Imitating the kufar

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

When Allah commands something, no thing, or no one, can decieve a believer. Look at the life of the ashaba. Besides, all it takes is a little used to.

According to this fatwa there are conditions under which a woman can wear trousers.

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the World; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

Wearing pants is not permissible for a woman except if it meets the following conditions:
First, the pants should be covered with another loose outer garment, which covers them.
Second, the pants of women should not be similar to those of men.
Third, the purpose of wearing pants should not be to imitate non-believing women.
Whenever the above conditions are met wearing pants becomes permissible.
Know that the dress of the woman should always be thick, loose and large enough to cover her whole body.
In addition to the above conditions if the dress is worn outside of her house it should not have any particular features that make it attractive or unusual.
All these conditions are set for the woman to protect her only and to protect her honour as well from humiliation or from being ravished by evil persons.
Finally a Muslimah should totally submit herself to the Commands of Allah. And should believe firmly that all benefits are only in following the Shariah, and all disadvantages are in disobeying Allah.
Please refer to the Fatwa: 81209.

It should also be noted that in most Islamic countries the prefered choice of clothing for women is the Kurta (Loose fitting long top) and the Pajama (Loose long trousers worn under the Kurta) This female attire has a very long history and quite likely some of the Muslim Women living during the time of Muhammad (PBUH) dressed in that manner.

Trousers did not become men's wear in the Western world until about the middle ages, up to then trousers were considered women's clothing. The men wore skirts similar to Scottish kilts.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

When Allah commands something, no thing, or no one, can decieve a believer. Look at the life of the ashaba. Besides, all it takes is a little used to.

jeans are actually the material of the cloth...

the origins of the jeans are actually worn by the farmers...then it became a trend. so...the people nowadays are actually wearing the farmers cloth.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

Brother Woodrow, excelent post. It does fitt with the thread.

Lo, sis syilla I've got to do some "shopping!!!! like OMG...." Yeah, I attend a public school so I wear pants and over them a dress down to my knees. I need to find non- farmer pants if they excist in stores. ANyways, off topic.

If you can find a farm supply store such as Otasco or TSC you will find genuine working farm clothes that are designed for farm work and not fashion looks.

You can also find Oshkosh overalls on line. Those worn under a long top or dress would also fit the bill

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

I don't know anything about farm clothes but I can find good dresses in burlington(store). All pants are farm pants though

Is this a joke?

My error. I snagged the picture from the catalog.

Aabidah wears pants when we are working with the horses. Quite often we have to ride horses that are not fully broken and we get thrown. Wearing a dress would not be practical or modest if any onlooker wandered by.

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No problem with me anyone gave objection ?

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scholars say that we cannot imitate the kufar in traditions,cloathing etc...
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In my culture , normally hindu married women use ' tip ' ( a small red spot on forehead as a sign that she is married ) , wear white bangles etc. So , some say here that Muslim women must not use this tip or bangle as fashion to avoid the hindu culture .

Now a days , to remember a person who died , people put candles on a stage and remain silent . Islamic Scholars say Muslims must not do that as dead persons are not benifitted by any of these and this is not
something Prophet pbuh did for anyone.

format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow

My error. . I snagged the picture from the catalog.

Aabidah wears pants when we are working with the horses. Quite often we have to ride horses that are not fully broken and we get thrown. Wearing a dress would not be practical or modest if any onlooker wandered by.

Its okay my respected brother. "We all err". MashAllah, it is very nice to have animals.I misunderstood you. I just was talking about pants under the dress.Because any pants ar eimitation of kufr. Anyways, not a very prudent conversation.

Thanks for to help brother

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

Its okay my respected brother. "We all err". MashAllah, it is very nice to have animals.

Here is another style of overalls.



The horses are part of our livelihood we raise and sell paint horses. Horses are still widely used on ranches up here.

1) We need to stop importing fatawa from other lands in issues that are not present in the land where the fatwa is being sought. There will be a lack of experience in the one from whom the fatwa is being sought and a discrepancy because he won't be aware of the situation of the place where the fatwa will be applied.

