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    Selam Alaikym!

    I am again making this thread for voting about how many of us here are believing or not in Evolution!
    And it will be very good if someone can post\explain why is he\she believing or not!
    There were before two replies but the forum had a problem and it was all deleted!But if they can post their comments again I'll be very thankfull!
    I will be very thankfull again for every vote and comment that you will make!

    Thanks!

    Wasalam...
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    Greetings and peace be with you barney, thanks for your reply.

    We are singing from the same songsheet as regards the beleif in God.(although my interpretation of it/her/him will differ vastly from yours)
    I am a Catholic and my interpretation of God is different to other Catholics, it is also different to the interpretation of our Muslim friends here. Despite all out interpretations there is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen.

    My interpretations of God and yours are almost irrelevant, we will not change God because we have different beliefs. Simply put God is God.
    How do you deal with the incompatibility of scripture with evolution. Im thinking genisis mainly.
    When you follow the genealogy in the Bible it puts the age of the Earth at something like six thousand years old. This is in conflict with science that adds a few billion to this number.

    The bottom line for me is that the Bible is the inspired word of God written by man. If God has the power to create the universe and life from nothing, then he has the power to edit the Bible in the way he wants.

    Despite all the contradictions that people point out; I simply trust that the message in Genesis is there to inspire me in some way, it is for me to search for meaning.

    In the spirit of searching for God

    Eric

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    Re: Evolution Test!

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    Greetings and peace be with you barney, thanks for your reply.


    I am a Catholic and my interpretation of God is different to other Catholics, it is also different to the interpretation of our Muslim friends here. Despite all out interpretations there is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen.

    My interpretations of God and yours are almost irrelevant, we will not change God because we have different beliefs. Simply put God is God.

    When you follow the genealogy in the Bible it puts the age of the Earth at something like six thousand years old. This is in conflict with science that adds a few billion to this number.

    The bottom line for me is that the Bible is the inspired word of God written by man. If God has the power to create the universe and life from nothing, then he has the power to edit the Bible in the way he wants.

    Despite all the contradictions that people point out; I simply trust that the message in Genesis is there to inspire me in some way, it is for me to search for meaning.

    In the spirit of searching for God

    Eric
    I would again agree. God is indeed what i call the creating force and no matter what I beleive, wether that it is in fact Ganesh, Rameses, Yahweh,Travesser or Hirohito, God will remain God. That force simply is.

    The Bible is, in your beleif, the inspired word of this force. In your construct, this force is sentinent and so can interact. The way it wishes to interact with its creation is by communicating through a Book.
    This creator takes the time and trouble to explain many things. It cant possibly be wrong, because it knows everything. It knows how long a day is and it knows how long we call a day. It knows that the sun rises in our east, it knows the earth spins round the sun. Scripture in various religions contradict all this and more.
    Three possibilities exist.
    1)The bible is the inspired word of God, but the scribes deliberatly wrote it down wrong in order to fullfil some short term goal of their own. In which case, why on earth are we using a book thats telling man-made porkies.

    2)The Bible is not the inspired word of God. Its the created word of man. Men who thought about God a lot, but had no actual inspiration from him. If they had inspiration. They would have got everything right and left out the bits with 9.7 million creatures on a boat, Mankind coming from one couple etc etc.
    If a bit of it is wrong, then how do we know which bits are right, or indeed if anything in it is right, other than positively secondary sourced infomation....(such as King David's genocidal warmongering).

    3)God can communicate , wants to communicate, inspired a book to do this with, but as a bit of a laugh to confuse us all, just Lied.
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    I voted yes. Evolution seems like a resonable explanation of the diversity of life as we see it. Thanks.

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    It is quite amazing how people will believe something such as evolution without understanding what the process entails.
    The only people who actually believe this theory are:
    1)people who have not understood it and are willing to be lead...
    2)those who do understand the theory and having examined it in detail, would rather bow down to "materialism" rather than think of an alternative.

    I know the book is long but (harun yahya):
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    blind faith is the worst kind of malady afflicting the human race.

    What I dont understand is that if scientists dont know how life came about, why dont they just say so? instead of pushing this "amazing" theory down out throats.

    Evolution is a lie that nobody seems to be willing to investigate. I was taught it at college (3 years ago) and my biology teacher told us about vestigial organs, the peppered moths, etc. Having recently researched these on my own recently, I wonder whether she knew she was teaching us rubbish or was she simply blindly teaching outdated ideas. for example there are no such things as vestigial organs, and this was published in the '90s. So why was she teaching this in 2003?
    We now know about the workings of a cell etc so why do we still plead ignorance? primitive organisms? what on earth is the phrase supposed to mean. a cell is a cell, can i have a primitive cell please?

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    Salam and Peace be with you United!

    I am so impressed about your way of thinking and that you do not support the Evolution Propaganda!
    And I also totally agree with you that people are so brainwashed,that they accept it without thinking deeply and searching for the truth!
    People are now thinking that only Science has the key to explain the Secrets of the Universe!
    If something or some information makes sense to the people they accept it without thinking of it!That is one of the problems!
    Every science is not true!


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    Behold! verily to Allah belong all creatures, in the heavens and on earth. What do they follow who worship as His "partners" other than Allah? They follow nothing but conjecture, and they do nothing but lie.
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    Different concepts may come to mind when the theory of evolution is mentioned. Some people, mainly materialists who think that it is a scientifically proven fact, fiercely support it and, equally fiercely, reject all ideas opposed to it.
    A second group consists of people who are not well-informed about the theory of evolution's claims.
    They are not particularly interested in it, since they do not realize the harm that Darwinism has done to humanity over the last century and a half.
    They see no problem with how it is imposed on people and fiercely defended, despite its scientific invalidity, for they have closed their eyes to what is going on.
    Even if they know that this theory has lost all scientific credibility, they cannot take seriously those who still find it important, because they themselves do not consider it important.
    They consider it unnecessary to explain the theory's invalidity or to publish books and hold conferences on the subject, for in their eyes the theory is already "old hat" or passé.
    A third group consists of those who, under the influence of materialist suggestion and propaganda, view this theory as scientific fact and look for a "middle way" between it and belief in God.
    They accept Darwinism's account of the origin of life word for word, yet try to build a bridge between the theory of evolution and religious belief by maintaining that this account operates under God's control.
    In reality, each of these views is mistaken, for the theory of evolution cannot reasonably be portrayed as scientific fact, passed off as unimportant, or adapted to religion.
    As we shall see throughout this site, the theory's ideological framework consists of anti-religious thought put forward to strengthen atheism and to give it a firm foundation. Moreover, it is fiercely defended by people who have been persuaded by materialism, for it is constructed on materialist philosophy and offers a materialist commentary on the world. From the time it was first put forward by Charles Darwin and right up to the present day, it has brought humanity nothing but conflict, exploitation, war, and degeneration. Given this, it is essential that we acquire a sound understanding of the subject and launch a serious fight against it on the ideological level.

    This site replies from a very different perspective to the errors of those believers who still support the theory of evolution. It offers a response to those Muslims who look for common ground between the theory of evolution and the fact of creation, and who even try to find evidence for the theory in the Qur'an. The purpose is not to criticize Muslim evolutionists, but rather to explain that their attitude is mistaken, to assist them on the level of ideas, and to be a means whereby they can adopt a more correct perspective.

    Two other facts will be discussed in this site:
    First, that Darwinism is a theory that lacks any scientific foundation, and second, that its real target is religion. Therefore, it will emphasize how wrong it is for Muslims to take the theory lightly or to underestimate it, and to see no need to wage an intellectual struggle against it.

    Believers should avoid defending this theory and its ideological meaning, for both contradict the truths of Islam. Some may support the theory because they are unaware of the disasters that it has visited upon humanity, that it is supported by people who hate religion, and that it rejects the fact of creation. That being the case, those Muslims who have only a little information on the subject should avoid going down that road, for as Allah tells the faithful in the Qur'an:
    Do not pursue what you have no knowledge of. Hearing, sight and hearts will all be questioned. (Qur'an, 17: 36)
    Exemplary Muslims should research the matter in all sincerity and behave according to the realization that:
    ... Those who have become Muslim are those who sought right guidance. (Qur'an, 72: 14)
    As the above verse commands, Muslims who believe in the theory of evolution must consider this theory carefully, carry out wide-ranging research, and make their decision according to their consciences. This site has been prepared to help them do so and to shed some light upon the path that they are following.



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    Why do some Muslims Support the Theory of Evolution?
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    Throughout history, people have thought about the universe and the origin of life, and have put forward various ideas on the subject. We can divide these into two groups: those who explain the universe from a materialist point of view, and those who see that God made the universe out of nothing, namely, the truth of creation.
    In the introduction, we saw that the theory of evolution was constructed upon materialist philosophy. The materialist view claims that the universe consists of matter and that matter is the only thing that exists. Therefore, matter has existed for all time and no other power rules over it. Materialists believe that blind coincidence caused the universe to shape itself and life to come about by gradually evolving from non-living substances. In other words, all living things in the world emerged as the result of natural influences and chance.
    Materialist philosophy uses the theory of evolution, both of which complement each other, to account for the emergence of life. This unity, which was born in ancient Greece, once again was made public under the primitive scientific conditions of the nineteenth century and, since the theory allegedly backed up materialism, whether or not it had any scientific validity, it was adopted immediately by materialists.
    The fact of creation stands in opposition to the theory of evolution. According to the creationist view, matter has not existed for all time and therefore is controlled. God created matter out of nothing and gave it order. All things, living as well as non-living, came into being by God's creation. The amazing design, calculation, equilibrium, and order seen in the universe and in living things are clear evidence of this.
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    Religion has taught the truth of creation, which all people can grasp through reason and personal observation, since the beginning of time. All divine religions have taught that God created the universe by commanding "Be!," and that its flawless functioning is proof of His great creative power. Many Qur'anic verses also reveal this truth. For example, Allah reveals how He miraculously created the universe from nothing: "The Originator of the heavens and Earth. When He decides on something, He just says to it, 'Be!' and it is" (Qur'an, 2:117). He also reveals the following:
    He created the heavens and Earth with truth. The day He says "Be!" it is. His speech is Truth. The Kingdom will be His on the Day the Trumpet is blown, the Knower of the Unseen and the Visible. He is the All-Wise, the All-Aware. (Qur'an, 6:73)

