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    Ramadan Kareem!

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    Hi! I found this message board via Google, and hopefully I'll be able to learn a lot from you all.

    I'm an American Jew who practices according to the "Maimonidean" traditions (most American and European Jews do not practice this way). I am aware of the vast and far-reaching impact Islam and Judaism have had on each other culturally and religiously; and as part of my own religious studies I regularly study the Qur'an (Bakhtiar translation) and the writings of Indries Shah, as well as the works of Arab-Jewish spiritualists.

    I am conversant in Hebrew (which, btw, when pronounced correctly sounds very close to Arabic) and am trying to learn Arabic. I spoke with an individual at a local mosque who said that he may be able to put together a program for my girlfriend and me, but we'll see if that pans out.

    As far as the whole situation in Israel is concerned, let me put my perspective simply: The land is God's. If Muslims wish to live on the land, then they must do so in accordance with the laws God has given them. If Jews wish to live on the land, then they must do so in accordance with the laws God has given them. A secular state that does not cherish or even respect the rights of its citizens, Jews and non-Jews alike, has no real legitimacy - it is only the threat of force and might that is behind its laws. This, from what I understand of Judaism, is anathema to the society envisioned and prescribed in the Tora.

    If you have any questions about Judaism, please feel free to ask - I'm not easily offended at all, and I've been blessed with much time to pursue my rabbinic studies.

    With much love,

    - Ahl al-Dhikr

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    hi
    welcome Ahl al-Dhikr

    inshallah u will learn alot about islam.

    i hope u enjoy urself here.


    peace
    Last edited by Nájlá; 09-14-2008 at 11:27 AM.
    Ramadan Kareem!

    Three simple rules in life:

    1) If you do not go after what you want, you will never have it
    2) If you don't ask, the answer will always be no.
    3) If you do not step forward, you'll always be in the same place

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    Thank you!

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    Hello,

    I don't think we have any Jewish members, lots of Christian and Atheist members,

    Welcome,

    Are you on J forum? Or any Jewish forums?
    Ramadan Kareem!


    "Whoever lives amongst you will see much differing, so adhere to my Sunnah" Muhammad
    (صلّى الله عليه و سلم)

    Dhikhrul-lil-Aalamiin

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Da'watul-Allaah View Post
    Hello,
    I don't think we have any Jewish members, lots of Christian and Atheist members,
    Welcome,
    Are you on J forum? Or any Jewish forums?
    Thanks! I'm not currently on any Jewish forums, but maybe I'll look for some.

    May I ask what Da'watul-Allaah means?

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    to the forum!

    I wish you an enjoyable and beneficial stay, and may I also add that if you have any questions at all regarding Islam, please don't hesitate to ask!

    Ramadan Kareem!


    Should I seek a source of law other than God, when it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (Qur'an) fully explained? And those whom We have given them the Book know that it has been sent down from the Lord with truth, so be not of those in doubt.
    {6:114}

    الصبر
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ali. View Post
    to the forum!

    I wish you an enjoyable and beneficial stay, and may I also add that if you have any questions at all regarding Islam, please don't hesitate to ask!

    Thank you! Should I post my questions here, or in another forum?

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahl al-Dhikr View Post
    Thank you! Should I post my questions here, or in another forum?
    In general if its a general question, in advice and support if you need advice, in comparative religion if u wanna talk about Judaism and Islam...And so on and so forth
    Ramadan Kareem!








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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    Welcome Ahl al-Dhikr
    I hope you have an Awesome and a beneficial Time in here
    Dont Hesitate if you have any questions
    Ramadan Kareem!


    And as for the one who fears standing in front of His Lord and restrains the soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    Comparative Religion is Temporarily Closed Because of Ramadan
    Just In case if you have questions there
    Ramadan Kareem!


    And as for the one who fears standing in front of His Lord and restrains the soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]

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    Thank you all very much. I posted my first question (!) in the Qur'an forum...as I formulate more, I'll be sure to post 'em!



    ...actually, I do have another question: What do these two phrases mean?



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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    The first One means Wa Aleykum Salam ( Peace be upon you too)

    The second one means Assalamu Aleykum ( Peace be upon you )

    Someone Please correct me if its wrong
    Ramadan Kareem!


    And as for the one who fears standing in front of His Lord and restrains the soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Güven View Post
    The first One means Wa Aleykum Salam ( Peace be upon you too)

    The second one means Assalamu Aleykum ( Peace be upon you )

    Someone Please correct me if its wrong
    Thank you! "Assalamu aleykum" - is this phrased in the plural?

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    Hey,

    Welcome to the forums!
    Hope you enjoy your stay here, please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions!

    Ramadan Kareem!


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    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari View Post
    Hey,

    Welcome to the forums!
    Hope you enjoy your stay here, please don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions!

    Thanks! And thanks for moving my other thread to the right forum - my apologies!

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahl al-Dhikr View Post
    Thank you! "Assalamu aleykum" - is this phrased in the plural?
    edit

    Last edited by Güven; 09-15-2008 at 03:55 PM.
    Ramadan Kareem!


    And as for the one who fears standing in front of His Lord and restrains the soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]

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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    The Full Form is like : As Salamu Aleikum Wa Rahmatul lahi Wa Barakatuh means peace, mercy and blessings from Allah be upon you
    Ramadan Kareem!


    And as for the one who fears standing in front of His Lord and restrains the soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Güven View Post
    The Full Form is like : As Salamu Aleikum Wa Rahmatul lahi Wa Barakatuh means peace, mercy and blessings from Allah be upon you
    Ahhh very interesting. In Hebrew, we have the phrase:
    "Shalom wu-berakhoth 'aleikhem," which means "peace and blessings [be] upon you." I wonder if it was shortened from a similar phrase?


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    Re: Ramadan Kareem!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahl al-Dhikr View Post
    Thank you all very much. I posted my first question (!) in the Qur'an forum...as I formulate more, I'll be sure to post 'em!



    ...actually, I do have another question: What do these two phrases mean?



    and

    : And may peace be upon you (used usually to say bye).

    : May peace be upon you - usually used to greet someone.
    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahl al-Dhikr View Post
    Thank you! "Assalamu aleykum" - is this phrased in the plural?
    No, it originated for old Arabic and this would be used to greet somebody important, or to show high respect (would be used with everyone, not just Kings etc.). Modern Arabic it would be seen as plural, but dating back to old Arabic it's singular, so we use it as singular.

    Also, Guven, this is used to say and may peace be upon you too (used to greet someone back if they say ):

    و عليكم السلام

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahl al-Dhikr View Post
    Ahhh very interesting. In Hebrew, we have the phrase:
    "Shalom wu-berakhoth 'aleikhem," which means "peace and blessings [be] upon you." I wonder if it was shortened from a similar phrase?

    I don't think so, Arabic and Hebrew are I'm sure two very different languages. Maybe someone who knows for sure can answer you on that one .
    Last edited by Ali.; 09-14-2008 at 08:49 PM. Reason: Enlarged the Arabic.
    Ramadan Kareem!


    Should I seek a source of law other than God, when it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (Qur'an) fully explained? And those whom We have given them the Book know that it has been sent down from the Lord with truth, so be not of those in doubt.
    {6:114}

    الصبر
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    العلم

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    Double post - could mod's please delete .
    Last edited by Ali.; 09-14-2008 at 08:49 PM. Reason: ^
    Ramadan Kareem!


    Should I seek a source of law other than God, when it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (Qur'an) fully explained? And those whom We have given them the Book know that it has been sent down from the Lord with truth, so be not of those in doubt.
    {6:114}

    الصبر
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