2) Following from that, we need to ask our local scholars who are learned in the religion AND in touch with the customs and situations of the land - that is the only way we'll get a fatwa suitable for our time and place.

3) There is nothing wrong with wearing the clothes of the land we live in, as long it isn't the clothes that the sinful people are known by or people of other religions. The Prophet (saw) wore the clothes of the 'Arabs (even though they were in Jahiliyyah) and when he dressed up on occasions such as 'Eid, he dressed up according to what was considered 'dressing up' in the culture of the land. He did not come to change the 'dress code' or form an "Islamic" line of clothing. This is of course with clothing that follows the Islamic guidelines (awrah is covered etc).

I heard from Shaykh Yaser Birjas, who said that he was with Sh. Uthaymeen and a person came to him from a foreign land and asked if wearing 'pants' was allowed or would it constitute 'imitation'. The Shaykh (rahimullah) asked if it was the norm of the land where he came from that everyone wore pants, and when the questioner replied 'yes' the Shaykh said then there is nothing wrong with it.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

My mother got some candles. I should throw them out?

Of Course No sis . Just don't think that if u lit the candles , it will benifit the dead persons.

In my country , for few hours we have to stay without electricity at night . In that case , we need to use candles . If your mom does not need these candles , u can give those to any needy people.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

Thank you Muslim woman.

My mother got some candles. I should throw them out?

Only if you are going to use them for a religious ritual. You youngsters growing up in the electric age. You have no memories of when candles where the primary means of lighting the house. I grew up in a rural area without electricity and to me candles are what light bulbs are to you.

I notice you live in Florida, you best keep candles on hand for when the electricity goes out from a hurrican.

Okay, thanks for all. I really do appreciate it.

I don't understand when fatwas have different rulings to a different country. I can't distinguish between commands, disliked etc... here.Sorry I complain.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

I don't understand when fatwas have different rulings to a different country.

I think the main point is don't follow disbelievers blindly . Some young people try to follow all western cultures like wearing ring in one ear or both ears .

Now a days many girls don't wear orna / long shawl here but boys started wearing this . O my God. Sometimes I want to laugh , sometimes I feel scared . Looks like end time is near . Girls are wearing dress of men , men are wearing dress like women - they forgot the warning of our Prophet pbuh - Allah curse these men and women.

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

Okay, thanks for all. I really do appreciate it.

I don't understand when fatwas have different rulings to a different country. I can't distinguish between commands, disliked etc... here.Sorry I complain.

Fatwas are normally issued by an Iman addressing specific events in his masjid. A fatwas normally is not binding it is basically an opinion and like all opinion the listener, reader needs to verify how and if it applies to him/her.

Perhaps this will help:

Definition: A fatwa is an Islamic religious ruling, a scholarly opinion on a matter of Islamic law.

A fatwa is issued by a recognized religious authority in Islam. But since there is no hierarchical priesthood or anything of the sort in Islam, a fatwa is not necessarily "binding" on the faithful. The people who pronounce these rulings are supposed to be knowledgable, and base their rulings in knowledge and wisdom. They need to supply the evidence from Islamic sources for their opinions, and it is not uncommon for scholars to come to different conclusions regarding the same issue.

As Muslims, we look at the opinion, the reputation of the person giving it, the evidence given to support it, and then decide whether to follow it or not. When there are conflicting opinions issued by different scholars, we compare the evidence and then choose the opinion to which our God-given conscience guides us.

SOURCE:http://islam.about.com/od/law/g/fatwa.htm

format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema

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The scholars say that we cannot imitate the kufar in traditions,cloathing etc...
I wish that was more detailed. In my culture, candles are disliked becasue the kufis use them when they pray to :zip:

What is my question?
Give me as much information as you can.

May Allah,subHana wa ta'ala, reward you.

try these sis
http://www.islamicboard.com/870355-post1.html
http://islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=21...&txt=imitating