    Modern science demonstrates the invalidity of the materialist-evolutionist claim and confirms creation. Contrary to the theory of evolution, all the proofs of creation that surround us show that chance had no role in the universe's coming into existence. Every detail that emerges as we observe the sky, Earth, and all living things is intended as evidence of God's great power and wisdom.
    This fundamental difference between religion and atheism is that the former believes in God, while the latter believes in materialism. When Allah asks those who deny, He draws attention to the claims that they assert in order to reject creation: "Or were they created out of nothing, or are they the creators?" (Qur'an, 52:35). Ever since the dawn of time, those who deny creation have claimed that humanity and the universe were not created and have sought to justify this irrational and illogical claim. Their greatest support came in the nineteenth century, thanks to Darwin's theory.
    Muslims cannot seek a compromise on this issue. Of course people can think as they please and can believe in whatever theories they wish. However, there can be no compromise with a theory that denies Allah and His creation, for this would involve compromising on religion's fundamental element. Of course, doing so is totally unacceptable.
    Evolutionists, aware of how such a compromise would damage religion, encourage religious people to try and find such a compromise.
    Darwinists Encourage the Creation-by-Evolution View
    Scientists who blindly support the theory of evolution are being backed further into a corner by new scientific advances that are becoming more frequent and better known to the public. Given that every new discovery works against the theory and attests to creation's truth, demagogy takes pride of place over scientific evidence in evolutionist literature. On the other hand, even the most prominent evolutionist scientific magazines, like Science, Nature, Scientific American or New Scientist are forced to admit that several aspects of Darwin's theory has reached a dead end. Scientists who defend creation win these scientific debates, thereby exposing the evolutionists' baseless claims.
    At this point, the view of creation by evolution comes to the materialists' aid. This is one of the tactics used by the evolutionists to appease the supporters of creation (or "Intelligent Design") and to weaken their intellectual position against the dogma of Darwinism. Although evolutionists do not believe in God, for they have made a deity out of chance and totally oppose the fact of creation, they think that their theory will become more acceptable if they remain silent about the religious evolutionists' idea that God created living things through evolution. In fact, they encourage a compromise between the theory and religion so that evolution will become more acceptable and belief in creation will weaken.
    Given this, Muslims must understand that it is totally mistaken to believe that Allah created the universe and yet support the theory of evolution despite the lack of hard scientific evidence. Furthermore, it is just as mistaken to claim that evolution is compatible with the Qur'an by ignoring all the warnings in the Holy Book itself. Muslims who adopt such a position must realize that they are supporting an idea designed to help materialist philosophy and that, given this fact, they must withdraw their support at once.
    If they come upon you, they will be your enemies and stretch out their hands and tongues against you with evil intent, and they would dearly love you to disbelieve.
    (Qur'an, 60: 2)


    Rejecting Evolution does not Mean Rejecting Science:
    The number of Muslims who believe that all living things emerged by means of evolution should not be underestimated. Their error is based upon a lack of knowledge and mistaken viewpoints, particularly in regard to scientific matters. Heading the list is the idea that evolution is a scientific and proven fact.
    "THE THOUGHT OF THE EYE MADE ME COLD ALL OVER!"
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    One of the most insoluble dilemmas for the theory of evolution is the complex structures in living things. For instance, evolutionists claim that the eye, made up of some 40 different parts, came about by chance. Yet they cannot explain how it did so. In fact, it is impossible that blind chance should have "created" such a magnificent structure. The diagram below shows some of the eye's components.
    Such people do not realize that science has completely eroded the theory of evolution's credibility. Whether on the molecular level or in biology and paleontology, research has invalidated the claims that living things emerged as the result of an evolutionary process. Darwin's theory continues to survive, despite all scientific facts, only because the evolutionists are doing all they can, including deliberately misleading people, to keep it alive. Their writings and speeches are filled with scientific terms that the average person cannot understand. Yet when their words are analyzed, one can find no evidence to support their theory.
    A careful examination of Darwinist publications reveals this fact quite clearly. Their accounts are almost never based upon firm scientific proof. The fundamental areas where the theory collapses are glossed over in a few words, and many fantastic scenarios are written about natural history. They never dwell on such essential questions as how life first emerged from inanimate substances, the fossil record's huge gaps, and the complex systems in living things. They do not do so because whatever they might say or write would contradict their aims and reveal the emptiness of their theory.

    When Charles Darwin (1809-82), the founder of this theory, considered one of the complex systems in living things, in this case the eye, he realized the danger that this posed to his theory and even admitted that thinking about the eye made him cold all over. Like Darwin, today's evolutionist scientists know that their theory has no answer for such complex systems. But instead of admitting this, they seek to overcome the lack of scientific evidence by writing imaginary scenarios and imposing the theory on people by giving it a scientific mask.
    Such methods become obvious during face-to-face debates between evolutionists and those who believe in creation, as well as in evolutionist writings and documentaries. Actually, evolutionists are not bothered by such things as scientific truth or reason, for their sole goal is to make people believe that evolution is a scientific fact.
    yalanliyor38a 1 - Evolution Test! In this way, evolutionist Muslims are influenced by the theory's supposed "scientific" image. They are particularly alarmed by such Darwinist slogans as: "Anyone who does not believe in the theory of evolution is being dogmatic or unscientific," and so give ground on their true beliefs. Influenced by outdated information or evolutionist writings and arguments, they believe that only evolution can account for the emergence of life. They then try to reconcile religion and evolution, for they are unaware of the latest scientific developments as well as the theory's own internal contradictions and complete loss of credibility.
    However, given that evolution and creation are diametrically opposed, proving one means disproving the other. In other words, disproving evolution means proving creation.
    For these reasons, materialists see debates on evolution as a kind of battleground, a direct ideological struggle rather than a scientific matter. Thus they resort to all possible means to obstruct those who believe in creation.

    For example, evolutionist Lerry Flank recommends that the truth of creation be opposed by the following methods:
    Creationist watchers must keep a close eye on the composition of state education boards. Ideally, people who are interested in quality education and in keeping the fundamentalists from using the public schools for their sermonizing should constitute the majority of these state boards... If this fails, and creationist textbooks are actually adopted and approved, then legal action becomes necessary.1
    It is clear from these words that we are not talking about a scientific debate, but a war of ideas waged by evolutionists in a framework of certain strategies. Muslims who defend evolution must be aware of this. Darwinism is not a scientific thesis; rather, it is a system of thought designed to lead people to deny God. As this theory has no scientific foundation, Muslims must not allow themselves to be misled by its arguments and thereby give it any support, no matter how well-intentioned.


    The Effects of Evolutionists Being in the Majority:
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    Prof. Arda Denkel
    The evolutionists' most important ploy to gain widespread acceptance for Darwin's theory is to assert that it is widely accepted within the scientific community. In short, they are claiming validity for their theory based upon the supposed majority of its adherents and the supposed correctness of the majority's view in all cases. By employing such logic, as well as their claim that evolution's truth is further proven by its wide acceptance within the universities, they attempt to use psychological pressure on people, including believers in God, to accept it.
    Arda Denkel, an evolutionist professor of philosophy at The Bosphorus University, probably the most prestigious one in Turkey, even admitted the erroneous nature of this method:
    Does the fact that many respected people or organizations or bodies believe in it prove the theory of evolution to be true? Could the theory be proved by a court verdict? Does the fact that respected and powerful people believe in something make it true? I would like to recall a historical fact. Did not Galileo stand up before all the respected people, lawyers, and particularly scientists of his time and speak the truth on his own, with no support from anyone? Did not the courts of the Inquisition reveal other, similar situations? Gaining the support of respected and influential circles neither creates the truth nor has anything to do with scientific fact.2

    As Denkel noted, wide acceptance of a theory does not prove its truth. In fact, the history of science is full of examples of theories that were first accepted by a minority and then only later came to be accepted as true by the majority.
    Moreover, evolution is not accepted by the entire scientific community, as its proponents would have people believe. Over the last 20-30 years, the number of scientists rejecting it has risen enormously. Most of them abandon their dogmatic belief in Darwinism after seeing the flawless design in the universe and living things. They have published countless works demonstrating the theory's invalidity. Even more important, they are members of prominent universities all over the world, especially in the United States and Europe, and experts and career academics in biology, biochemistry, microbiology, anatomy, paleontology, and other scientific fields.3 Therefore it would be very wrong to say that the majority of the scientific community believes in evolution.

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    Prof. Owen Gingerich
    Prof. Carl Friedrich von Weizsacker
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    S. Jocelyn Bell Burnell
    William Dembski
    Many contemporary scientists reject evolution and accept that God, the Lord of Infinite Intelligence and Might, created the universe. Some of the scientists who accept the truth of creation are, from left to right, Owen Gingerich, professor of astronomy and history of science at Harvard University; Carl Friedrich von Weizsacker, professor of physics at Germany's Max-Planck-Gesellschaft University; Donald Chittick, professor of chemistry at Oregon State University; Robert Matthews, professor of physics at Oxford University; Michael J. Behe, professor of biology at Lehigh University; David Menton, professor of anatomy at Washington University; S. Jocelyn Bell Burnell, professor of physics at the Open University in England; and William Dembski, associate professor in the conceptual foundations of science at Baylor University.
    It would thus have no meaning, even if evolutionists are genuinely in the majority. No majority view is definitely right just because it is the majority view. Muslims who believe in evolution need to know that the Qur'an discusses this matter when relating the fate of the many historical communities who held a similar view and ended up denying Allah and His religion by allowing themselves to be led away from the true path. Allah warns believers against following such deceitful people, and informs humanity that going along with the majority can lead to terrible mistakes:
    If you obeyed most of those on Earth, they would guide you away from Allah's Way. They follow nothing but conjecture. They are only guessing. (Qur'an, 6:116)
    He Who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any flaw in the creation of the All-Merciful. Look again -do you see any gaps? Then look again and again. Your sight will return to you dazzled and exhausted!
    (Qur'an, 67: 3-4)
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    Important Truths Ignored By Muslim Evolutionists

    In the previous chapter, we discussed how Muslims who have been convinced that evolution is a fact, as opposed to a theory, might be unaware of relevant and recent scientific developments that refute Darwinism. This lack of awareness leads Muslim evolutionists to continue to accept ideas and beliefs disproved by science. Furthermore, they ignore the fact that the underlying foundation of evolution reflects a pagan mentality, ascribes divinity to chance and natural occurrences, and has engendered a great deal of oppression, conflict, war, and other catastrophes.
    This chapter will focus on those truths that Muslim evolutionists ignore, and calls upon them to stop supporting the pagan mentality that provides the foundation for materialist-atheist thought.

    Evolution Is an Ancient Pagan Greek Idea
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    A picture showing Thales' (d. 546 bce) idea of a flat Earth floating on water. The picture shows air and fire, two of Earth's four basic elements.
    Contrary to what its supporters claim, evolution is not a scientific theory but a pagan belief. The idea of evolution first appeared in such ancient societies as Egypt, Babylon, and Sumer, after which it passed to ancient Greek philosophers. Pagan Sumerian monuments contain statements denying creation and claiming that living things emerged by themselves as part of a gradual process. According to Sumerian belief, life emerged by itself out of the chaos of water.

