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    I think there is a lot of stigma to when someone falls into depression especially long term. It is NOT a sign of weak Iman. It is NOT something to be ashamed about. And surely one should never try to seek divorce just because your partner fell into depression which was not her desire to fall into nor was it her way to gain attention.

    Depression can be a chemical in balance in the brain triggered by events like divorce, losing a loved one, job loss, moving or any number of events. One would not be able to tell if their depression is a chemical imbalance or if it was by situational events. If depression does not clear in 1-2 months then you may be struggling with the chemical imbalance. There is a ton of hope to help make you feel normal. First go to your Medical Doctor and explain your feelings and they will prescribe you anti-depressants which do not give you any kind of high or weird feeling only you feel normal. No longer sad, crying without cause. It will take a maximum of one week to feel the affects of the medication.

    Exercise is proven to help as well. Try doing 15 minutes of beginners exercise and build up from there as you feel you are building endurance.

    In Islam we are to have love and mercy with our spouses not love and intolerance. One should never feel it is Taboo to seek Medical Help.
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    Re: Depression

    mashAllah jazakAllah khair.
    Depression is known one of the most common problem now-a-days and people use medicines especially sleeping doze for its cure..
    as Dhikr of Allah realy cure all the depressions.
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    Re: Depression

    Sometimes we are depress for no reasons, lets always try to compare ourselves to people who has below means than us and always remember to say alhamdollellah.
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    Re: Depression

    Assalamu-alaikum,

    JazakAllah khayrun for the above.

    Indeed, certain types of depression can result from hormonal imbalances (some of which can be measurable, and some which can not).
    However, in the majority of a cases, depression stems from insufficient tawwakkul (trust in Allah).

    Hence, we find that depression is one of the fastest growing medical conditions in our society.

    How many of us have completely resigned ourselves to the decisions of Allah (i.e adopting Tafweez)?
    And how many a depressive state, results from being dissatisfied with what Allah has decreed for our lives?

    I quote from the late Ml Yunus Patel (ra):

    If we can only learn and understand this : that behind each and every decision made by Allah Ta’ala there is goodness and wisdom.
    ......

    Tafweez is placing our matters before Allah Ta’ala, handing them over to Him, and trusting completely in Him, believing that there is goodness in whatever Allah Ta’ala has decided.
    Outwardly, it may appear as if there is some problem that we are faced with, but great wisdom lies in the decisions of Allah.

    Unless there is a proven medical cause for a persons depression (e.g an underactive thyroid or other hormonal problems), we should first try to fix our relationships with Allah (before heading for the drug cabinet).
    We may think that our imaans are strong - and perhaps it is......but we can make it STRONGER, insha Allah!

    Even the most beloved to Allah - His prophet (sallalahu alaihi wasalam) would stand much of his nights - in tears and begging for His mercy.

    So, in comparison, what is our condition?


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    Re: Depression

    format_quote Originally Posted by ~Zaria~ View Post
    Even the most beloved to Allah - His prophet (sallalahu alaihi wasalam) would stand much of his nights - in tears and begging for His mercy.

    So, in comparison, what is our condition?


    it is the ever touching thing i have ever heard. really lovely
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    Re: Depression

    Asslamu Aliakum,

    I think depression occurs where an individual suppresses certain emotions due to some event, does not necessarily have to be traumatic. I heard writing out your thoughts onto paper can help. The suppression of these emotions/feelings can lead to several problems like gaining/losing weight, feeling tired, angry and so on.
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    Re: Depression

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    format_quote Originally Posted by PurpleCup View Post
    It will take a maximum of one week to feel the affects of the medication.
    It usually takes up to four to six weeks to start feeling the effects.

    Many people stop taking their medication because they wrongly assume that it will start working quickly. With antidepressants, this generally isn't the case.
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    Re: Depression

    I recommend this book (see below) by Dr. Burns (he's a psychiatrist) - before jumping on the pills band wagon. I say this both as a former patient on anti-depressants and as a health care professional. If pills work for you it is all fine and I am all for it. But read all the studies presented and the pathophysiology of depression before concluding that it is a chemical imbalance you suffer from. Most doctors who prescribe these pills are GP's and not psychiatrists and they do it based on questioning you not measuring your alleged chemical imbalance! Although there are ways to do it, it is almost never done!

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    Re: Depression

    format_quote Originally Posted by Insaanah View Post
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    It usually takes up to four to six weeks to start feeling the effects.

    Many people stop taking their medication because they wrongly assume that it will start working quickly. With antidepressants, this generally isn't the case.

