The End of Music

brothers and sisters....

Do any of you listen to music uncontrollably? To a point where it is controlling you instead of you controlling it? Well..I was that way once and I must admit..I can now see a fine difference not only in my life..but my concentration from the time it was controlling my life til now. Sometimes some of us become so addicted to music that we forget to acknowledge the beauty of not listening to it. There was a point where music was such in my life that my grades started to go downward and that I failed to do my duties..because I was so addicted. Then one day alhamdulilah I have stumbled upon Sheikh Kamal El Mekki and his lecture on music and tht it was haraam to listen to music instuments (even though it is a big controversy today as it is not the point of this discussion)..and happen think well no wonder why I can't concentrate on my salah..because I have satanic voices in my head! So to make it short..I decided one day to stop listening to music..because it is very hard to do it cold turkey..I took it step by step..from throwing away my CD's and replacing it with quran...then proceeded to go even further by deleting all my files with music. This took me about 1 full year...off and on until one day music to me was like listen to noise..literally! After that I started to notice changes such as:

1) no distractions when offering salah
2) mind is free of having words stuck in your head
3) more free time
4) no distractions when studying
5) easier to recite the Quran
6) better influence in your life
7) not having anything to control your mind (lyrics; etc)


So if any of you are STILL doubting to continue to listen to music or not take Sheikh Kamal El Mekki lecture into consideration and my advice and insha'Allah you shall be enlightened! oh and here's the link to Sheikh Kamal El Mekki's lecture..the lecture topic is "The End of Music"..sometimes I really wish it was but tht's not reality..lol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthlUOYkI7M

I remember listening to this lecture, it was one of the best on this topic Masha'Allaah.

jazakallah khair that was very nice

InshaAllah

very soon i will try to end any music.. from me, my mind & my home as well

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hhhmmm I try my best

yeah that right
listening to music make us repeat it all the day but it is better to say Tasbeeh sabhanullah ......
i am also addicted but attempting to abondon listening music anymore

^^It is not singing that is haram, rather the instruments used in music. Things sung a capella are fine, providing of course they don't have obscene lyrics.

Thinker said:

Can someone tell me why music is haraam, what is it about listening to music that is perceived as bad? (I know the answer is somewhere amongst the back discussions on this topic but I can't find it).

And if singfing is such a bad thing why when the 'call to prayer' comes from the mosque why is it 'sung' why don't they just speak it?

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Peace Thinker,

we are taught when reciting to use a melodious voice. the content, however of Qur'an, Azzan, Tasbeeh is 100% Halaal AND Beneficial.

about ANYTHING other than what is accepted, you need to be a Muslim to understand; and some Muslims even disagree that is Haraam! but you've correctly quoted Surah Luqman on the issue!

as a non Muslim you must realize the power of the human voice, eh? i remember when i was a little tyke, i went to a performance of "Up With People," one thing that struck me was the POWER of the voice, it practically lifted me out of my seat! and add music to that voice, and you can increase that power! if your old enough, remember Born to Be Wild by Steppenwolf? the birth of Heavy Metal and "air guitarists!"

do you rock to Helter Skelter by the Beatles?
enjoy the lush voices in My Sweet Lord by George Harrison?
does Janis Joplin raise the hairs on the back of your neck?
does the anarchy of the Clash get you pumping your fist?
does Neil Young's After The Goldrush or Harvest Moon make you smile?
does his work with Crazy Horse make you bop yer head up and down?
remember Tonight's The Night?
remember Deep Purple's Burn?
or ELP's Carn Evil Third Impression?
can you remember the 1st time you heard Stevie Ray Vaughan's Texas Flood?
or Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon? or The Wall?

music can be VERY powerful, and it DEFINITELY can effect your emotions.


now, as a Muslim, you want COMPLETE control over your emotions AND if you ARE going to listen to something, you want it to be something that adds to your Iman and does not anger Allah!

as a nonMuslim, you will try to find "music" that would be acceptable to your creator, if you believed in one, in order to refute us. and YES i think that some Bach is LOVELY, but being an old hippe, i would have preferred Paganini, or 6 Grand Etudes After Paganini [which i love!]

alot of stuff might be perceived as "acceptable," to a nonMuslim. however as a Muslim what is more acceptable the VERY words of our creator, or something created by the creation? the next best would be the words taught to us by our Prophet Muhammad ibn Abdullah, pbuh!

but you see, as a non Muslim, you only think that the Words of Allah are those to us because "that's what we believe.", BUT for us, there is absolutely no doubt!

sadly i doubt we could ever convince you. but do you at least understand my point?

YusufNoor said:

music can be VERY powerful, and it DEFINITELY can effect your emotions.

sadly i doubt we could ever convince you. but do you at least understand my point?

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Greetings Yusuf,

I understand what is said above but that I presume is your interpretation/opinion which may be correct and valid. The firts problem is identifying what is music and that is done by scholars who might differ. The next and more difficult problem I see is that there are many things available today (that were not known of 1300 years ago) that might have the same 'harmful' effect as music. So the question arises (as it constantly does with Islam) do you stick to the literal word of the Qur'an or do you 'interpret' it and adapt it to include modern day things. But all that said, I am sure questions about music are so far down the list of 'important' questions they should, perhaps, fall off the list.

