I'm totally against this guys videos, he has what, 5% of Islam in his videos? If you have no idea what diary of a badman is then I encourage you don't waste your time in trying to search for it. But I found this video going against him...
He addresses the issue very well but I think he was quite harsh... What's your views?
Ive seen some of this guys videos and i can see why many people are offended, i found some of the content distasteful but lashing out at him and /ranting/raving/backbiting isn't going to solve anything, i don't believe this is the way to reach out to another Muslim. If anyone has a problem...go talk to him or send him a message..but do it in a respectful way. There's no point making a video condemning this 'Badman' and uploading it on YouTube, it does nothing but stir the pot, its instilling hatred into people hearts, how will this help?
I believe we should fix ourselves before pointing fingers at others.
Last edited by IslamicRevival; 02-03-2012 at 04:39 PM.
I do agree: we should not be revealing the faults of others in public.....
Hadith - Reported by Ahmad (3/403) and Ibn Abee 'Aasim (2/521) with a saheeh isnaad.
It is authentically reported from the Messenger in the hadeeth of 'Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said,
"The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.' "
I am still trying to download the above-mentioned video (sigh), but if this is the case, then here too, we can all take a lesson, so that we do not fall in error as well, insha Allah.
Yes, we should warn others of the evils in this society - (including YT videos that do nothing more than create a false impression of this religion) - but it is sufficient without mentioning the person directly.
My problem lies in muslims who defend those who are in defiance of the teachings of Islam (and this pertains not only to Mr Badman, but to all others of such a repertoire), and who find this type of behaviour acceptable.
We should not be pointing fingers at others (for whenever you point one finger away, theres three that point towards you).....but neither should we lower our standards as far as our deen is concerned.
And do not underestimate even the most 'minor' of sins <-- Shaytaan loves when we do this.
@ bro Scimi, thanks for making the effort to write to this brother.
I sincerely hope something good comes out from this, insha Allah.
I would personally love to see a dedicated 32 minute lecture by any imam/scholar/whatever condemning the DAILY attrocities commited BY muslims in their home countries on FELLOW muslims.
Guess I will have to do with a 32 minute lecture on some kid making youtube videos...
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
I would personally love to see a dedicated 32 minute lecture by any imam/scholar/whatever condemning the DAILY attrocities commited BY muslims in their home countries on FELLOW muslims.
?? I hope you don't mean this.
Are you now talking against our imams and scholars?
Last edited by Asiyah3; 02-03-2012 at 09:58 PM.
Those who believe and obscure not their belief by wrongdoing, theirs is safety; and they are rightly guided. (6:86)
Behold! verily on the friends of Allah there is no fear, nor shall they grieve. (10:62)
salaam
i had made a good comment earliar until it got removed,however i do think that he is making a mockery of islam in some ways however this standup comedian is to make youngsters and teens laugh and i mean if he was making a mockery of islam then we would have a point however i dont see why he is being backbited upon
First of all, 'the Badman' is a fictional character this young man plays, and is not necessarily representative of his true character.
Second of all, I don't particularly like the videos as they're not really to my taste, though I can see why some people enjoy them.
Third of all, if you don't like them, don't watch them. Why intentionally stress yourself out?
Fourth of all, I'm not sure a 32 minute diatribe (which is actually longer than any of the 'Badman' videos) is really called for, especially when it's basically a huge personal attack against this young man based on a few YouTube videos. Is this meant in sincere guidance, or is it just people lashing out at utterly trivial tripe?
Come on guys, we're above storms in teacups like this.
Trivial? Millions of Muslim youth in the UK and Europe USA idolise this guy, and think hes's "cool"... when he plays a fool. This is not trivial, this is Hamza doing the job of indoctrinating the youth away from deen by presenting such idiocy as he is known for.
Let me just show you how bad it has gotten.
I got the above in a quick search on YT, and there's plenty more out there. Kids cursing in their mother tongue etc, acting like monkeys and what not. Sure - it's harmless, right? Wrong.
Now I don't know about you, but I feel a little responsibility for our younger Muslims and Muslimahs out there...
So, why dont we all advice him peacefully under the comment of his videos and try to point out his mistakes rather than attacking him, humiliating him cause it never works like that
Millions of Muslim youth in the UK and Europe USA idolise this guy, and think hes's "cool"... when he plays a fool. This is not trivial, this is Hamza doing the job of indoctrinating the youth away from deen by presenting such idiocy as he is known for.