    As part of their own superstitious religions, the ancient Egyptians believed that "snakes, frogs, worms, and mice emerged from the mud of the Nile floodwaters." Just like the Sumerians, the ancient Egyptians denied the existence of a Creator and thought that "living things emerged by chance from mud."
    The most important claim of the Greek philosophers Empedocles (fifth century bce), Thales (d. 546 bce), and Anaximander (d. 547 bce) of Miletus was that the first living things were formed from such inanimate substances as air, fire, and water. This theory posited that the first living things suddenly emerged in water and that later on, some of them left the water, adapted to life on land, and began to live there. Thales believed that water was the root of all life, that plants and animals began to develop in water, and that humanity was the end result of this process.4 Anaximander, a younger contemporary of Thales, held that "man arose from the fishes" and the source of life began with a "primordial mass."5
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    Some philosophers, such as Empedocles (d. fifth century bce), believed that Earth was composed of four elements: earth, air, fire, and water. In this seventeenth-century illustration, the four elements are symbolized as rings around the sun.
    Anaximander's verse work On Nature is the first available written work based upon the theory of evolution. In that poem, he wrote that creatures arose from slime that had been dried by the sun. He thought that the first animals were covered with prickly scales and lived in the seas. As these fish-like creatures evolved, they moved onto land, shed their scaly coverings and eventually became human beings.6 (For further details, see The Religion of Darwinism by Harun Yahya, Abu'l Qasim Publishers, Jeddah, 2003) His theory can be considered the first foundation of the present-day theory of evolution, for it has many similarities with Darwinism.
    Empedocles brought earlier ideas together and suggested that the fundamental elements (i.e., earth, air, fire, and water) came together to create bodies. He also believed that man had developed from plant life, and that only chance played any role in this process.7 As mentioned earlier, this concept of chance and its role in creation form the principle basis upon which the theory of evolution is built.

    Heraclitus (d. fifth century bce) claimed that because the universe was in a process of constant change, there was no point in questioning the mythical account of its beginning and maintained that it had no beginning or end. Rather, it simply existed.8 In short, the materialist belief upon which evolution is based also existed in ancient Greece.

    The idea of spontaneous development was supported by many other Greek philosophers, particularly Aristotle (384-22 bce). This idea said that animals, in particular certain worms, insects, and plants, came about by themselves in nature and so did not need to undergo any fertilization process. Maurice Manquat, well known for his studies on Aristotle's ideas on natural history, once said:
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    Heraclitus
    Aristotle was concerned with the origin of life so much that he accepted spontaneous generation (the coming together of inanimate substances to spontaneously form a living thing) in order to explain certain events that could not be accounted for in any other way.9

    On careful inspection, one can see considerable similarities between the ideas of past and present evolutionist thinkers. The roots of the materialist idea that the universe has no beginning and no end, as well as the evolutionist view that living things emerged as the result of chance, lie in pagan Sumerian culture and were common among materialist Greek thinkers. The ideas that life emerged from water and a mixture known as "primordial mass," and living things emerge only because of chance, form the bases of these two ideas that are linked despite the passage of so much time.

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    The Greek philosopher Aristotle
    Thus, Muslim evolutionists support a theory whose roots are embedded in ancient ideas that have been shown to have no scientific basis. Moreover, such ideas were first proposed by ancient materialist thinkers and contain pagan meanings.
    Actually, evolution is not restricted to ancient Sumerian culture or ancient Greek philosophers, for it forms the essence of such major contemporary belief systems as Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism. In other words, evolution is no more than a theory that is completely opposed to Islamic belief.
    Some Muslim evolutionists, despite scientific evidence to the contrary, claim that the Qur'an supports this supposed "creationist theory of evolution" and try to find the source of evolution in the Muslim world. They assert that this idea first emerged from Muslim thinkers and, when their works were translated into foreign languages, evolutionist thought appeared in the West.

    However, the few examples given above clearly reveal that evolution is no more than a primitive belief dating back to ancient pagan societies. It would be a great mistake to try and show that evolutionist thought, built upon materialist foundations, can be ascribed to Muslims when there is absolutely no clear scientific and historical basis to support such a claim.

    Chance Conflicts with the Truth of Creation:
    Those who maintain that there is no contradiction between evolution and creation ignore one important point: Such people believe that Darwinism's main claim is that living species emerged by evolving from each other. However, this is not the case, for evolutionists claim that life emerged as the result of chance, by unconscious mechanisms. In other words, life on Earth came about without a Creator and by itself from inanimate substances.
    Such a claim rejects the existence of a Creator right from the start, and thus cannot be accepted by any Muslim. However, some Muslims who are unaware of this truth see no harm in supporting evolution on the assumption that God could have used evolution to create living things.
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    Prof. Fred Hoyle
    Yet they ignore one important danger: Although they are trying to show that evolution is parallel to religion, in reality they are supporting and actually agreeing with an idea that is quite impossible from their own point of view. Meanwhile, evolutionists turn a blind eye to this situation because it furthers their cause of having society accept their ideas.
    Looking at the matter as a devout Muslim and thinking about it in the light of the Qur'an, a theory that is fundamentally based upon chance clearly cannot have anything in common with Islam. Evolution sees chance, time, and inanimate matter as divine, and ascribes the title of "creator" to these weak and unconscious concepts. No Muslim can accept such a pagan-based theory, for each Muslim knows that Allah, the sole Creator, created everything from nothing. Therefore, he uses science and reason to oppose all beliefs and ideas that conflict with that fact.
    Evolution is a component of materialism and, according to materialism, the universe has no beginning or end, and thus no need for a Creator. This irreligious ideology suggests that the universe, galaxies, stars, planets, sun, and other heavenly bodies, as well as their flawless systems and perfect equilibrium, are the results of chance. In the same way, evolution claims that the first protein and the first cell (the building blocks of life) developed by themselves as the result of a string of blind coincidences. This same ideology claims that the wonders of design in all living things, whether they live on land, in the sea, or in the skies, are the product of chance. Although surrounded on all sides by evidence of creation, starting with the design in their own bodies, evolutionists insist upon ascribing all of that perfection to chance and unconscious processes. In other words, their main characteristic is to see chance as divine in order to deny God's existence. However, such a refusal to accept or to see God's evident existence and greatness changes nothing. God's infinite knowledge and matchless art reveal themselves in everything He creates.
    As a matter of fact, recent scientific advances definitively reject the evolutionists' baseless claims that life emerged by itself and by natural processes. The superior design in life shows that a Creator Who has superior wisdom and knowledge created all living things. The fact that even the simplest organisms are irreducibly complex places all evolutionists in an impossible quandary - a fact that they themselves often admit! For example, the world-famous British mathematician and astronomer Fred Hoyle admits that life could not have come about by chance:
    Once we see, however, that the probability of life originating at random is so utterly minuscule as to make it absurd�10
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    Evolutionists claim that the first living cell came about in the conditions of the primitive Earth, from inanimate substances and the chance effects of natural events.
    The evolutionist Pierre-Paul Grassé confesses that ascribing a creative force to chance is pure fantasy:
    Yet the Darwinian theory is even more demanding: A single plant, a single animal would require thousands and thousands of lucky, appropriate events. Thus, miracles would become the rule: events with an infinitesimal probability could not fail to occur� There is no law against daydreaming, but science must not indulge in it.11
    Those words make the evolutionists' ideological dilemma perfectly clear: Even though they see that their theory is untenable and unscientific, they refuse to abandon it because of their ideological obsession. In another statement, Hoyle reveals why evolutionists believe in chance:
    Indeed, such a theory (that life was assembled by an intelligence) is so obvious that one wonders why it is not widely accepted as being self-evident. The reasons are psychological rather than scientific.12
    What Hoyle describes as a "psychological" reason has conditioned evolutionists to deny creation. All of these reasons are sufficient evidence for Muslim evolutionists to consider evolution as nothing more than a theory designed to deny God.
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    Evolutionists' claim that life formed by itself by chance from inanimate substances is as irrational and illogical as claiming that America's Statue of Liberty was formed by the coincidental coming together of sand and rocks when lightning struck the sea.

    Natural Selection and Mutations Have No Power to Cause Evolution
    Muslim evolutionists who ignore the fact that science has disproven evolution face another dilemma as well: the claim that the 1.5 million living species in nature came about as the result of unconscious natural events.
    According to evolutionists, the first living cell emerged due to chemical reactions in inanimate matter. (Let's recall here that a considerable amount of scientific evidence shows that this is impossible. In addition, researchers who carried out experiments by bringing together the gases that made up Earth's initial atmosphere, as well as the appropriate atmospheric conditions, have been unable to "produce" even the smallest building block of life, the protein.13) Since they have failed to bring about a living organism despite all of the technology and scientific knowledge available to them, it is naturally irrational and illogical to claim that blind chance could have succeeded.
    Evolution also claims that life began with that first cell, grew ever-more complex, and assumed an ever-greater variety until human beings were produced. In brief, the theory goes, unconscious mechanisms in nature must have continuously developed living things. For example, one bacterium contains the genetic code for some 2,000 proteins whereas a human being contains the genetic code for some 200,000 proteins. In other words, an unconscious mechanism "produced" the genetic data for 198,000 new proteins over time.

    A CELL'S FLAWLESS CREATION
    DISPROVES EVOLUTION

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    Even a single cell, the building block of life, possesses an enormously complex structure. The above picture shows just some of the parts that go into making up a cell. There is an extraordinarily complex and flawlessly planned organization between all of these components. To claim that all of this could have come about by chance flies in the face of logic and scientific discoveries.
    That is what evolution claims. Yet does nature really contain a mechanism that can develop a living thing's genetic data?
    The modern theory of evolution - also known as neo-Darwinism, the updated version of Darwin's original theory that takes into account recent discoveries in genetics - proposes two such mechanisms: natural selection and mutation.

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    The evolutionists' imaginary tree of life
    Natural selection means that the strong and those who can adapt to changing natural conditions survive the fight for life, while the rest are eliminated and disappear. For instance, a continual fall in a region's temperature means that certain animal populations that are not resistant to low temperatures are weeded out. Over the long term, only those animals who are resistant to cold temperatures survive and eventually make up the whole population.
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    There is enough information in one human DNA molecule to fill 1,000 books. This giant encyclopedia has been shown to consist of 3 million letters. The flawless creation in DNA is proof of Allah's infinite power and might.
    Alternatively, in the case of rabbits who live with the constant threat of predators, only those who best adapt to the prevailing conditions (e.g., those who can run the fastest), survive and thus pass their features on to subsequent generations. However, careful examination reveals that no new feature actually emerges here, for these rabbits are not turning into a new species or acquiring a new characteristic. Thus one cannot say that natural selection causes evolution.
    This being the case, evolutionists are left with mutation. In order for evolution's claim to be acceptable, mutations must be able to develop a living thing's genetic data. Mutations are defined as errors in a living thing's genes that arise either as the result of external influences (e.g., radiation) or copying faults in DNA. Of course mutations may give rise to change, yet such changes are always destructive. To put it another way, mutations cannot develop living things; rather, they always harm living things.