Its all about making sacrafices. Unfortunately, most people will never understand that. This dunya means too much to them. This is just to people in general, no one specific btw. Good thread too eace:

-Kai- said:

Its all about making sacrafices. Unfortunately, most people will never understand that. This dunya means too much to them. This is just to people in general, no one specific btw. Good thread too eace:

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My point exactly....

some people don't understand that it is very much possible for the grass to be greener on the other side! and what I mean by that is...try to cut out music for one day in your life well..not for one day..but maybe for one week and no matter what ....you will see an ultimate difference

I was once addicted to music so much too! Then I slowly started to stop, first I would not listen to music during the working week but then falter on the weekends and then the cycle would repeat. Then when I was stronger, I stopped listening completely. I then searched up and found a bunch of nasheeds to replace the music so eveytime I get a craving, I listen to those instead. And now, inshaAllah, that will soon transition to also listening to Quran.

I used to listen to music so that I could feel certain emotions, what a waste of my time! I'm more productive now without it!

:salamext:

Before people start asking the rulings on music or state a view based on intellectual thinking, I would suggest users to view this thread (http://www.islamicboard.com/miscellaneous/134277415-music.html).

Thinker said:

Greetings Yusuf,

I understand what is said above but that I presume is your interpretation/opinion which may be correct and valid.

at the least, we have do do what we believe is correct and continue seeking what is correct.


The firts problem is identifying what is music and that is done by scholars who might differ.

i'm puzzled by this statement! music is music, isn't it?

The next and more difficult problem I see is that there are many things available today (that were not known of 1300 years ago) that might have the same 'harmful' effect as music.

such as?

So the question arises (as it constantly does with Islam) do you stick to the literal word of the Qur'an or do you 'interpret' it and adapt it to include modern day things.

actually there are enough scholars around to explain who instructions recived 1400 years ago are to be applied today. for myself, i trust Dr Bilal Philips (Salaf); for issues around regarding Riba and Eschatology, i rank (Sufi) Scholar Maulana Imran Hosein and tops in the field; for help in explaining issues i usually turn to Mufti Ismail Menk (who i assume is Hanafi but teaches mainly Shafi'is in Africa).


But all that said, I am sure questions about music are so far down the list of 'important' questions they should, perhaps, fall off the list.

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Peace Thinker,

actually music was a big issue for me. i used to own tons of cds, more than 3000 (mostly bootlegs.) i still love music, but consider my Religion more important. in fact i listened to music regularly my 1st years as a Muslim. i stopped when i got married. IF i do want to listen to some, i will. HOWEVER, i would prefer to learn Qur'an.

and regarding the music that i DID listen to, i slowly just got rid of the stuff the clearly is undesirable. i still own some Utopia and some YES [maybe some RUSH ], but they generally don't focus on party party type stuff. but i really don't listen to it. i DO miss Slade and, Mott the Hoople and the Sensational Alex Harvey Band along with Return To Forever and Miles Davis.

the FORTUNATE thing about being a Muslim is that we ask for guidance from Allah daily. as you grow in strength and understanding, other distracions become less important.

it's OK to learn as you go!

music is just another tool to influence young and old

J.U.N.I.O.R said:

music is just another tool to influence young and old

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By whom exactly? Musicians, shaytan, Israel..?

Whatsthepoint said:

By whom exactly? Musicians, shaytan, Israel..?

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music lowers the guard much like alcohol, it causes a intoxication of sorts.

just look at every nightclub out there

it can also play with your heart a lot... a LOT

Speaking as an ardent Morrissey fan I found it hard to understand how all music can be bad, and still do. However I see that bands such as the smiths etc are very powerful over the psyche and it is actually not so much a sin but a controlling force that shapes your character and gets in the way of seeing the world with clear eyes. Love Morrissey but try very hard to abstain in order to keep a clear mind as it does affect my prayer times and faith. sorry Moz im still fond of you, just love Allah more

I listen to instrumentals during study time simply because I would fall asleep without it. But if I have to quit it then I will simply quit it. I could of sworn there was a post here by someone saying 'thats one reason why I will never become a Muslim' or something along those lines. Apparently music is everything to some people.

TKTony you're right about that. A good example of that is athletes before a game. Theres a good chance you won't find a football player listening to Mariah Carey before a game Sports I can understand but, when you have someone in their car or whatever listening to this stuff, you can usually tell they are listening to some kind of 'inspirational' music by the way they are zigzagging through traffic while they are singing, well more like screaming. Not that people in Florida know how to drive anyways :exhausted

I was always a Scorpions fan. I used to listen to their music all the time, it didn't have any negative effects on me even though the scorpions are hard rock band.
I found out on this forum that music was haram, so I tried to stop listening to music...in the last couple of months I only listened to music twice. And I gotta say that I didn't see any positive changes in me...
I accept the hadith about music being haram and that's why i'm trying to stop listening to music...but I haven't heard any convincing explanations for why music is haram...