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    antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

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    this is one of the miracles of the prophet muhammed (peace and prays be upon him)


    in the book of bukhary it came that our prophet has said the following :-

    in the book of Beginning Of Creation in (Sahih Bukhari)

    Volumn 004, Book 054, Hadith Number 537.
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    Narated By Abu Huraira : The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."



    and here is what the scientists are saying after 1400 years of our prophet's statment :-

    http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s689400.htm

    The new buzz on antibiotics
    Tuesday, 1 October 2002

    sheepfly 1 - antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    The surface of flies is the last place you would expect to find antibiotics, yet that is exactly where a team of (:X MOST LIKELY NON MUSLIMs) Australian researchers is concentrating their efforts.

    Working on the theory that flies must have remarkable antimicrobial defences to survive rotting dung, meat and fruit, the team at the Department of Biological Sciences, Macquarie University, set out to identify those antibacterial properties manifesting at different stages of a fly’s development.

    "Our research is a small part of a global research effort for new antibiotics, but we are looking where we believe no-one has looked before,” said Ms Joanne Clarke, who presented the group’s findings at the Australian Society for Microbiology Conference in Melbourne this week. The project is part of her PhD thesis.

    The scientists tested four different species of fly: a house fly, a sheep blowfly, a vinegar fruit fly and the control, a Queensland fruit fly which lays its eggs in fresh fruit. These larvae do not need as much antibacterial compound because they do not come into contact with as much bacteria.

    Flies go through the life stages of larvae and pupae before becoming adults. In the pupae stage, the fly is encased in a protective casing and does not feed. "We predicted they would not produce many antibiotics," said Ms Clarke.

    They did not. However the larvae all showed antibacterial properties (except that of the Queensland fruit fly control).

    As did all the adult fly species, including the Queensland fruit fly (which at this point requires antibacterial protection because it has contact with other flies and is mobile).

    Such properties were present on the fly surface in all four species, although antibacterial properties occur in the gut as well. "You find activity in both places," said Ms Clarke.

    "The reason we concentrated on the surface is because it is a simpler extraction.”

    The antibiotic material is extracted by drowning the flies in ethanol, then running the mixture through a filter to obtain the crude extract.

    When this was placed in a solution with various bacteria including E.coli, Golden Staph, Candida (a yeast) and a common hospital pathogen, antibiotic action was observed every time.

    "We are now trying to identify the specific antibacterial compounds," said Ms Clarke. Ultimately these will be chemically synthesised.

    Because the compounds are not from bacteria, any genes conferring resistance to them may not be as easily transferred into pathogens. It is hoped this new form of antibiotics will have a longer effective therapeutic life.



    Danny Kingsley - ABC Science Online


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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    hey brothers i thought this article is good ;
    so please keep me informed
    and salam all
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    well done, mashallah.

    good info.

    keep up the good work!
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    you know the best part is that abot 3 years back

    I wrote to over 23 universities and reseachers on insects with this theory

    One in the USA (Pa) took a lot of interest and said yet there is no evidence to suggest it but its a very interesting proposotion indeed...

    So Alhamdolillah someone took up the research finally

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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    thank you all for your reply and and i would like to say that as far as i know its not obligatory on any one to continue drinking his fresh juice after the fly falls into it.

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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    yea man but why waste when u can taste

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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    Mashallah!!! That is SOOOO TRUE. May Allah (SWT) REWARD You. Ameen.
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)


    subhanAllah bro tht article was amazing i was like :eek: while reading it with awe
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    Mashallah and jazakallah for sharing..
    wassalam
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    my thanks goes to all brothers and sisters and jazakum allah khayran for your encouragement

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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    i ask my brothers and sisters to post other scientific articles about the bacterias and antibiotics that is on the fly's body

    wa assalam alykom
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    i want the moderators to make a section for the science and islam

    cause this is really a good way in da`wah of non muslims
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    okay people i have got something new in this matter.

    it is a biological research that proves every word of what the prophet (peace be upon him) said in this hadith :
    Narated By Abu Huraira : The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

    this research's conclusions is based upon the lab results of examining the wings of three different types of the fly under the microscopes.

    this research is written in arabic but there are english tables of test results included, and it was written by an egyptian professor who is espiciallized in the entomology, his name is doctor "Mustafa Ibrahim Hes".

    and here is the pdf file:
    http://www.snapdrive.net/files/26722...e_flywings.pdf


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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    wasnt this brought up before?
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    what i said before was not that specific, this research proves that the house fly has one wing with disease and the other wing with antibiotics. just as the prophet (peace be upon him) said.
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    format_quote Originally Posted by hemoo View Post
    what i said before was not that specific, this research proves that the house fly has one wing with disease and the other wing with antibiotics. just as the prophet (peace be upon him) said.
    at least by the text you quoted it says nothing about one wing with disease and the other antibiotics. "i may have missed it."

    Also the scienctists gave why they thought they could harvest antibiotics from flys and it had nothing to do with the quran.

    And lastly as stated in the preivous posts.
    going through a complicated process to extract the antibiotics is very different from dipping a fly in your food or drink.
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    all the answers you seek is in this PDF file which contains all the research results.

    here is the pdf file:

    http://www.snapdrive.net/files/267220/science/disease%26cure_flywings.pdf

    to save the PDF file right click the link then save as
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    format_quote Originally Posted by hemoo View Post
    all the answers you seek is in this PDF file which contains all the research results.

    here is the pdf file:

    http://www.snapdrive.net/files/267220/science/disease%26cure_flywings.pdf

    to save the PDF file right click the link then save as
    SO they didnt publish there findings in english?
    From what i can tell of the actual article the antibiotics are covering the flies and not just one wing.
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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    i don't have an english version.

    and as i said that if you managed to read the whole research you will find that there are bad bacterias in one wing and the other one has another kind of bacteria named B.Circulans, it is a positive gram bacteria which have some anti biotical materials in it in which it kill ather bad bacterias. and it is not as dangerous to human health as the other bacterias it kills.

    i also understood that there are some kinds of funges that also discharges some kind of anti bacterial materials.


    any way this research have many scientific terms and explanations which is hard to fully understand without having good biological and bacterial knowledge.

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    Re: antibiotics on the house fly (one of the prophet's miracles)

    format_quote Originally Posted by hemoo View Post
    i don't have an english version.

    and as i said that if you managed to read the whole research you will find that there are bad bacterias in one wing and the other one has another kind of bacteria named B.Circulans, it is a positive gram bacteria which have some anti biotical materials in it in which it kill ather bad bacterias. and it is not as dangerous to human health as the other bacterias it kills.
    Ialso understood that there are some kinds of funges that also discharges some kind of anti bacterial materials.

    any way this research have many scientific terms and explanations which is hard to fully understand without having good biological and bacterial knowledge
    Lets jsut give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment.
    Are you saying if you take a fly and let it puts its disease on your "food" and then you dip a fly in the food you will cure yourself? This is not what they are doing. They are using a very specific procedure to get the antibiotics. They are not dipping the flies instead as the article said,

    The antibiotic material is extracted by drowning the flies in ethanol, then running the mixture through a filter to obtain the crude extract

    So at the very least you are taking the quran out of context.

    Now back to the link you gave me. Where did you get it? Is it done by the univeristy in australia? This is why i doubt your source since the one you provided is in arabic "my bad for not being able to read it, i do read japanese though" I would have expected the source to be in english since thats the dominant language in australia.

    And for another point that puts doubt on your view.

    The article in english you provided said the antibiotic compounds are not from bacteria "i may be misunderstanding the article" and you say the arabic source says they are.
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