    Genetics made major advances during the twentieth century. By examining genetic diseases in living things in the light of rapidly developing science, scientists showed that mutations were not biological changes that could contribute something to evolution. This contradicts the evolutionists' claim. Advances in genetics, in particular, resulted in the acknowledgement that some 4,500 supposedly hereditary genetic diseases actually were caused by mutation.
    In order for mutations to become hereditary, they must occur in the reproductive organs (sperm cells in men, ovaries in women). Only this type of genetic change can be transmitted to later generations. Many genetic diseases are caused by such changes in just those very cells. Mutations, on the other hand, form in other bodily organs (e.g., the liver or the brain), and so cannot be transmitted to subsequent generations. Such mutations, called "somatic," cause many cancers through degeneration in the cells' DNA.

    tavsan 1 - Evolution Test! According to natural selection, the strong and those able to adapt to their surroundings survive, while the rest disappear. Evolutionists propose that natural selection caused living things to evolve and resulted in new species. However, natural selection has no such effect; all of the supposed "evidence" presented so far confirms this. tavsan1 1 - Evolution Test! tavsan2 1 - Evolution Test! Cancer is one of the best examples of the damage caused by mutations. Many carcinogenic factors, such as chemical substances and ultraviolet rays, actually produce mutations. Following the recent discovery of oncogenic and tumor-preventing genes that, when they malfunction, particularly effective in causing cancer, researchers realized how mutations lead to cancer. These two types of genes are necessary in order for cells to multiply and for the body to renew itself. If one of them is damaged by mutation, cells begin to grow in an uncontrolled manner and cancer begins to form. We can compare this situation to a stuck gas pedal or a non-working brake in a car. In both cases, the car will crash. In the same way, the cells' uncontrolled growth rate leads first to cancer and then to death. When mutations damage these genes at birth, as in the case of retinoblastoma, the affected babies soon die.

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    Chance mutations are always harmful to humans and all other living things. The horrifying results of the 1986 nuclear accident at Chernobyl show the effect of mutations.
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    The damage done to living things by mutations is not limited to these examples. Almost all mutations observed so far are harmful; only a few are neutral. Despite this, however, evolutionists as well as Muslim evolutionists still try to maintain that mutation is a valid evolutionary mechanism. If species had evolved into one another, as evolutionists claim, millions of advantageous mutations would have had to occur and be present in all reproductive cells.

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    Just as an earthquake destroys a city instead of developing it, chance mutations lead to sickness, deformity, and handicaps in living things.
    Science, as it continues to advance, has discovered millions of harmful mutations and has identified the resulting diseases. However, evolution faces a terrible quandary: Evolutionist scientists can cite no mutations that actually increase genetic data. Pierre Paul Grassé, one of France's best-known zoologists, editor of the 35-volume Traite de Zoologie, and former president of the French Academy of Sciences, has compared mutations to the incorrect letters made while copying a written text. And just like incorrect letters, mutations do not increase information; rather, they damage the already existing data. Grassé states this fact in the following manner:
    Mutations, in time, occur incoherently. They are not complimentary to one another, nor are they cumulative in successive generations toward a given direction. They modify what persists, but they do so in disorder, no matter how... As soon as some disorder, even slight, appears in an organized being, sickness, then death follow. There is no possible compromise between the phenomenon of life and anarchy.14
    Given this fact, mutations, as Grassé puts it, "no matter how numerous they may be,they do not produce any kind of evolution." We can compare the effects of mutations to an earthquake. Just as an earthquake does not help develop or improve a city but actually tears it down, mutations always have negative effects in exactly the same way. From this point of view, the evolutionists' claims regarding mutations are completely unfounded. (For further details, see The Evolution Deceit by Harun Yahya, Taha Publishers, London, 1999).
    "These people of ours have taken gods apart from Him. Why do they not produce a clear authority concerning them? Who could do greater wrong than someone who invents a lie against Allah?"
    (Qur'an, 18: 15)
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    The Errors of Those Who Use Qur'anic Verses To Prove Evolution!


    The fundamental guides for all Muslims who believe in Allah and Islam are the Qur'an and the Sunnah (teachings) of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. The Qur'an contains many verses about the creation of life and the universe. None of these verses gives even the slightest indication of creation through evolution. In other words, the Qur'an does not support the ideas that species evolved from one another or that there is an evolutionary link between them. On the contrary, the Qur'an reveals that Allah created life and the universe miraculously by commanding them to "Be!" When we recall that scientific discoveries also invalidate evolution, we once again see how the Qur'an always runs parallel to science.
    archeopteryx 1 - Evolution Test!archeopteryx1 1 - Evolution Test!archeopteryx2 1 - Evolution Test! Of course, if Allah had so willed, He could have created anything by means of evolution. Yet there is no sign of His doing so in the Qur'an, and not one verse supports the evolutionists' claim that species developed by stages. If creation had taken place in such a way, we would have been able to see its details within the Qur'an. Even though everything is so clear, some Muslims who support Darwinism misinterpret certain verses by ascribing to them meanings that do not agree with the clear and obvious meanings that those verses actually have. In order to defend evolution and provide some Qur'anic evidence for it, the meanings of some verses are distorted, guesswork is relied upon, and prejudiced interpretations are made. About the people in this dangerous situation, Allah says the following:
    Among them is a group who distort the Book with their tongues so that you think it is from the Book when it is not from the Book. They say, "It is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. They tell a lie against Allah, and they know it. (Qur'an, 3:78)
    Those who know the Qur'an and yet twist its verses' original meaning and deliberately misinterpret them are said to commit falsehoods against Allah. No Muslim would willingly do such a thing, for he or she would be too afraid of the consequences. Thus, all comments based upon guesswork and speculation, especially when made by people who know the Qur'an and what it says on such important matters, are morally unacceptable. Of course it would be mistaken to make such a generalization about everyone who claims that evolution is compatible with religion, because some of them do not think about what such a claim means and others do not realize the underlying dangers. Even so, people must not mislead others on what the Qur'an says by speaking on Allah's behalf and seeking to prove evolution by using its verses. Those who do so must reconsider the seriousness of what they are doing and avoid making any such interpretations or comments, for Allah will hold them accountable for their words. Not only do such people deceive themselves, but they also deceive those who read their words - a heavy responsibility indeed.
    At the root of the question is this: Muslims who believe in evolution accept it as a scientific fact and thus approach the Qur'an with the idea that it must confirm evolution. Thus they load every word that might have an evolutionary interpretation with meanings that it cannot possibly bear. When the Qur'an is regarded as a whole, or when the verse in question is read in conjunction with those before and after it, one can seen that the explanations offered are forced and invalid.
    In this chapter, we shall consider those verses that Muslims who accept evolution present as evidence for evolution. We shall then respond to their claims, again from the Qur'an, and compare them with the interpretations made by prominent Islamic scholars.
    However, we should be aware of the following basic fact: The Qur'an must be read and interpreted in the form that Allah revealed it, with a completely sincere heart and without being influenced by any non-Islamic idea or philosophy. Approaching the Qur'an in this manner will reveal that it contains no information about creation by evolution. On the contrary, it will be seen that Allah created living things and everything else with the single command "Be!" If half-ape half-human creatures really existed before Prophet Adam, Allah would have explained that in a clear and easily understandable manner. The fact that the Qur'an is quite clear and very understandable shows that the claim of evolutionary creation is untrue.

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    Evolutionist scientists draw their strength from forgeries, distortions, and works of fantasy, and not, as some Muslims think, from scientific evidence. Reconstructions are an example of these distortions.Evolutionists shape features that leave no trace in the fossil record (e.g., the appearance of nose and lips, hair style, the shape of the eyebrows, and body hair) in order to support evolution. They portray these imaginary creatures as walking with their families, hunting, or engaged in some other aspect of daily life. Yet none of these creatures is supported by the existence of even one fossil.



    1. THE ERROR THAT MAN WAS CREATED BY EVOLUTIONARY STAGES
    What is the matter with you that you do not hope for honor from Allah, when He created you by successive stages? (Qur'an, 71:13-14)
    Those who support evolutionary creation interpret the words successive stages as meaning "going through evolutionary stages." However, interpreting the Arabic word atwaran as evolutionary stages, which is no more than a personal opinion, is not unanimously accepted by all Islamic scholars.
    Atwar (situation, condition) is the plural of tawru, and appears in that form in no other Qur'anic verse. The Islamic world's interpretations of this verse demonstrate that fact.
    In his interpretation, Muhammed Hamdi Yazir of Elmali translated the verse as: "He has created you stage by stage through several conditions." In his commentary, he described these stages as "steps of evolution." However, this description has nothing to do with evolution, which proposes that man's roots lie in other living species. In fact, immediately afterwards he says what these stages are:
    According to the explanation given by Ebus Suud43 first come the elements, then nutriments, then mixtures, then sperm, then a piece of flesh, then flesh and bone, and this is finally shaped with a completely different creation. "Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!" (Qur'an, 23:14) Is not Allah, the Almighty Creator, worthy of praise and respect? Can He not raise you still further with another form and creation? Or can He not also destroy you and cast you down into sorrowful torment? Why do you not think of these things?
    As the above statements show, this verse describes how a person reaches his or her mother's womb as a sperm, develops as an embryo and then as a piece of flesh, and then develops into flesh and bone before emerging into the world as a human being.
    In Imam al-Tabari's commentary, Surah Nuh: 14 is translated as "In fact, he created you by stages," and interpreted this as meaning, "You were first in the form of a sperm, then He created you as a blood clot, then a small piece of flesh."44

    Omar Nasuhi Bilmen translates the verse as "In fact, He created you through various degrees," and goes on to interpret it as follows:
    He (created) you through various degrees. You were first of all a seed, then a drop of blood. You became a piece of flesh and possessed bones, then you were born as a human being. Are not all these assorted and exemplary occurrences and changes shining proofs of the existence, power, and greatness of a Lord of Creation? Why do you not think of your own creation?45
    As we see here, Muslim Qur'anic scholars agree that the interpretation of Surah Nuh: 14 refers to the process involved in the development of the human being from the joining of a sperm and an egg. That the verse is to be interpreted in this way is clear from the principle of "interpreting Qur'anic verses in the light of other Qur'anic verses," because in other verses Allah explains the stages of creation as being those inside the mother's womb. That is why atwaran has to be translated in this way. It is not justified to use the word as support for the theory of evolution, which tries to tie the origins of man to another living species.






