Event: Rain or Shine Summer Conference
Date: Saturday 26th July 2008
Venue: Corporation Park, Blackburn, BB2 6DG
Time: 11 am- 7 pm
A FUN FAMILY DAY OUT FOR ALL
Schedule:
Speakers: Sheikh Muhammad Ahmed, Jalal ibn Sa'eed (Islam Channel Presenter), Murtaza Khan, Nasheed Artist Kamalludin (no musical instruments) and Sister Yvonne Ridley. Also featuring from Kuwait is Abu Mohammad, specialising in Ruqiah (exocism) and Hujama (bloodletting) from the Sunnah (no prior appointment needed).
SEPARATE FACILITIES FOR SISTERS
Also:
Fun rides, donkey rides, bouncy castle, hand made craft staff, jilbaab/hijaab stall, henna painting, book stall, barbeque and many many more...
First thing was he didnt give the right answer to the question, does neglecting Salaah make one a kaafir, he failed to show both sides correctly and ignored the 6th condition of the shahadah - Submission.
Secondly, towards the end, he way over did the Eid thing, and made it sound far more important than it was, and actually said that he believed having a unity on Eid was the solution to unifying the ummah - basically he was trying to sell his "1Eid" event.
Thirdly, he said it was halaal for us to live in this country so long as we pay a bit of money towards da'wah (now for anyone who has studied, or researched a little about hijrah they would know how stupid this sounds). Its not allowed to live in a non-muslim country save a few exceptions, and they are on a temporary basis.
format_quote Originally Posted by amani
Abu Ghurabah, which stall did you have?
lol *ahem*
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari
Lol no, i saw you once, but i was on my way to drop my sister off to my dad, and when i came back you were gone. You were busy though, Masha'Allah!
Yeah man, busy day...Alhamdulillah we did good...
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My bro and my sister actually recorded the lectures which i didnt know on their MP3 Recorder, its not that good quality, but its decent...so far those who wish to benefit inshaa'Allaah you can get he lectures from Fisabeelillah.
pixie- miss the sign i had stuck on me just for you and manage to know i was me
fishy gave me a good description of u. just like... u give to the cops
format_quote Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя
And LOL....annoying thing was the bro's blocking ur path asking for dontations, its like...'erm, I already paid the entrance fee like three times'
oh there was an entrance fee? oops we parked far away n kinda came in through th side gate to avoid th sun... didn't kno.. :zip:
n 3 times? seems like u made up for ours missing it... thnx
Oh and we didnt get a donkey ride piskel
I dont think the segregation was that bad
It was GUD arrangements, even the tent had a covering seperating the sisters n brothers alhamdulillaah. m surprised no one mentioned tht. n outside was.. maaany moms n dads wid their young kids mostly. Family day...outside. It was difficult to segregate it completely.
First thing was he didnt give the right answer to the question, does neglecting Salaah make one a kaafir, he failed to show both sides correctly and ignored the 6th condition of the shahadah - Submission.
I'm slightly confused as to what you mean by a right answer. Aren't there different opinions with regards to whether neglecting Salaah makes one a kaafir or not? n I think due to the shortage of time, Jalal Ibn Sa'eed only gave a short n brief answer saying tht:
1. Those who believe prayer is not compulsory n it is enough to have a good heart, are not believers (because they are outrightly rejecting the verses of the Qur'aan)
2. Those who do not pray but they believe salaah to be compulsory (i.e they do not reject the verses of the Qur'aan) are faasiq and sinners.
nothin dodgy abt tht. hmm.
Secondly, towards the end, he way over did the Eid thing, and made it sound far more important than it was, and actually said that he believed having a unity on Eid was the solution to unifying the ummah - basically he was trying to sell his "1Eid" event.
I was not able to hear this lecture unfortunately, but don't you think it would be more better n more safer for us, if we gave 70 excuses before allowing ourselves to think that? :blind:
n by believing that having unity on Eid is the solution to unifying the Ummah is not really tht dodgy There are more than one solutions to unifying the Ummah, nothing toooo dodgy abt tht, right? hmm. Ask him how, maybe he'll explain. wa Allaahu a'lim.
Thirdly, he said it was halaal for us to live in this country so long as we pay a bit of money towards da'wah (now for anyone who has studied, or researched a little about hijrah they would know how stupid this sounds). Its not allowed to live in a non-muslim country save a few exceptions, and they are on a temporary basis.
He said it was not allowed for us to live in a non muslim country unless we gave Da'wah, n this is true. JazakAllaah Khayr for the recordings, I would like to listen to those lectures again insha'Allaah.
Secondly, towards the end, he way over did the Eid thing, and made it sound far more important than it was, and actually said that he believed having a unity on Eid was the solution to unifying the ummah - basically he was trying to sell his "1Eid" event.
i actually enjoyed that part of the talk
Thirdly, he said it was halaal for us to live in this country so long as we pay a bit of money towards da'wah (now for anyone who has studied, or researched a little about hijrah they would know how stupid this sounds). Its not allowed to live in a non-muslim country save a few exceptions, and they are on a temporary basis.
from what i understood he said dawah is the thing that makes it allowed for us to live in this country, so we should give money and support dawah in any form we can or something like that
and your ahem didnt answer my question.
Was it a book stall? there were quite a few of them
and pixie jolie didnt even recognise me when she saw me
jolie where was the entrance fee? i didnt know there was one LOL
Lol it wasnt an 'entrance fee'...but...lol maybe only I had the misfortune of brothers blocking my path about a dozen times then huh?
And LOL amani I did recognise you, just that you recognised me first also I think I mistook you for your sis at first. And nah piskie, the sis with me wasnt Humble Servant, erm...lol I'll tell you who Humble Servant was the next time I talk to you lol insha'Allah.
Also, lol come on, you're in an open park...how good do you think the segregation is gonna be? lol wasnt that bad if you keep to your own side .i.e. just stay listening to lectures innit
Assalamau alaikum
What did you guys make of the event?
Did you watch the video presentation or did you just jump around on the bouncy castle eating barbequed chicken?
did you just jump around on the bouncy castle eating barbequed chicken?
Wa'alaykum salam
No, we rolled down the hill and jumped into the lake Course we listened to the lectures akhee! And if you read above you'll see what we made of the event. Was pretty well organised masha'Allah.
Jolie... I'll be listening to wat u have to say to amani!
Segregation yeah of coursseee thats true HOWEVER.... it makes it a little uncomfortable. Personally, I didn't go to any of the stalls, or even have any food :| because it was quite queued up etc... it would have been good to have brothers on one side with their stalls, and sisters on another with their stalls - that includes books, etc, and food. So basically bros have their side for their things and you can have the same stalls they have - for women. Thats possible, is it not?
But again, a good sincere effort masha allah. I just wish the crowds were more interested in the talks than the rides and attraction outside. Allah make it so the next time anything like this happens..
I just wish the crowds were more interested in the talks than the rides and attraction outside. Allah make it so the next time anything like this happens..
Aameen. Maybe many of them were interested, but because they were parents with kids screaming to go on the rides, they couldn't attend the lectures. I myself missed the Eid Lecture because I had to take my younger cousin to the toilets and on a donkey ride.
I'm slightly confused as to what you mean by a right answer. Aren't there different opinions with regards to whether neglecting Salaah makes one a kaafir or not? n I think due to the shortage of time, Jalal Ibn Sa'eed only gave a short n brief answer saying tht:
No. If you miss out Salaah you are kaafir. That was the Sahaabahs opinions. Refer to my sig for more information.
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