascribing false things to me is not like ascribing false things to anyone else. Whosoever tells a lie against me intentionally then surely let him occupy his seat in Hell-Fire." I heard the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) saying, "The deceased who is wailed over is tortured for that wailing."
[Sahih al-Bukhaari]
Imaam Muslim said,
"It Is Sinful To Report Something From A Weak Narrator Without Making Its Weakness Clear: He says in the introduction of his ‘saheeh’: "But they made it incumbent upon themselves to reveal the weaknesses of hadeeth narrators and they gave fatwaa according to that – because of the great danger involved in it, since the narrations about matters of Deen convey allowance (Tahleel) and Prohibition (Tahreem), or orders and things which are forbidden, or encouragement and warning (targheeb wa tarheeb), so if the narrator is not truthful and trustworthy – then someone who narrates from him, knowing that, and does not make his weakness clear to others who do not know him, then he is sinful through that action, deceiving the common Muslims – since he cannot be sure that some of those who hear those narration’s will not use some or all of them, and perhaps they – or most of them – are lies which have no basis. And the authentic narrations form reliable narrators and people of precision are so plentiful that there is no need of the narration of someone who is not reliable"
Introduction Sahih Muslim
It only follows that one exercise extreme caution when narrating hadith and ensure that if they are weak one makes mention of it for the betterment of his own hereafter.
"Indeed for everything there is a heart, and the Qur'an's heart is Ya Sin. Whoever recites Ya Sin, then for its recitation, Allah writes for him that he recited the Qur'an ten times."
Jāmi' al-Tirmidhi
Sheikh al-albāni said this is a fabricated hadīth.
Muhammad bin Ahmad bin Jār said it's weak
Ibn Kathīr said it's not a valid Hadith because it's chain is weak
The Sheikh of the Muhaddithīn sharf al-dīn Abu Muhammad abd al-mu'min bin khalaf bin Abi al-Hasan bin sharf bin al-khadar bin Mūsā al-tūnī al-tinīsī al-dimyāTī al-Shāfi'i said it's chain is diseased
al-Mundhri said: There is not a possibility of it reaching the degree of Hasan
Ibn al-'arabi said it's weak
Let's look at the diseased chain of this narration.
Qutaibah and Sufyān bin wakī'
Humaid bin abd al-rahmān al-ru'āsī
al-Hasan bin sālih
Hārūn Abī Muhammad
Muqātil bin Haiyān
Qatādah
'Anas
Hārūn Abī Muhammad is unknown.
al-Tirmidhi said he is unknown Ibn Hajar al-'asqalāni said he is unknown al-Dhahabi said he is unknown
We have an unknown person in the chain! If a narrator is unknown we do not know if he is reliable, weak, or a liar!
Now you know why the scholars of Hadith labelled this hadīth weak and diseased in regards to the chain.
But the bigoted fanatics who blindly follow their whims today never tell you this. They have no shame. They tell you weak and fabricated ahadīth without telling you it is weak.
Then, they want you to respect lies and possible mistakes which have been attributed to the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam. Astaghfirullah.
May Allāh keep us safe from such diseased individuals and guide us to the way of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam who were so careful in narrating ahadīth despite spending their entire lives with the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam.
Is this Hadith as below authentic
( those who invole in riba or usury are at War with Allah,
And his messenger pbuh and cursedcby Allah
I do not think you are thinking about a hadith with those words.
You are thinking about the following Verse of the Qur'aan
O you who have believed, fear Allah and give up what remains [due to you] of interest, if you should be believers.
And if you do not, then be informed of a war [against you] from Allah and His Messenger. But if you repent, you may have your principal - [thus] you do no wrong, nor are you wronged.
Qur'aan 2:278-279
And here are three authentic hadith about Ribaa. There are more but for now these should suffice.
Narrated Samura bin Jundab:
The Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said, "This night I dreamt that two men came and took me to a Holy land whence we proceeded on till we reached a river of blood, where a man was standing, and on its bank was standing another man with stones in his hands. The man in the middle of the river tried to come out, but the other threw a stone in his mouth and forced him to go back to his original place. So, whenever he tried to come out, the other man would throw a stone in his mouth and force him to go back to his former place. I asked, 'Who is this?' I was told, 'The person in the river was a Riba-eater."
