anyhow a fresh start with sheikh sudais most likely the next leading imam unless a sudden change of plan and he doesnt lead maghrib and i am proved wrong :grumbling
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Does anyone know who was the Imam of the Haram during the siege which occured on the 20th November 1979?
***** قال ابن أبي مليكة : أدركت ثلاثين من أصحاب النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - كلهم يخاف النفاق على نفسه
Ibn Abī Mulaykah said: "I encountered thirty Companions of the Prophet, every one of them fearing hypocrisy for himself." [Muslim]
In one of sheikh khalid yasin's lectures he said that about 30-40 yrs ago there used to be 4 dif imams leading the four major madhhab groups separately but then someone made them pray altogether ... does anyone know about this?
"Indeed in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest"
^^^ i dont know about that but Alhumdulillah it is now ALL muslims praying together
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oh: :eek:
So hang on....He's been banned just becuase what he said was just plain truth and purely what Islam is.......Whos in charge of the Harem in Makkah....Should be exiled from Makkah/Madinah forever...and be shot in the head.
no no no he hasnt be banned. sorry for not making myself clear. hes been BUSY with the seminar too. so before this it would have been holiday period. inshaAllah hell be leading again soon.
Does anyone know who was the Imam of the Haram during the siege which occured on the 20th November 1979?
im not sure but i think think think scholars around that time would have been the sheikh with surname beginning with K. i cant remember the name and maybe sheikh ali jaber and sheikh bin uthaimin rahimahumullahi. and sheikh subayyil too
there was also another attepmted siege by the iranis in the 1980s too i think
Yh Subhanallah on the 20th November 1979 which corresponded to the 1st Muharram 1400AH, a group of men smuggled in weaponary in coffins. As the Imam finished the Fajr Salaat the men took out their guns and took control of the microphone and started to announce that the Mahdi was amongst them. The announcer was Juhayman ibn Muhammad ibn Saif al 3Utayby and the name of the supposed Mahdi was as predicted Muhammad ibn Abdullah. Juhayman and his followers took the Haram itself hostage for 8 days and eventually let out the women & children and then the men when food ran short. The military were sent into combat and shooting was exhanged from both sides. Eventually it came to and end when the 60 or so people who were caught included Juhayman were taken and executed.
You can refer to this thread and CD1 for the story in more detail inshallah.
Last edited by Al-Hanbali; 09-03-2006 at 03:08 PM.
***** قال ابن أبي مليكة : أدركت ثلاثين من أصحاب النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - كلهم يخاف النفاق على نفسه
Ibn Abī Mulaykah said: "I encountered thirty Companions of the Prophet, every one of them fearing hypocrisy for himself." [Muslim]
Yh Subhanallah on the 20th November 1979 which corresponded to the 1st Muharram 1400A, a group of men smuggled in weaponary in coffins. As the Imam finishe dthe Fajr Salaat the men took out their guns and took control of the microphone and started to announce that the Mahdi was amongst them. The announcer was Juhayman ibn Muhammad ibn Saif al 3Utayby and the name of the supposed MAhdi was as predicted Muhammad ibn Abdullah. Juhayman and his followere took the Haramitself hostage for 8 days nad eventually let out the women & children and then the men when food ran short. The military were sent into combat and shooting was exhanged from both sides. Eventually it came to and end when the 60 or so people who were caught were executed.
You can refer to this thread and CD1 for the story in more detail inshallah.
That's scary, in the midst of the harem...In front of Allah's huse, this outrage. Good they got what they deserved :mad:
no no no he hasnt be banned. sorry for not making myself clear. hes been BUSY with the seminar too. so before this it would have been holiday period. inshaAllah hell be leading again soon.
im not sure but i think think think scholars around that time would have been the sheikh with surname beginning with K.
You mean Sheikh Khayyat sis?