    2. THE ERROR THAT THE QUR'AN CONTAINS SIGNS OF THE EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS
    There surely came over man a period of time when he was a thing not worth mentioning. (Qur'an, 76:1)
    The same people also use this verse as evidence for evolution. In translations based on personal interpretation, the expression "when he was a thing not worth mentioning" is expressed as a statement of "previous states before man became man." However, this claim is just as far from the truth as the first one.
    The Arabic part of the underlined section runs as follows:

    lam yakun :he was not

    shay'an : a thing

    madhkuran : mentioned


    Trying to use this expression as evidence for evolution is really forcing the words. In fact, Qur'anic scholars do not interpret this verse as indicating an evolutionary process. For example, Hamdi Yazir of Elmali makes the following comments:
    In the beginning were elements and minerals, then vegetable and animal nutrients-"a kind of clay" (Qur'an, 23:12) were created out of them in stages. Then, something emerged very slowly and by stages from the sperm that was filtered from them. But that was not something called a human being. Just as mankind is not eternal, nor is his substance; that emerged later. Man came into being long after the beginning of time and the creation of the universe.46
    Omer Nasuhi Bilmen explains the verse in this way:
    These verses announce that Allah created man to see and hear out of a drop of water when he was not, and that He has set a test for him.... Mankind did not exist in the beginning, but was created later as a figured body out of a drop of water, soil, and clay. That person was not known at that time, his name and why he had been created were a mystery to the inhabitants of Earth and sky. He then began to be reminded that he has a soul.47
    Imam al-Tabari explains the verse as meaning: "Such a long period of time passed since the time of Adam that at that time he was not even a thing that had any worth and superiority. He was nothing but sticky and modified clay."48
    For this reason, to see the expression of time in this verse as an evolutionary period is purely subjective.






    3. THE ERROR THAT CREATION OUT OF WATER INDICATES EVOLUTIONARY CREATION
    We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We gave him (the gifts) of hearing and sight. (Qur'an, 76:2)
    Those who defend evolutionary creation try to show that the statements in many verses that man was created out of water are evidence that all living things emerged from water.
    However, such verses are always interpreted by Qur'anic scholars and commentators as referring to creation from the joining of a sperm and an egg. For instance, Muhammed Hamdi Yazir of Elmali comments on the above verse as follows:
    ... he was created from a nutfah in the form of water. The nutfah is pure water. It also means seminal fluid. Nutfah and seminal fluid traditionally have the same meaning. But at the end of Surat al-Qiyamah it says "a nutfah in the ejected semen" (Qur'an, 75:37), thus stating that the nutfah is part of the semen. As it is reported in Sahih al-Muslim, "Children do not come from the entire fluid." And the hadith, speaking of every little part of the whole, does not say, "Every part of a fluid," but rather speaks of one part of "the whole fluid," and that a child does not come from the entire fluid, but from just one part of it. The nutfah is just one pure part of the semen.49
    Ibn al-Tabari interprets it as meaning, "We have created the descendants of Adam out of the mixing of male and female fertilizing fluids."50
    Omer Nasuhi Bilmen explains it in this manner:
    ... (We created man from a mingled drop.) We have formed him out of the male and female fluids that mix together. Yes... Human beings were, for a period of time, a nutfah, in other words, crystal clear, pure water, and then for a certain period of time, an 'alaq, in other words, a clot of blood, and then a mudgha, in other words, a lump of flesh. Later, bones are formed and wrapped around with flesh, and come to life...51
    As we have seen from these explanations, there is no connection between man's creation from "a mingled drop" and the theory of evolution's claim that man emerged by stages from a single cell that developed by chance in water. As all great Qur'anic scholars have stated, this verse draws our attention to the fact of creation inside the mother's womb.
    When we examine another verse where the stages of human creation are discussed, the fundamental error in these comments is clearly revealed:
    Mankind! If you are in any doubt about the Rising, know that We created you from dust, then from a drop of sperm, then from a clot of blood, then from a lump of flesh, formed yet unformed, so We may make things clear to you. We make whatever We will to stay in the womb until a specified time, and then We bring you out as children so that you can reach your full maturity. Some of you die and some of you revert to the lowest form of life so that, after having knowledge, they then know nothing at all. And you see the ground dead and barren; then when We send down water onto it it quivers and swells and sprouts with luxuriant plants of every kind. (Qur'an, 22:5)
    In this verse, the stages of the creation of a human being are described. Dust, i.e., substances both organic and inorganic, which are found in their elementary forms on and in the earth, is the raw material that includes the basic minerals and elements in the human body. The second stage is the coming together of these materials in the seminal fluid, which is described in the Qur'an as a mingled drop. This drop contains the sperm that possesses the genetic information and structure necessary to fertilize the egg inside the mother's womb. In short, the raw material for a human being is (dust of) the earth, the essence of which is collected in a drop of seminal fluid in a manner that will bring about a human being. Following the water stage, a human being's developmental stages inside the mother's womb are described in the Qur'an. The theory of evolution, on the other hand, assumes the existence of millions of hypothetical stages (the first cell, single-celled creatures, multi-celled creatures, invertebrates, vertebrates, reptiles, mammals, primates, and countless similar stages) between the origination of life in water to a human being's formation. In the sequence presented by the verse, however, it is clear that there is no such logic or description, for a human being takes on the form of an 'alaq after he or she is in the form of a drop of water.
    For this reason, it is clear that the verse is not describing the different evolutionary stages undergone by a human being, but rather the stages of creation from before and inside the mother's womb right up to old age.
    Other verses stating that human beings and other living things were created from water also contain no meaning that could be used to support evolution. The following verses are among those that contain such statements:
    Do those who disbelieve not see that the heavens and Earth were sewn together and then We unstitched them, and that We made from water every living thing? So will they not believe? (Qur'an, 21:30)
    Allah created every animal from water. Some of them go on their bellies, some of them on two legs, and some on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Allah has power over all things. (Qur'an, 24:45)
    The verses below clearly state that the "drop of water" is semen:
    He created the two sexes - male and female - out of a sperm-drop when it spurted forth (min nutfatin idha tumna); that He is responsible for the second existence. (Qur'an, 53:45-47)



    min:
    from
    nutfatin: nutfah, sperm-drop

    idha:
    when...

    tumna:
    be spurted forth
    Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm? (nutfatan min maniyin yumna) (Qur'an, 75:37)

    nutfatan:
    nutfah, a drop of water
    min: from

    maniyin:
    sperm

    yumna:
    being ejaculated
    Man has only to look at that from which he was created. He was created from a spurting fluid (Khuliqa min ma'in dafiqin), emerging from between the backbone and the breastbone. (Qur'an, 86:5-7)

    khuliqa:
    was created
    min: from

    ma'in:
    water

    dafiqin:
    suddenly erupting, spurting, being caused to flow



    Some Qur'anic commentators think that "the creation of living things from water" contains a meaning that parallels the theory of evolution. However, this view is seriously flawed. The verses reveal that water is the raw material for living things by saying that all living things were created from it. In fact, modern biology has revealed that water is the most fundamental component of all living bodies, for the human body is approximately 70 percent water. Water permits movement inside the cell, between cells, and between tissues. Without it, there would be no life.