Sahiih al-Bukhaari
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said, "Avoid the seven great destructive sins." The people enquire, "O Allah's Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam)! What are they? "He said, "To join others in worship along with Allah, to practice sorcery, to kill the life which Allah has forbidden except for a just cause, (according to Islamic law), to eat up Riba (usury), to eat up an orphan's wealth, to give back to the enemy and fleeing from the battlefield at the time of fighting, and to accuse, chaste women, who never even think of anything touching chastity and are good believers.
Sahiih al-Bukhaari
Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud:
The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) cursed the one who accepted usury, the one who paid it, the witness to it, and the one who recorded it.
Yes that is it.
Does it apply to current era of mortgages tsken ou by me in uk gor house purchases as i reside in one of them that has conventional fixed rate mortgage from uk banks
format_quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez
I do not think you are thinking about a hadith with those words.
You are thinking about the following Verse of the Qur'aan
O you who have believed, fear Allah and give up what remains [due to you] of interest, if you should be believers.
And if you do not, then be informed of a war [against you] from Allah and His Messenger. But if you repent, you may have your principal - [thus] you do no wrong, nor are you wronged.
Qur'aan 2:278-279
And here are three authentic hadith about Ribaa. There are more but for now these should suffice.
Narrated Samura bin Jundab:
The Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said, "This night I dreamt that two men came and took me to a Holy land whence we proceeded on till we reached a river of blood, where a man was standing, and on its bank was standing another man with stones in his hands. The man in the middle of the river tried to come out, but the other threw a stone in his mouth and forced him to go back to his original place. So, whenever he tried to come out, the other man would throw a stone in his mouth and force him to go back to his former place. I asked, 'Who is this?' I was told, 'The person in the river was a Riba-eater."
Sahiih al-Bukhaari
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said, "Avoid the seven great destructive sins." The people enquire, "O Allah's Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam)! What are they? "He said, "To join others in worship along with Allah, to practice sorcery, to kill the life which Allah has forbidden except for a just cause, (according to Islamic law), to eat up Riba (usury), to eat up an orphan's wealth, to give back to the enemy and fleeing from the battlefield at the time of fighting, and to accuse, chaste women, who never even think of anything touching chastity and are good believers.
Sahiih al-Bukhaari
Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud:
The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) cursed the one who accepted usury, the one who paid it, the witness to it, and the one who recorded it.
Sunan Abi Dawud
But does it apply for house ourchased on mrtgage on fixed interest rate from uk halifax bank.
Its ambiguous qs that hadith was in 7th century and ilunsure if applies to current times.it is a Very confusing Hadith?
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When one of you backbites his brother, then let him ask forgiveness for him. For indeed that is an expiation for him.
The chain of this narration has Sulaimaan bin 'amr who is Abu Daawud al-Nakha'i and he is a well known liar!
al-Nasaa'i said he is matruuk
Ahmad bin Hanbal said: He used to fabricate hadiith
al-Bukhaari said: He is matruuk and Qutaibah and 'ishaaQ charged him of lying
Yaziid bin Haaruun said: It is not permissible for anyone to narrate from him
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Had it not been for you (O Muhamad sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) I would not have created the 'aflaak
al-Sagaani said it is fabricated
Shiekh al-albaani said it is fabricated
In another wording we have
Allaah sent revelation to 'Iisaa (peace be upon him) O Iisaa believe in Muhammad and order the ones who meet him from your Ummah to believe in him for had it not been for Muhammad I would not have created Adam and had it not been for Muhammad I would not have created Paradise or the Fire...
al-Dhahabi said: I think it is fabricated!
The chain contains 'amr bin 'aus al-'anSaarii and he would fabricate ahadiith!
al-Dhahabi said in al-miizaan: He would narrate munkar ahadiith. Then, al-Dhahabi mentioned this hadiith and said: I think it is fabricated.
Ibn Hajar agreed with al-Dhahabi in this hadith being fabricated.
How shameless are those who narrate such ahadiith sitting on pulpits.
They lie upon Allaah. And they lie upon the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam).
O Allaah bless us in Rajab and Sha'baan and make us reach Ramadaan
Let's see what the scholars of hadiith have said about this hadiith. Then, we will look at its diseased chain.
al-Nawawi said: Its chain has weakness in it.
Page 274 in his book al-'adhkhaar
al-Dhahabi said in meezaan al-'i'tidaal on page 96 in volume 3 regarding the narrator zaa'idah who is in the chain of this hadiith: weak
al-Haithami said: The chain has zaa'idah bin Abi al-ruQaad regarding who al-Bukhaari said: He is munkar al-hadiith.