    It is not true that it takes 4-6 weeks for medication to take affect.
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    Re: Depression

    format_quote Originally Posted by PurpleCup View Post
    It is not true that it takes 4-6 weeks for medication to take affect.
    you're right... I miss those diazepam they use to make me giggle til i passed out. Oh the good ole days
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    Re: Depression

    I think the majority would feel using medication is not good but I do not subscribe to that idea. If there is medication they will help one feel better then they should jump on that bandwagon. A GP is a medical doctor and is perfectly capable to prescribe antidepressants just as any other medication and its a false notion that one needs to be a Psychiatrist in order to know what they are talking about.

    format_quote Originally Posted by شَادِنُ View Post
    I recommend this book (see below) by Dr. Burns (he's a psychiatrist) - before jumping on the pills band wagon. I say this both as a former patient on anti-depressants and as a health care professional. If pills work for you it is all fine and I am all for it. But read all the studies presented and the pathophysiology of depression before concluding that it is a chemical imbalance you suffer from. Most doctors who prescribe these pills are GP's and not psychiatrists and they do it based on questioning you not measuring your alleged chemical imbalance! Although there are ways to do it, it is almost never done!

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    Re: Depression

    format_quote Originally Posted by PurpleCup View Post
    It is not true that it takes 4-6 weeks for medication to take affect.
    Now you'll correct a doc as a business owner? I fully stand by what she wrote.

    Antidepressants such as ssri and snri and sdri take 4-6 weeks to take effect. Actually, depression will get worse cuz of those pills in those 4-6 weeks before some therapeutic effect is seen.

    and get ready to suffer with side effects such as anxiety, headaches, insomnia, nausea, diarrhea, osteoporosis and in rare cases serotonin syndrome and death.

    I am against anti-depressant pills. Everyday we shove em down at least 3-4 patients. PPl think its a quick fix, and so does my doc.

    Even for suicidal patients, they'd long be dead before these pills would work.
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    Re: Depression

    format_quote Originally Posted by PurpleCup View Post
    I think the majority would feel using medication is not good but I do not subscribe to that idea. If there is medication they will help one feel better then they should jump on that bandwagon. A GP is a medical doctor and is perfectly capable to prescribe antidepressants just as any other medication and its a false notion that one needs to be a Psychiatrist in order to know what they are talking about.
    It isn't a question of able to, a surgeon can prescribe the same pills. It is a question of better understanding the etiology of the disease and whether or not these pills will work for the individual. The Average GP spends no more than 9 mins per patient and that includes History/physical exam/ assessment and plan and it is actually no different for psychiatrists but at least their focus is more specialized than general.
    Like I stated earlier if anti-depressants work for someone- I am all for it but the reality is, they don't fare better than placebos in several NIH studies and in one study both anti-depressants and st. John's wort fared similar to each other but worse than placebo.
    I believe patients should be educated about all their options that is all. I am not going to go into neurology or neuro-psychitry it is a vast field and simply seeing colored scans light up with anti-depressants or go dim when off it, in and of itself isn't an indication that brain and body are happy now.. There's so much about the brain and the human body that we actually know nothing of and it is good to weigh in all those options before dumping things in the body that affect its chemicals..

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    Re: Depression

    Greetings and peace be with you all,

    The following quote Posted by this old man might help,

    Let me share what I was told by a Muslim scholar.

    Once Nabi Musa (as) had a very bad stomachache. So he prayed to Allah. Allah told him to get the leaves from a certain plant, boil the leaves and drink the brew. He did as he was told. His stomachache was healed. Some time later, he had the same ailment. Again he prayed to Allah for succor. Again he was told to do the same thing which he did with the same good result. The third time he had the same stomachache, without praying to Allah, he went ahead to get the leaves, boiled them and drank the brew. To no avail. Then he begged Allah to tell him why it didn't work as before. Allah told him that the failure resulted from his belief that it was the leaves, and not Allah, that healed his stomachache. Allah and only Allah alone has the power to make things happen.
    In the spirit of trusting in Allah,

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    format_quote Originally Posted by PurpleCup View Post
    It is not true that it takes 4-6 weeks for medication to take affect.

    Management Patients should be reviewed every 1-2 weeks at the start of antidepressant treatment. Treatment should be continued for at least 4 weeks (6 weeks in the elderly) before considering whether to switch antidepressant due to lack of efficacy. In cases of partial response, continue for a further 2-4 weeks (elderly patients may take longer to respond).
    Section 4.3 British National Formulary, 63rd Ed, March 2012, page 243, British Medical Association and the Royal Pharmaceutical Society.

    This is the prescribing guide and medicines guide used by doctors and pharmacists in the UK, and each section is contributed to/reviewed by specialists and experts in the relevant field.
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    when i was beginning to read this thread, this video popped in my mind, enjoy it In sha Allah.

    edit: sry i'm not able to embed the video so i'll link it, if anybody could quote this video and embed i would really be thankful. jazak Allahu khair.

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    Re: Depression

    My two pence worth: I think people should refrain from commenting on what they feel depression is unless they've suffered from it. It's something you cannot truly comprehend unless you've been through it.
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    Re: Depression

    ooh, why not? depression is something alien? :s
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    nairu, i just watched that video. quite good, actually. thanks for posting.

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    Its the embedded version of the link that brother Nairu gave.
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