I seriously doubt he wants to indoctrinate the youth away from the deen. He's messing about on YouTube, where the most popular videos are stupid.
Let me just show you how bad it has gotten.
I got the above in a quick search on YT, and there's plenty more out there. Kids cursing in their mother tongue etc, acting like monkeys and what not. Sure - it's harmless, right? Wrong.
Now I don't know about you, but I feel a little responsibility for our younger Muslims and Muslimahs out there...
Scimi
It's a bunch of kids messing about as kids are wont to do. The difference is they've uploaded their silliness onto YouTube. It doesn't mean they are now totally corrupted beyond all repair. If their parents don't like it, they shouldn't let them watch it.
The more attention we give him the more people will waste their time tuning into his videos. Ive seen his videos and not only are they so annoying but they are a very bad example for the youth. We must stop giving this guy more coverage.
These kids can watch all that on their phones bro. And we all know that their parents won't know jack diddly.
I add, that these kids who have no idea what a Naffs is, will no doubt not know what kind of danger an ego fix will land them in. Feed the wolf and it's only a matter of time before it sets its eyes on you. Some of them are gonna keep on making youtube vids of nonsensical content as per above, thinking they are some kind of youtube celeb, and that isn't taking them away from deen into dunya?
These kids can watch all that on their phones bro. And we all know that their parents won't know jack diddly.
Kids are kids. If, as you seem to be concerned, they lack positive role models in their real life and resort to imitating YouTube celebrities 24/7, the problem is not with the YouTube celebrity, the problem is with the lack of role models in the kid's real life.
I add, that these kids who have no idea what a Naffs is, will no doubt not know what kind of danger an ego fix will land them in.
So teach the kids right from wrong. Then they can watch these videos if they want, but they won't take them seriously.
Feed the wolf and it's only a matter of time before it sets its eyes on you. Some of them are gonna keep on making youtube vids of nonsensical content as per above, thinking they are some kind of youtube celeb, and that isn't taking them away from deen into dunya?
You're blaming the entire YouTube celebrity culture thing on one (Muslim) man?
Pull the other one bro..
Were you ever a child? Did you never mess about and play stupid games with your friends? If you're about the same age as me, you wouldn't have had the Internet and YouTube, but you can't seriously tell me you never goofed off now and then, while still knowing the limits due to your upbringing.
The difference in today's world is that YouTube exists. If it existed when we were kids, are you seriously telling me you wouldn't have wanted to upload videos of you and your friends messing about?
It's kids at play. Kids' play tends to look pretty stupid to adults. As long as the adults take an active role in the kids’ development and make sure they know right from wrong, the adults have... I wouldn't say nothing to worry about (it's impossible to not worry about your child), but they have less to worry about.
YES, I agree they don't have role models. So they jump onto any monkey business they find that is appealing.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
You're blaming the entire YouTube celebrity culture thing on one (Muslim) man?
Nope. I never said that. I was referring to the ego as the wolf bro. Not Humza. Sorry for not being clear on that.
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
The difference in today's world is that YouTube exists. If it existed when we were kids, are you seriously telling me you wouldn't have wanted to upload videos of you and your friends messing about?
I don't know if I would have been allowed to be honest. But hey, you can't deny the fact that today most kids want to be "recognised" and hunger after all the pop culture they are exposed to. If they can somehow get a chance to showcase themselves (youtube) then they will - but do they recognise the danger in this?
Let's take a look at the teen girl in the video, Indecently exposing a bit more than a shoulder and acting like a sick fan to boot. Do you think she cares what I think? or what her peer group thinks?
The underlying factor remains, that it was Humza who "inspired" these kids to their nonsense. He needs to know what kind of influence he holds over them, and tone down his show with less stupidity and more reality, with a longer, more in depth message to boot. He'll get the respect that way and maybe even create a new method of delivery, as opposed to his clownish one that sponsors homosexual, violent, sexist and zenophobic attitudes primarily - before his 30 second thought of the day... come to think of it - there are less and less of those "thoughts of the day" type moments on his videos now.
Did you see the facebook episode? Utterly stupid with no message in it at all - just curses and disses.
Scimi
Last edited by Muezzin; 02-04-2012 at 12:16 AM.
Reason: Aamirsaab didn't write the quoted post, I did, shhh!
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