Majma al-Zawaa'id Volume 2 Page 165
Ahmad Shaakir said: Its chain is weak
Shuaib al-Arnaout said: Its chain is weak
Now let's look at the diseased chain of this narration
Ali bin Haaruun -> Yusuf al-QaaDi' -> Muhammad bin Abi Bakr -> zaa'idah bin Abi al-ruQaad
Let's see what the scholars of truth said about zaa'idah bin Abi al-ruQaad
al-Bukhaari said: Munkar al-hadiith!
Abu Daawud said: I do not know who he is
al-Nasaa'i said: I do not know who he is
al-Dhahabi said: He is not a hujjah!
Ibn Hajar said: He is munkar al-hadith!!!!
al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said:
There is not a single authentic hadith which is fit to be used as evidence in regards to the merit of Rajab nor in regards to fasting during this month or standing specifically during its nights.
But the bigoted fanatics who blindly follow their whims today never tell you this. They have no shame. They tell you weak and fabricated ahadīth without telling you it is weak.
Then, they want you to respect lies and possible mistakes which have been attributed to the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam. Astaghfirullah.
مولى العباس قال رأيت عليا يقبل يد العباس ورجله
Suhayb said,"I saw Ali kiss the hands and feet of Abbas ."
(Al-Adab al-Mufrad, Chapter 445 Hadith No 976)
Imam al-Dhahabi said in his Siyar A'lam an Nabula
إسناده حسن
It has“Hassan”chain [Siyar, Volume No. 2 #94]
Al-Wazi' ibn 'Amir said, "We came and were told, 'That is the Messenger of Allah .' We took his hands and feet and kissed them."
(Al-Adab al-Mufrad Chapter 445 Hadith No 975)
أحمد بن حمدان القصار سمعت مسلم بن الحجاج وجاء إلى محمد بن إسماعيل البخاري فقبل بين عينيه وقال دعني حتى أقبل رجليك يا أستاذ الأستاذين وسيد المحدثين وطبيب الحديث في علله حدثك
Ahmed bin Hamdan al-Qasaar said that he saw Muslim bin Hajjaj (i.e. Imam Muslim) coming in the court of Imam Bukhari and kissed his forehead,"THEN HE ASKED HIS PERMISSION TO KISS HIS FEET" he then said: O Teacher of Teachers master of traditionalists and grand scholar on hadith weaknesses.
[Al Bidayah wan Nihayah (11/33), and Sayyir A'laam An Nubala, Volume: 3, Page No: 3343, Under Biography of Imam Bukhari , Biography No: 4969]
Almost similar hadith are in Abu Dawud, Ibn Maajah, Tirmidhi and other books as well.
Are all these narrations sahih...?
If these hadith are fabricated then why these muhaddisin accepted them.
Will you use the same 'shameless' type language for these muhaddisin...?
What about this 'kissing feet' incident of imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim ?
He who recites Suurah al-Kahf on Friday, he is safe for eight days from any fitnah which comes to be. If al-Dajjaal comes, he will be safe from him.
This particular hadiith is very weak.
Let's look at the chain of this very weak hadiith
al-Qaadii Abu Abd Allaah al-Husain bin 'Ahmad al-Raazii -> 'Abu al-faDl 'ubaid Allaah bin Abd al-Rahmaan al-zuhrii -> 'Abu 'ishaaQ 'ibraahiim bin Abd Allaah bin 'ayyuub al-makhramii -> Sa'iid bin Muhammad al-jarmii -> Abd Allaah bin MuS'ab bin Mansuur bin Zaid bin Khaalid -> Ali bin al-Hasan -> from his father -> Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him)
In the red you see the two narrators which make this hadiith very weak.
The first is:
'Abu 'ishaaQ 'ibraahiim bin Abd Allaah bin 'ayyuub al-makhramii
There is a difference of opinion regarding him. al-DaaraQutni said: He is not reliable. He narrates baatil ahadiith from reliable narrators.
Others have said he is Suduuq
The second narrator is
Abd Allaah bin MuS'ab bin Mansuur bin Zaid bin Khaalid
His state is not known to the scholars of hadiith. He could be reliable, weak, or even one who fabricates ahadiith. When the scholars of hadiith do not know about the state of a narrator, then the chain becomes weak.