    4. THE ERROR THAT CREATION FIRST FROM DUST AND THEN FROM WATER INDICATES EVOLUTIONARY CREATION
    ... Do you then disbelieve in Him Who created you from dust, then from a drop of sperm, and then formed you as a man? (Qur'an, 18:37)
    Imam al-Tabari comments on this verse as follows:
    ... Would you deny Allah, Who created your father Adam from dust, then created you from a man and a woman's fluids, then wrapped you in human form? Allah, Who gave you these things and made you what you are, brought you into being to make you another living thing after you die and return to soil.52
    Omer Nasuhi Bilmen's commentary on the same verse states:
    Do you deny the Almighty Allah Who created the Prophet Adam, the origin of your race and the cause of your creation, (from dust), Who then created you and (formed you as a man after creating you) from a nutfah and a drop of sperm, Who brought you into being as a complete human being as a result of different stages of life? Because denying the afterlife means denying the Almighty Allah, Who gives you the news that it will happen and Who has the power to make it happen.53
    As these commentators indicate, using such verses as evidence for evolutionary creation is no more than pure subjectivism, for they in no way bear the meanings that the evolutionists attribute to them. The expression creation from dust describes the creation of Prophet Adam, and creation from water refers to the development of a human being, starting with the sperm. It is indicated in the verse below that Allah created a human being directly from dried clay. This verse, which describes Prophet Adam's creation, does not speak of a stage:
    When your Lord said to the angels: "I am creating a human being out of dried clay formed from fetid black mud. When I have formed him and breathed My Spirit into him, fall down in prostration in front of him!" (Qur'an, 15:28-29)
    If the Qur'anic account of creation's stages is read carefully, bearing in mind the consecutive processes, it will be realized immediately that such an evolutionary view is incorrect.
    The Qur'an contains many verses indicating that Prophet Adam, peace be upon him, was not created through an evolutionary stage. One of them reads:
    The likeness of 'Isa in Allah's sight is the same as Adam. He created him from earth and then He said to him, "Be!" and he was. (Qur'an, 3:59)
    The above verse states that Allah created Prophets Adam and 'Isa, peace be upon them, in the same way. As we stressed earlier, Prophet Adam was created with no parents, from the earth, at Allah's command "Be!" Prophet Jesus also was created without father, by Allah's Will expressed through the command "Be!" By means of this command, Maryam, peace be upon her, became pregnant with Jesus:
    (Maryam) veiled herself from them. Then We sent Our Spirit to her, and it took on for her the form of a handsome, well-built man. She said: "I seek refuge from you with the All-Merciful, if you do your duty." He said: "I am only your Lord's messenger, so that He can give you a pure boy." She asked: "How can I have a boy when no man has touched me and I am not an unchaste woman?" He replied: "It will be so! Your Lord says: 'That is easy for Me. It is so that We can make him a Sign for mankind and a mercy from Us.' It is a matter already decreed." (Qur'an, 19:17-21)
    In the other verses that refer to creation from water and earth, it is not man's evolutionary stages that are being described, but the stages of human creation before the womb, during it, and after birth.
    Mankind! If you are in any doubt about the Rising, know that We created you from dust, then from a drop of sperm, then from a clot of blood, then from a lump of flesh, formed yet unformed, so We may make things clear to you. We make whatever We will to stay in the womb until a specified time and then We bring you out as children so that you can reach your full maturity. Some of you die and some of you revert to the lowest form of life so that, after having knowledge, they then know nothing at all. And you see the ground dead and barren; then when We send down water onto it it quivers and swells and sprouts with luxuriant plants of every kind. (Qur'an, 22:5)
    He created you from earth, then from a drop of sperm, then from a clot of blood, then He brings you out as infants, then so you may achieve full strength, then so you may become old men - though some of you may die before that time - so that you may reach a predetermined age and so that hopefully you will use your intellect. (Qur'an, 40:67)
    Out of a sperm-drop when it spurted forth (Qur'an, 53:46)
    5. THE ERROR THAT THE FIRST MAN WAS CREATED OVER TIME
    Your Lord said to the angels, "I am going to create a human being out of clay." (Qur'an, 38:71)
    Another error in evolutionary creation stems from the faulty interpretation of the above verse. Evolutionists claim that the underlined phrase above indicates a slow creation over time. However, the original Arabic makes it clear that this is a purely subjective view and entirely contradictory:
    "inni khaliqun basharan min tinin" means "I am He Who created a human being out of clay."
    The verse says nothing like "I am creating." In fact, the verse continues, "When I have formed him and breathed My Spirit into him, fall down in prostration to him!" It is clear from this that the verb create here takes place in a single instant.
    Indeed, no Qur'anic scholar translates it as "I am creating." For instance, a Turkish Muslim scholar, Suleyman Ates's commentary reads:
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    The Originator of the heavens and earth. When He decides on something, He just says to it, " Be" and it is.
    (Qur'an, 2:117)
    Your Lord told the angels "I am going to create a human being out of clay."
    Allah told the angels He was going to create a human being out of putrid clay. After giving the clay human form and breathing His Own Spirit into him, he told the angels to prostrate before him. They all did so. Only Satan did not prostrate himself to man's ancestor, saying that he who was created from fire was better than a human being created from clay.
    Imam al-Tabari translates the same verse as, "I am going to create a human being out of clay," and provides this commentary:
    ... The Lord once told the angels, "I am going to create a human being out of clay. When I create him, order his form, and breathe My Spirit into him, you will prostrate before him."54
    Those who defend evolutionary creation also cite the following verse to support the thesis that human beings were created through a process:
    He Who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay. (Qur'an, 32:7)
    According to such peoples' interpretations, the underlined expression refers to a process, in this case an evolutionary process. Yet it does not actually refer to such a thing at all. As we have stressed throughout this book, a great many verses describe in detail Allah's creation from nothing, and none of them can be interpreted to mean an evolutionary process. The following verses stress that Allah is in a constant state of creation.
    He Who originates creation and then regenerates it and provides for you from out of heaven and earth. Is there another god besides Allah? Say: "Bring your proof if you are being truthful." (Qur'an, 27:64)
    Have they not seen how Allah brings creation out of nothing, then reproduces it? That is easy for Allah. (Qur'an, 29:19)
    Allah originates creation, then will regenerate it, and then you will be returned to Him. (Qur'an, 30:11)
    Allah's constant creation of every detail in the universe does not imply evolution. Like the other such interpretations, this one is very forced. Moreover, when the Qur'an is taken as a whole, such an assertion is found to have no true basis. Omer Nasuhi Bilmen interprets the verse to mean "... He created the Prophet Adam from earth,"55 and Imam al-Tabari as "He commenced the creation of Adam from clay."56
    Evolutionist Muslims cite the verses below, especially the underlined part, to support their case:
    O man! What has deluded you in respect of your Noble Lord? He Who created you and formed you and proportioned you and assembled you in whatever way He willed. (Qur'an, 82:6-8)
    Yet it would be forcing the verse's meaning to say that it refers to an evolutionary process. In fact, Hamdi Yazir of Elmali interprets the verse as follows:
    "The Lord created you. It is clear that creation here means bringing into being prior to ordering the body and the organs, giving measure and form and bringing the parts together. We are also told that existence, the essence of every blessing, is the most important Divine Favor and Kindness.
    He then ordered your body and organs. It is stated that "He created you from dust, then from a drop of sperm, then formed you as a man" (Qur'an, 18:37) and, as in many other verses, that man was brought to the stage at which he could have the soul breathed into him in stages; He ordered your body, organs, and powers, and gave you harmony and moderation. There are two interpretations here, one originating from 'adl and the other from ta'dil. Since they both mean "balancing" and "normalizing," several interpretations have been made stating that the "creation in order" has been made perfect.
    According to the account by Muqatil, the expression in Surat at-Qiyama: 4 that "We are well able to reshape his fingers," means that the body is well-proportioned and orderly, as the matching and details of the twin organs (e.g., the eyes, ears, hands, and feet) is known from anatomy.57
    According to Abu Ali Farisi, the expression "He proportioned you" actually means "He shaped you in the most beautiful form, and with this proportion gave you the capacity to perceive reason, ideas and might, and gave you dominion over plants and other living things. He brought you forth in a state of maturity far exceeding that of the other beings in the world." This is compatible with the meanings of "When I have formed him and breathed My Spirit into him" (Qur'an, 15:29) and "favored them greatly over many We have created" (Qur'an, 17:70). All of these are a blessing and kindness from Allah.58
    Omer Nasuhi Bilmen interprets the verse in these terms:
    Yes. Your Lord (Who created you) gave you form from nothingness (then shaped you), gave you sound and perfect organs (and proportioned you). He proportioned your organs, with a pleasing beauty and natural disposition.59
    Imam al-Tabari states that Surat al-Infitar: 7 refers to man being created within an order:
    Oh Man, the Lord Who created you made that creation ordered and produced you in a healthy, ordered and correct form. (In other words he created a complete human being with ordered height, sound dimensions and in the best possible form and appearance.) Allah produced you with the beauty or ugliness He saw fit.60
    As can be seen from the above accounts, the statements are very clear; they point to Allah's sound, ordered, and complete creation of the first man. Similar statements are in fact to be found in many other verses. For instance, Surat as-Sajda: 7-9 says:
    He Who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay; then produced his seed from an extract of base fluid; then (He) formed him and breathed His Spirit into him and gave you hearing, sight and hearts. What little thanks you show! (Qur'an, 32: 7-9)
    The word "creation" was first used in these verses, which then went on to say that He created eyes, ears, and hearts. Thus, we are being told that all of these stages happened at the same time; in other words, that the first man's eyes, ears, and hearts were created together, and that he was created in one moment. It is a grave error to interpret these verses as referring to human evolution. In fact, the great Islamic scholars all agree about this verse's interpretation. For instance, Imam al-Tabari says:
    ... He then brought forth man as a complete being in an ordered form, then breathed his soul into him, and thus made him a speaking creature ... He gave the ears with which you hear, the eyes with which you see, and the hearts with which you distinguish between right and wrong, and you must give thanks for these gifts ...61
    Omer Nasuhi Bilmen's interpretation reads: "The Lord ordered man who started to take form, completed his body while it was still in his mother's womb, and formed it in the appropriate manner (and then breathed His Spirit into it). In other words, He gave him life and inspired the vital force in his soul ... The Lord gave you such beneficial powers (hearing) that thanks to these you hear the words spoken to you, and created your eyes and hearts with which you see what is around you and distinguish between what is beneficial and what is not. Each of these is a great divine blessing."62



    6. THE ERROR THAT PROPHET ADAM WAS NOT THE FIRST MAN:
    Another claim put forward regarding evolutionary creation is that Prophet Adam, peace be upon him, may not have been the first man and may not even have been a human being. (We absolve Prophet Adam, peace be upon him). The following verse is presented as evidence for this:
    When your Lord said to the angels, "I will create a vicegerent on Earth," they said, "Why put on it one who will cause corruption on it and shed blood when we glorify You with praise and proclaim Your purity?" He said, "I know what you do not know." (Qur'an, 2:30)
    Those who support this claim say that the Arabic verb ja'ala in the expression "I will create a vicegerent" means "to appoint." In other words, they suggest that Prophet Adam was not the first man, but that he was "appointed" as a vicegerent among many people. However, in the Qur'an, this verb has the following meanings:
    To create, invent, translate, make, place and render
    Some examples of Qur'anic verses where ja'ala is used are:
    He created you from a single self, then produced (ja'ala) its mate from it, and sent down livestock to you - eight kinds in pairs... (Qur'an, 39:6)
    Say: "He brought you into being and gave (ja'ala) you hearing, sight and hearts. What little thanks you show! (Qur'an, 67:23)
    (Do you not see how He) placed the moon as a light in them and made (ja'la) the sun a blazing lamp? (Qur'an, 71:16)
    Allah has spread (ja'la) the ground out as a carpet for you (Qur'an, 71:19)
    As can be seen from the above verses, ja'ala has various meanings. Furthermore, several verses state that Prophet Adam, peace be upon him, was created from dust. These verses make it clear that Prophet Adam, peace be upon him, was not just one man among many, but that he possessed a special and different creation.
    The Qur'an reveals another important fact about Prophet Adam: his removal from the Garden of Eden. It says in the verses:
    Children of Adam! Do not let Satan tempt you into trouble, as He expelled your parents from the Garden, stripping them of their covering, and disclosing to them their private parts. He and his tribe see you from where you do not see them. We have made the demons friends of those who do not believe. (Qur'an, 7:27)
    We said: "Adam, live in the Garden, you and your wife, and eat freely from it wherever you will. But do not approach this tree and so become wrongdoers." But Satan made them slip up by means of it, expelling them from where they were. We said: "Go down from here as enemies to each other! You will have residence on Earth and enjoyment for a time." (Qur'an, 2:35-36)
    The verses' statements are perfectly clear. Allah created Prophet Adam, peace be upon him, from dust. Prophet Adam is a special creation that emerged first from his existence in heaven and then from his removal from it. Yet evolutionist Muslims ignore this evident truth and maintain that "heaven" here refers not to the Heaven in the hereafter but to a beautiful area on Earth, despite the fact that the Qur'an specifies many features of the heaven in which Prophet Adam was created. For example, that Heaven contains both angels and the devil, and the angels speak with Allah. It is a mistake to produce forced interpretations and seek evidence of evolution when the verses are so clear on this matter.
    Many verses state that all people are descended from Prophet Adam, peace be upon him. As the Qur'an tells us:
    When your Lord took out all their descendants from the loins of the children of Adam and made them testify against themselves "Am I not your Lord?" they said: "We testify that indeed You are!" Lest you say on the Day of Rising: "We knew nothing of this." Or lest you say: "Our forefathers associated others with Allah before our time, and we are merely descendants coming after them. So are You going to destroy us for what those purveyors of falsehood did?" (Qur'an, 7:172-173)
    Prophet Adam, peace be upon him, was the first man and Allah's first messenger. The verses are so clear on this matter that there is no need for any commentary. All that people have to do is read the Qur'an with a sincere heart and listen to their conscience. Allah will reveal the truth to those who read the verses with that intent.