***** قال ابن أبي مليكة : أدركت ثلاثين من أصحاب النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - كلهم يخاف النفاق على نفسه
Ibn Abī Mulaykah said: "I encountered thirty Companions of the Prophet, every one of them fearing hypocrisy for himself." [Muslim]
***** قال ابن أبي مليكة : أدركت ثلاثين من أصحاب النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - كلهم يخاف النفاق على نفسه
Ibn Abī Mulaykah said: "I encountered thirty Companions of the Prophet, every one of them fearing hypocrisy for himself." [Muslim]
im not sure but i think think think scholars around that time would have been the sheikh with surname beginning with K. i cant remember the name and maybe sheikh ali jaber and sheikh bin uthaimin rahimahumullahi. and sheikh subayyil too
there was also another attepmted siege by the iranis in the 1980s too i think
i can tell you his name in few hours , i bought some cds from saudi there are so many videos of old imaams .
and there was only one attempt of sidge , 2nd time it was a protest
In 1979 on 1 Muharram AH 1400/21 November, the first day of the 15th Islamic century, fanatics led by students of the Theological University of Medina attempt to promote one of their group as Mahdi and thus fulfill a certain prophetic Hadith: "A man of the people of Medina will go forth, fleeing to Mecca, and certain of the people of Mecca will come to him and will lead him forth against his will and swear fealty to him between the rukn (Black Stone corner of the Kabah) and the Maqam Ibrahim."
They hold the Haram of Mecca against the army for two weeks. Sixty-three of the 300 fanatics are captured alive, the mosque is recovered, and the conspirators are all put to death.
"1979: December 4:
One hundred and fifty-three killed and 560 wounded after Saudi security forces and Pakistan's (SSG) advised by French paramilitary unit stormed the Grand Mosque in Mecca to rescue pilgrims held hostage by fanatics for about two weeks.
The operation to take back the mosque involved Saudi Commandos and Pakistan's SSG. French commandos were also involved but this was limited to advice and logistics. They were camped in Jeddah and were NOT allowed into Mecca. The forces to go in and fight the rebels were Saudi and Pak (SSG). Syrian commandos were supposedly positioned outside the haram.
Brute force or anything that would damage the sacred sanctury wasn't used and Pak/Saudis were inderstandably very reluctant to fight in the House of Allah. Instead they littered the area with smoke bombs, tear gas and they flooded the basement with boiling water.For several hours they waited till the rebel gunmen literally choked. The SSG and Saudis had sniper teams hiding in nearby buildings and mountains(Jabl-al-Ka'Bah) to slowly take out the gunmen.The whole operation took 10 days or so including when they stormed the area to physically remove the rebels, room by room. 150 rebels were killed and similar number of friendly forces and there was quite a bit of damage done to the mosque too. "
check this thread http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...oly-kabah.html
im not sure but i think think think scholars around that time would have been the sheikh with surname beginning with K. i cant remember the name and maybe sheikh ali jaber and sheikh bin uthaimin rahimahumullahi. and sheikh subayyil too
i can tell you his name in few hours , i bought some cds from saudi there are so many videos of old imaams .
and there was only one attempt of sidge , 2nd time it was a protest
In 1979 on 1 Muharram AH 1400/21 November, the first day of the 15th Islamic century, fanatics led by students of the Theological University of Medina attempt to promote one of their group as Mahdi and thus fulfill a certain prophetic Hadith: "A man of the people of Medina will go forth, fleeing to Mecca, and certain of the people of Mecca will come to him and will lead him forth against his will and swear fealty to him between the rukn (Black Stone corner of the Kabah) and the Maqam Ibrahim."
[/COLOR] They hold the Haram of Mecca against the army for two weeks. Sixty-three of the 300 fanatics are captured alive, the mosque is recovered, and the conspirators are all put to death.
"1979: December 4:
One hundred and fifty-three killed and 560 wounded after Saudi security forces and Pakistan's (SSG) advised by French paramilitary unit stormed the Grand Mosque in Mecca to rescue pilgrims held hostage by fanatics for about two weeks.
The operation to take back the mosque involved Saudi Commandos and Pakistan's SSG. French commandos were also involved but this was limited to advice and logistics. They were camped in Jeddah and were NOT allowed into Mecca. The forces to go in and fight the rebels were Saudi and Pak (SSG). Syrian commandos were supposedly positioned outside the haram.
Brute force or anything that would damage the sacred sanctury wasn't used and Pak/Saudis were inderstandably very reluctant to fight in the House of Allah. Instead they littered the area with smoke bombs, tear gas and they flooded the basement with boiling water.For several hours they waited till the rebel gunmen literally choked. The SSG and Saudis had sniper teams hiding in nearby buildings and mountains(Jabl-al-Ka'Bah) to slowly take out the gunmen.The whole operation took 10 days or so including when they stormed the area to physically remove the rebels, room by room. 150 rebels were killed and similar number of friendly forces and there was quite a bit of damage done to the mosque too. "
check this thread http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...oly-kabah.html
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