Based on these two narrators the hadith becomes very weak.
That is why Shiekh al-albaani graded it weak and so did Muhammad bin Abd al-Haadii. He said this hadiith does not have a chain and if it does then the critics from the people of knowledge do not use such a chain for evidence.
The book in which this hadiith can be found is called al-'ahaaditha al-mukhtaarah. The author of the book is Diya al-Din al-Maqdisi.
Below is a screenshot of the hadiith from the book
The Prophet was asked about whether Umrah was obligatory? He said: "No. But if you perform Umrah it is more virtuous."
Imaam al-Nawawi says:
The chains of both ahadiith are weak.
As for the saying of al-Tirmidhi that this is a hasan Sahiih hadiith then that is not accepted and his opinion is not given consideration in regards to this.
The huffaaz have agreed that this is a weak hadiith as has passed in what al-Bayhaqi said. The evidence for it being weak is that it rests upon al-Hajjaaj bin 'arTaah.
This hadiith is not known except through him and al-Tirmidhi has only narrated it from him. And al-Hajjaaj is weak and a mudallis by consensus of the huffaaz.
He said in his hadiith from ('an) Muhammad bin al-Munkadir.
When a mudallis says in his hadiith 'an (عن) then his hadiith is not used as evidence and there is no difference in regards to this as it has been established and is well known in the books of the scholars of hadiith and the scholars of Usuul and because the majority of scholars have said that al-Hajjaaj is weak for another reason besides tadliis.
When there are two reasons for a narrator being weak, then everyone agrees that one cannot use him as evidence. And in his case it is that he is weak and a mudallis. How then can his hadiith be Sahiih?
End of what Imaam al-Nawawi says in his al-majmuu
Volume 7 Page 6
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Stay in a state of purity and your rizq will increase
This is part of a long hadiith in kanzul 'amaal. The Hadiith No. 44154.
It is a fabrication.
It is recorded with the following words
فأخبرني باسناده عن مشايخه إلى خالد بن الوليد
And I was informed with its chain from his mashaayikh up to Khaliid bin Waliid (may Allaah be pleased with him).
These mashaayikh are not named. It is a narration based on a chain the narrators of whom are not known.
This is sort of a hadiith is not acceptable among the scholars of hadiith of the past or present.
To make matters worse, the narrator has created a long matn (text of the hadiith) by collecting parts of authentic narrations and sayings of scholars and bundled them into one big text and attributed it to the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam). Astaghfirullah.
Some speakers today are spreading this baseless narration among the masses. Beware of them.
May Allaah guide us to the straight path and keep us safe from lying upon the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam).
Jibriil entered upon the Prophet and said the angel of death is at the door and is asking permission to enter upon you. He has not asked anyone before you for permission. Thereupon, he said to him: O Jibriil give him permission and the angel of death entered. And he said: Peace be upon you O Messenger of Allaah. Allaah has sent me to give you a choice between remaining in this world or that you join with Allaah. Thereupon the Prophet said: Rather, (I choose) the rafiiq al-'alaa, rather (I choose) the rafiiq al-'alaa.
This is an extremely weak and possibly fabricated hadiith.
Ibn Kaheer graded it weak al-'iraaqi graded it weak Ibn Hajar graded it weak Sheikh al-albaani said it is fabricated.
One of the chains has
Abd Allaah bin Maimuun.
The scholars of hadiith said he is weak
The second chain has
al-mukhtaar bin Naafi'
al-'iraaQi said: He is munkar al-hadiith.
What is narrated in the Sahiih hadith is the following
Narrated `Aisha:
When the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) was healthy, he used to say, "No soul of a prophet is captured till he is shown his place in Paradise and then he is given the option." When death approached him while his head was on my thigh, he became unconscious and then recovered his consciousness. He then looked at the ceiling of the house and said, "O Allah! (with) the highest companions." I said (to myself), "Hence, he is not going to choose us." Then I realized that what he had said was the application of the narration which he used to mention to us when he was healthy. The last word he spoke was, "O Allah! (with) the highest companion."
[Sahiih al-Bukhaari]
As for the angel asking permission that is not mentioned in any authentic hadith.
May Allaah save us from spreading weak and at times fabricated ahadiith among the masses.
If anyone needs a weak hadiith to build up their Imaan, they have serious problems.
May Allaah guide us to the way of the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) who exercised extreme caution in narrating ahadiith.
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