    7. THE ERROR THAT THE "FOREFATHERS" MENTIONED IN THE QUR'AN REFER TO EVOLUTIONARY ANCESTORS
    Another matter that Muslim evolutionists try to portray as evidence for their claims is the expression our forefathers, which appears in several verses. According to their erroneous interpretation, this expression refers directly to man's primitive ancestors. Their rationale for this is that the word forefathers appears in the plural in the Qur'an. Two of the verses in question read:
    He (Musa) said, "Your Lord and the Lord of your forefathers, the previous peoples." (Qur'an, 26:26)
    There is no god but Him - He gives life and causes to die - your Lord and the Lord of your forefathers, the previous peoples. (Qur'an, 44:8)
    However, this is a forced claim because the use of the word in the plural form is familiar and definitely cannot be used as a basis for an evolutionist interpretation.
    This expression occurs in many other verses, among them Surat al-Baqara: 133. Here, "forefathers" does not refer to any evolutionary process, but to preceding generations. In the same way, the term "forefathers, the previous peoples" in the past refers to past generations. The expression carries no evolutionary meaning:
    Or were you present when death came to Ya'qub and he said to his sons, "What will you worship when I have gone?" They said, "We will worship your God, the God of your forefathers, Ibrahim, Isma'il and Ishaq - one God. We are Muslims submitted to Him." (Qur'an, 2:133)
    8. THE ERROR ABOUT THE FORM OF HUMAN CREATION
    Allah caused you to grow from the earth, and then will return you to it and bring you out again. (Qur'an, 71:17-18)
    Evolutionist Muslims view this verse as a vital foundation upon which they can base their views. The expression "Allah caused you to grow from the earth" is presented as evidence for inorganic evolution. As is clearly indicated in the verse's interpretation, however, it expresses the creation of the first human being from earth. Hamdi Yazir of Elmali offers the same interpretation:
    There are two aspects to the verse. The first is that saying He created you from earth means that He created your father from earth, and began the process of creating your race by creating him from earth. The other is that he created all of you from earth, because Allah creates us from nourishment, from plants, from earth.63
    Omer Nasuhi Bilmen offers this interpretation of Surah Nuh 17-18:
    O people! Consider this. Allah made you like a plant from earth. In other words, "He has created Adam, your forefather, from earth, or your essential substance (zygote) came into existence from plants and several food stuffs growing in the earth. People then grow and live. (Then) O people, He will return you to it. In other words: When you die, you will return to the earth and become part of the soil. (And) Then He will take you out of the graves and drive you all to the Judgment Day. These are facts.64
    Imam al-Tabari's commentary states that: "Allah created you from dust of the earth. He made you from nothing.... He will later return you to your original states, to the earth. You will return to how you were before you were created. He can bring you back from the earth alive when He chooses."65
    As we have seen from these interpretations by Qur'anic scholars, this verse cannot serve as a basis for evolutionary creation.
    What is more, the claim of inorganic evolution has no scientific basis. The idea that lifeless substances could come together to form life is an unscientific one that has not been confirmed by any experiment or observation. Quite the contrary: French biologist Louis Pasteur (1822-95) showed that life can only come from life. This shows that life was definitely consciously created. In other words, Allah created all living things. (For more detail about the scientific proof and evolutionist deceptions on this subject please refer to The Evolution Deceit by Harun Yahya, Taha Publishers, London, 1999, and Darwinism Refuted by Harun Yahya, Goodword Publishers, New Delhi, 2003)



    9. THE ERROR THAT THE QUR'AN POINTS TO NATURAL SELECTION
    One of evolution's most fundamental claims is that natural selection is an evolutionary force. As we saw in earlier chapters, natural selection is an evolutionist deception that maintains that the strong survive while the weak are eliminated over time.
    However, modern science shows that natural selection has no evolutionary force and cannot cause species to develop or new ones to appear. However, these scientific facts, which Darwinists choose to ignore because of their materialist concerns, also are ignored by Muslim evolutionists. Some Muslim circles support this dogmatic Darwinist view and even try to provide extremely forced Qur'anic evidence for it. For example:
    Your Lord creates and chooses whatever He wills. The choice is not theirs. Glory be to Allah! He is exalted above anything they associate with Him! (Qur'an, 28:68)
    This verse reveals those to whom Allah will show the true path and those prophets He will announce as messengers. It is a great mistake to say that the verse points toward evolutionary natural selection.
    Qur'anic scholars unanimously agree on this interpretation. For instance, Imam al-Tabari offers the following commentary:
    Your Lord creates what He wills out of His servants, and selects those He chooses to follow the true path. They have no right of choice in the matter. They have no right to choose to do as they wish...66
    The great scholar Omer Nasuhi Bilmen offers this interpretation:
    In those holy verses, Allah declares His creative Power, that He favors and chooses whom He wishes, His Wisdom and Might, His Unity, His meriting praise and splendor, His Divine Command, and that all His servants will be summoned to His spiritual Presence. In other words, no one can prevent the Almighty's favoring and choosing in any way. Whatever His servants choose is not effective on their own. With all due respect, Allah is not obliged to create what they favor and prefer. Allah does not send His prophets upon the preference and opinion of the people to whom He has sent His prophets, but only upon His divine Preference. Only He knows how and by which means goodness and prosperity will manifest. He has no partners, nothing may exist against His eternal Will, and no one's will may be against His exalted Determining and Selecting.67
    Hamdi Yazir of Elmali interprets the verse as follows:
    Your Lord creates and selects what He chooses. In other words, He creates what He wills and chooses those He wills from whom He has created. He imposes upon them such duties as prophethood and intercession. They have no choice in the matter. Apart from those Allah chooses, they have no right to select other partners or intercessors.68
    A second verse that evolutionist Muslims offer is:
    Praise be to Allah, the Bringer into Being of the heavens and Earth, He who made the angels messengers, with wings - two, three, or four. He adds to creation in any way He wills. Allah has power over all things. (Qur'an, 35:1)
    Such Muslims suggest the verse is evidence for evolutionary development. However, they have to twist the verse's true meaning in order to derive such a meaning. It also conflicts with reason and logic, for the verse talks about the creation of the angels. Imam al-Tabari interprets the verse as follows: "He can increase the number of an angel's wings to the extent that He wills. He can carry out the same process in all living things. Creation and command are in His hands."69 Omer Nasuhi Bilmen agrees, "He is so powerful that He decides on angels' wings and powers."70



    10. THE ERROR OF SHOWING THE QUR'AN AS EVIDENCE FOR MUTATION
    Just as with natural selection, evolutionist Muslims misinterpret and force Qur'anic verses when it comes to mutation.
    However, to think that a natural mechanism that has nothing but destructive effects could be evidence for evolution is a terrible error. No evolutionary effect of mutation has ever been observed. (For more detail on the scientific evidence about this subject, please see Darwinism Refuted by Harun Yahya, Goodword Publishers, New Delhi, 2003, Evolution Deceit by Harun Yahya, Taha Publishers, London, 1999) The important thing here is the evidence that evolutionist Muslims who believe that mutation is a mechanism of evolution try to offer from the Qur'an. They completely twist some verses away from their actual meaning. The verses in question read:
    If We willed, We could transform them where they stand so they would neither be able to go out nor return. (Qur'an, 36:67)
    You are well aware of those of you who broke the Sabbath. We said to them, "Be apes, despised, cast out." (Qur'an, 2:65)
    When they were insolent about what they had been forbidden to do, We said to them, "Be apes, despised, cast out!" (Qur'an, 7:166)
    Say: "Shall I tell you of a reward with Allah far worse than that: that of those whom Allah has cursed and with whom He is angry - turning some of them into monkeys and into pigs - and who worshipped false gods? Such people are in a worse situation and further from the right way." (Qur'an, 5:60)

    So He (Musa) threw down his staff and there it was, unmistakably a snake. (Qur'an, 7:107)
    Unless someone believes that it is necessary to twist and force the truth to find some Qur'anic evidence for evolution, it is impossible to see the verses as any kind of evidence for mutation.
    The first four verses speak of the miraculous way in which Allah changes living things' bodies. The subject of the fifth verse is not even living, which makes it impossible to suggest it undergoes mutation. Evolutionist Muslims' portrayal of these verses as evidence for evolution shows just how corrupt, forced, and un-Islamic the idea of evolutionary creation truly is.






    11. THE ERROR THAT THERE IS A FAMILIAL CONNECTION BETWEEN MAN AND APE IN THE QUR'AN
    One verse that is often wrongly interpreted during debates on evolution, and which is interpreted by some individuals as indicating that theory, is the verse regarding Allah's turning a group of Jews into monkeys:
    You are well aware of those of you who broke the Sabbath. We said to them, "Be apes, despised, cast out." We made it an exemplary punishment for those there then, and those coming afterwards, and a warning to the heedful. (Qur'an, 2:65-66)
    This cannot be construed in a manner parallel to the theory of evolution, for:
    1) The punishment mentioned might be in a spiritual sense. In other words, it is possible that the Jews in question were compared to monkeys in the sense of character and not in their actual physical appearance.
    2) If the punishment in question did happen physically, that would be a miracle outside the laws of nature. We are talking about a sudden, supernatural miracle by the will of Allah here, a conscious creation. Evolution proposes that different species turned into each other over millions of years, by chance and in stages. For this reason, this Qur'anic account has nothing to do with the scenario put forward by those who support evolution.
    In fact, the following verse reads: "We made it an exemplary punishment for those who were living at that time and those who will come later, and a warning to the heedful." This verse indicates that the people in question were turned into apes as a warning to those who will come later.
    3) This punishment happened only once and to a limited number of people, whereas the theory of evolution puts forward the illogical and unscientific scenario that apes are related to all people.
    4) The verse says that human beings were turned into apes; evolution says that it happened the other way around.

    5) Qur'an, 5:60 relates that a deviant community incurred Allah's wrath and was turned into apes and pigs. It reads:
    Say: "Shall I tell you of something with Allah far worse than that: that of those whom Allah has cursed and with whom He is angry - turning some of them into monkeys and into pigs - and who worshipped false deities? Such people are in a worse situation and further from the right way." (Qur'an, 5:60)
    In this situation, the web of flawed logic that we have been considering throughout this book produces the unrealistic conclusion that the verse contains not only an evolutionary link between human beings and apes, but also between human beings and pigs! Not even the evolutionists claim that there is such a link between humans and pigs.
    As we have seen so far, the claim that some verses point toward evolution is an error that contradicts not only the Qur'an but also the theses of the theory of evolution itself.
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    Re: Evolution Test!

    Dr.Trax

    I no longer have any desire to participate in a thread that lies to people.

    You do not want to learn what science has found, so I'm wasting my time talking to you.

