Hello all and thank you for having me here. I'm here not to debate the validity of Islam nor to offend any member. On the other hand, I'm very interested in how believers do think, especially in the context of the modern, Western world. I'm not just picking on Muslims .. I've had many discussions with fundamentalist Christians also about the same things. I've tried to do the same with Muslims, but I find it more difficult because I don't find myself naturally in circles where they are and to be honest, I've found them to get offended quickly my questions when I do meet them. I suppose the current political climate doesn't help much.
So I'm hoping I can appeal to your hospitality and understanding when I do ask questions. Please know I mean no offense to you as a person if I ask a question that might seem impertinent. It's a question in which I sincerely want to know what your views are. If this is OK with you, then I thank you in advance. If not, you can always do the expedient thing other Islamic boards do and ban me (but I suspect that this board seems more open than the others).
As for myself, I've read the entire Old Testament, and the New Testament as well as the Quran. I'm now trying to find a good copy of the Reliance of the Traveller. I've also reads many books on evolution, Christian fundamentalism, Radical Islamic, "God is not Great" by Hitchens, "The God Delusion" by Dawkins, "The Islamist", and many others.
On a personal level, ironically, my son has been in a serious long-term relationship with a Pakistani Muslim girl. I've met her many times and think she's wonderful. But she has had to keep her relationship secret from her parents because they would react very badly. I fear a little for my son's safety, but even more so for hers. She no longer wears any head scarf and does have a sexual relationship with him.
Thank you all in advance and am looking forward to meeting you all online.
It seems to be a political agenda to be an atheist and a very left leaning one too. In religions, people can believe in whatever gods they want. But not to believe in any gods or whatever beyond our understanding is very simple minded. So what is the purpose of the atheist? To get rid of gods and for everybody to worship the State? And what will be this State? A global liberal progressive authoritarian State I suppose. So what is the purpose of atheist's to "debate" about religion? Only to attack it until everybody becomes a commie. But this is futile because some people are genetically made to be theists. Having said this I believe most people that identify with religion these days are crypto Marxists/ atheists/ leftists anyway.
An atheist has no purpose. A thing without purpose is useless. I find it odd how atheists would posit that there is no identified objective purpose to life. If inanimate objects can have a purpose, then animate objects, most certainly do. And yet when it comes to "life" - there is no purpose? Seems very irresponsible and escapist to me.
Folks, I want to thank you all for your hospitality and your input here. Although I'll continue to drop in to read your posts, I can see that I may have made a mistake in attempting to engage in debates here. Many of my posts have been deleted or get moderated for days before appearing. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable here nor make more work for the moderators. I'll discontinue posting on this board. Thanks again, and I wish you all the best!
I'm sincerely sad to read that. As far as argumentative Internet atheists go, you are way ahead of the curve.
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