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    It is quite amazing how people will reject something as well supported by evidence such as evolution without understanding what the process entails.
    The only people who actually reject this theory are:
    1)people who have not understood it and are unwilling to learn...
    2)those who do understand the theory and having examined it in detail and still reject it do so for no reason other than it goes against their religion
    ther

    blind faith is the worst kind of malady afflicting the human race.

    What I dont understand is why so many creationists dont understand that evolution does not deal with how life began but what happened after life began. It is very common for scientists to say I dont know . Unlike many creationists that just fill in their ignorance with god did id instead of actually critically thinking.

    Evolution is supported by tons of evidence and only creationists seem to reject it.

    I was taught evolution at highschool and my biology teacher told us about vestigial organs, the peppered moths, etc. Having recently researched these on my own due to curiousity and wanting to learn more, I wonder whether she knew she was sparking an interest in me. Of course there are vestigial organs
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestigialangs
    and anyone that believes otherwise is deluding themselves and ignoring reality.
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    I agree. It is not based on wisdom. And since this is fact that shows how the Creator works, they deny their own Creator by believing what they want to believe and not what has been proven to be fact.

    We can only discover what the Creator is. Not force the Creator to be what we want it to be because it suits our ego.


    And I must add that even if you don't believe in a "Creator" as an entity like I and others do then natural forces "created" us, but the two are still the same. It's a logical paradox I'm finding true that science seems to be making stronger as we learn more.
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    Excellent questions MustafaMc! I'll gladly answer your reply. It's Dr.Trax's spamming the forum with propaganda that misrepresents science while ignoring responsibility of answering questions with a mature answer, that has me angry.

    format_quote Originally Posted by MustafaMc View Post
    I am glad that you believe in a Creator. What role do you see that He played in the "origin of species"?
    The most logical conclusion I have been able to find is that the Creator is in the species itself. Exists as a consciousness that directs evolution through us and all that is alive.

    The most powerful "natural selection" there is seems to be "mate selection" where we consciously choose a mate based upon what we with our conscious mind find desirable in our species. From that comes evolution guided by intelligent/conscious thought.

    In the case of the peacock where their evolution is most striking in the tails of the males, the females consciously direct their destiny. And the only way to know what the peacock can in time evolve into, is to ask them how big of a tail is too big. Maybe it is too big when can no longer fly and have to go back to climbing trees with claws then gliding like they did millions of years ago. Or maybe the females think that is disgusting and would rather a smaller tail than a mate that can no longer fly.

    To for sure know where evolution is going, we would have to ask the animals. Even single celled animals have preferences.

    There are problems with guiding evolution this way. For example, a flatter face looks nice to us, but our teeth no longer fit in our mouth properly so we now often have buck-teeth. And walking upright causes back problems, feet get sore easily, and other things. But even though we are not perfect, our design works good enough, with our big brains helping to compensate for advantages that were lost like being able to run up a tree like it was flat land.

    Problems are solved by very undesirable features resulting in not reproducing because of not living long. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so we cannot say that any one of us are not what the Creator wanted because we all are what was expected. It's that over long periods of time everything balances out.

    If we go extinct then another intelligent creature like us has a chance to fill the space we leave behind. But with us crowding out and destroying other species, we slowed down the evolution of other things.

    format_quote Originally Posted by MustafaMc View Post
    I agree with Trumble that evolution is the only viable scientific theory to explain the origin of new species.
    I agree. No other scientific theories even exist. Evolutionary Theory is the only logical explanation for what has been discovered by science. Saying that there is a competing theory is false, there are none, nowhere.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Science101 View Post
    I agree. It is not based on wisdom. And since this is fact that shows how the Creator works, they deny their own Creator by believing what they want to believe and not what has been proven to be fact.

    We can only discover what the Creator is. Not force the Creator to be what we want it to be because it suits our ego.


    And I must add that even if you don't believe in a "Creator" as an entity like I and others do then natural forces "created" us, but the two are still the same. It's a logical paradox I'm finding true that science seems to be making stronger as we learn more.
    Don't be fooled by your so called "facts". It could be merely mirage.
    Haven't you learned from history?
    Your pass so adored arrays of legendary scientists..
    who all of them turned out to have only a slight unclear, biased, picture of a yet unknown huge jigsaw puzzle..

    This world is designed with complexity in mind..
    It's like you're an ant on top of an extremely huge TV screen (probably the size of the universe) trying to make sense of those randomly generated pixel dots but not trying to look at it from a "bigger" perspective.

    The perspective you should seek is the perspective that the Creator had given you.

    From a mathematical point of view, you should learn from Godel's theory.
    In the end, it's about needing to believe in something to understand the absolute Truth of this world.

    Al7amdulillah Allah has given us that exact foundation which we find it in the Quran and Sunnah.

    regards,
    Johan

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    Hi Johan! That's an interesting argument but there is a problem I see with it that I'll try to explain.

    There are currently millions of fossils that have been found. Scientists have carefully documented 30,000 fossil species, all of them showing transition, with all having something that preceded them to evolve from. Never, once, has there been an exception where something appeared out of nowhere. Cannot deny what was found in paleontology, without becoming another who is in denial of what exists.

    Also, scripture does not explain how life was created, it only says it was. Therefore there is no absolute truth of how life was created because the Quran and other texts are not science books that explain atomic theory, contain a periodic table of the elements, explain all existing molecular bonds, how cells works, brains, what evolution found in the fossil evidence is, or any other important science needed to know how life arose.

    You are saying you have absolute truth of creation but if that is true then you could scientifically explain how life was created. And what is special about clay? Could it be this?

    http://www.islamicboard.com/health-s...y-science.html

    Science does not indicate that scriptures are false. It explains things that scripture does not say anything about. And if you say science is wrong then you also say that the science showing clay is special is wrong therefore you are saying that clay has no special properties when it clearly does. So that puts you on the side saying clay is nothing, with me saying it is special and that life can come from it. Which means I become the one saying the Quran is right about clay being able to make a human, while you have to deny the science that is in agreement with what the Quran says. What would Prophet Muhammad think of you after that? He spent his life looking for revelations such as this. And so have I. So which of us do you think Prophet Muhammad would rather do science with, you or I? Think about it.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Science101 View Post
    ..
    Also, scripture does not explain how life was created, it only says it was. Therefore there is no absolute truth of how life was created because the Quran and other texts are not science books that explain atomic theory, contain a periodic table of the elements, explain all existing molecular bonds, how cells works, brains, what evolution found in the fossil evidence is, or any other important science needed to know how life arose.
    ..
    Have you understood what's behind Godel's theory?

    CMIIW, it says in a simplified way that if you defined an arbitarary language or system of language and using that language you define something that holds as a true statement or as an axiom or a foundation of truth, and you try to use the same system to prove that the axiomatc statement defined earlier is correct, i.e. true... you will then reach a paradoxial statement that the truth in that case is undefinable.

    You will need to actually define in the language itself that the axiom is part of the language as an absolute truth.
    (now don't argue with me on how that can go about.. you will need to ask Godel on that; but it is mathematically proven)

    So in other words, in order for you to determine if a certain thing is absolutely true, you can't just derive it from what you know of the language, cuz you'll never know how powerful the language is until the person who created the language himself tells you that the language boundaries are here..and here..

    So those "extra crucial knowledge" is what we take as granted from the creator in order to know truly how he's creation works.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Science101 View Post
    ...
    You are saying you have absolute truth of creation but if that is true then you could scientifically explain how life was created. And what is special about clay? Could it be this?

    http://www.islamicboard.com/health-s...y-science.html
    yes we should be able to derive that, it just takes time to get to that point.
    until then we are called the submitter(muslim).. or the believer (mu'min)..
    we will just believe based on the "good"-ness the Quran and sunnah has been to us in our life.. and the ever so much signs of His existance..

    I personally think that clay depicts something that in our world that has the characteristic of "touchable". Probably very much like the characteristics of fermions i suppose..CMIIW.. just a speculation..

    format_quote Originally Posted by Science101 View Post
    Science does not indicate that scriptures are false. It explains things that scripture does not say anything about. And if you say science is wrong then you also say that the science showing clay is special is wrong therefore you are saying that clay has no special properties when it clearly does. So that puts you on the side saying clay is nothing, with me saying it is special and that life can come from it. Which means I become the one saying the Quran is right about clay being able to make a human, while you have to deny the science that is in agreement with what the Quran says. What would Prophet Muhammad think of you after that? He spent his life looking for revelations such as this. And so have I. So which of us do you think Prophet Muhammad would rather do science with, you or I? Think about it.
    We as a limited agent, can only interpret this magnificent world through our limited senses.
    E.g.
    How accurate is the current best of breed supercomputer can get?
    How accurate is the current optics can get?
    How accurate is the current best of breed electroscopic sensors can get?
    How big is the biggest explosion can we create?
    It's just at such and such..

    You're wrong on how to use Quran and the Hadeeth.
    You should base you're judgment on them first before moving on to interpreting factual data to your limited mind (current established scientific knowledge base).
    Cuz even the slightest precision error could lead to a disastrous conclusion. (remember einstien vs newton? you should learn from their mistakes; that also has signs if you put heed on)

    Regards,
    Abu 'Ammar

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    format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2 View Post
    It is quite amazing how people will reject something as well supported by evidence such as evolution without understanding what the process entails.
    The only people who actually reject this theory are:
    1)people who have not understood it and are unwilling to learn...
    2)those who do understand the theory and having examined it in detail and still reject it do so for no reason other than it goes against their religion
    ther

    blind faith is the worst kind of malady afflicting the human race.

    What I dont understand is why so many creationists dont understand that evolution does not deal with how life began but what happened after life began. It is very common for scientists to say I dont know . Unlike many creationists that just fill in their ignorance with god did id instead of actually critically thinking.

    Evolution is supported by tons of evidence and only creationists seem to reject it.

    I was taught evolution at highschool and my biology teacher told us about vestigial organs, the peppered moths, etc. Having recently researched these on my own due to curiousity and wanting to learn more, I wonder whether she knew she was sparking an interest in me. Of course there are vestigial organs
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestigialangs
    and anyone that believes otherwise is deluding themselves and ignoring reality.
    your link doesnt seem to work. but:
    appendix- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiform_appendix (skip the evolution bit 1st)
    coccyx- The coccyx provides an attachment for nine muscles, such as the gluteus maximus, and those necessary for defecation. It also acts as something of a shock absorber when a person sits down, although forceful impact can cause damage and subsequent bodily pains. http://www.harunyahya.net/V2/Lang/en...il/Number/2985 etc

    if we dont know the uses we will find out. isnt that what science is all about? not giving up, not making things up...
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    Re: Evolution Test!

    read about vestigial structures. they are usually reduced functions from past.


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