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    Could someone please explain to me why the burning of the bodies, that the US militry personel did, insulted the people of this faith. I just want to understand, could you qoute any scripture that explains why this was wrong ?
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Sorry about that, but do you have an answer ? I want to understand

    a body of a muslimshouldnt be burnt

    i know some religions practise cremation but
    in islam this is not allowed and shows great disrespect and dishonour. a persons grave should not even be walked on.


    hope that explains why muslims would feel offended by bodies being burnt
    also the us army im sure are very well aware of this and need not burn bodies in the first place
    taking innocent lives is bad enough...
    Could someone please explain

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    Re: Could someone please explain

    As Muslims we believe that we should be buried. In the Quraan is states that

    From the earth We have created you and unto the earth We shall return you and from it, again, We will resurrect you once again!” (20:55)

    We were originally created from clay and therefore we are to be returned to the earth once we die - only to be resurrected again on the Day of Judgement

    I hope this clears your query

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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi'ya View Post
    As Muslims we believe that we should be buried. In the Quraan is states that

    From the earth We have created you and unto the earth We shall return you and from it, again, We will resurrect you once again!” (20:55)

    We were originally created from clay and therefore we are to be returned to the earth once we die - only to be resurrected again on the Day of Judgement

    I hope this clears your query

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    This has helped, what they did, did not, keep these people from being reserected in the after life, I hope ? You see I understand that some relgions believe that mutilating the dead body can cause problems in the after life, I don't want the US to get into some kind of stupid actions trying to hurt people's faith in the hear after
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    2 rodney let me attempt an answer due to my limited knowledge... i think its bcoz evry1 belongs to Allah(god) so only He has the right to do what He likes with a dead persons body. we just return it to the earth from which it was created. hope that clears it up. :happy1:
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    I am not qualified to answer too many questions and would rather leave someone with more knowledge to answer this question.

    Rodney, i would just like to thank you for asking your questyions in a very civilised way. its makes a change from others we get on this site

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    Re: Could someone please explain

    Hi Rodney,
    Yes, cremation is forbidden in Islam and you can read about that here. As for affecting their afterlife, it will have no affect because all human bodies will be regenerated, whether they be incinerated, mutilated, etc. Everyone will be resurrected to stand before their creator on a final day.

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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl View Post
    Hi Rodney,
    Yes, cremation is forbidden in Islam and you can read about that here. As for affecting their afterlife, it will have no affect because all human bodies will be regenerated, whether they be incinerated, mutilated, etc. Everyone will be resurrected to stand before their creator on a final day.

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    Then why is it forbidden ?
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    Hi,
    It is forbidden in the same way mutilation is forbidden - not because it has ay affect on the resurrection, but because it is an act of disrespect and destroying the creation of God.

    Does that clarify?
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl View Post
    Hi,
    It is forbidden in the same way mutilation is forbidden - not because it has ay affect on the resurrection, but because it is an act of disrespect and destroying the creation of God.

    Does that clarify?

    Yep, that explains why Islamic people got so upset about it, what I now don't understand is they get upset over that , but don't when "they" do it to others.

    I see a religion that has two standards, now that is what I can't understand
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Yep, that explains why Islamic people got so upset about it, what I now don't understand is they get upset over that , but don't when "they" do it to others.
    When do Muslims do it to others? Unless you're opening the Can o' Worms marked 'Terrorism' in which case they're not real Muslims anyway, just sad fanatics using Islam as some sort of shield for their own Freudian revenge dreams.

    I see a religion that has two standards, now that is what I can't understand
    Which religion?
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    hi Rodney...
    can u mention a point when muslims have done it to others??
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Yep, that explains why Islamic people got so upset about it, what I now don't understand is they get upset over that , but don't when "they" do it to others.

    I see a religion that has two standards, now that is what I can't understand


    salam! tell me wht u mean by "they" do it to others? plz do explain tht to me..
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    format_quote Originally Posted by sapphire View Post
    hi Rodney...
    can u mention a point when muslims have done it to others??
    When they turn aircraft into fire bombs that burn thousands, when the blow "innocent" people to little bitty pieces, when they drag the mutilated bodies of American GI's through the streets, and stomp on them, when they be-head helpless hostages, that have done nothing wrong, when they dump those headless bodies on the side of the streets.

    They show no respect to the living, or dead of their enemies.

    What the GI's did was wrong

    What the extremist Muslims do is also wrong, but you don't see other Muslims getting all worked up about that, but you do see Christens getting worked up when Americans burn a couple of bodies.

    My faith says sin is sin, there is never accepted cases where it is not sin, No where in the Bible does it state it's ok to sin "if".

    God made me a Christin, he made others Muslim, just like he made some people male and some female, we are all here at the will of God, why would we hate another because that is the way God made them. A person loves God only to the extent he loves his worst enemy, how can anyone love God, but hate what he has made ?

    There are many who claim to be Christin, yet they hate Muslims, or Jews, or Blacks, or whites, these people know nothing of the Love of God, they have a man made religion, but God made them that way as well, as well as he made those who really follow him
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    What the extremist Muslims do is also wrong, but you don't see other Muslims getting all worked up about that,
    Says who? Just because the biased western media feels thatr 1 statement of an extremist is more interesting than 1000 condemnations of true Muslims, does that mean that these true Muslims don't exist?

    You have the audacity to call Islam a religion with two standard when I clearly stated that Islam described the cremation/mutilation of ANY human being to be abhorrent. I never said it was only for Muslims.

    I'll just share one statement with you on the respect for life in Islam:

    Once the Prophet was seated at some place in Madinah, along with his Companions. During this time a funeral procession passed by. On seeing this, the Prophet stood up. One of his Companion remarked that the funeral was that of a Jew. The Prophet replied, “Was he not a human being?” (Bukhari, Muslim)

    In Islam there is respect for all huamn beings regardless of their race or religion. When anyone is mutilated and we Muslims condemn such an act, just because we are not given coverage in the media does not mean that we don't exist.

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    When they turn aircraft into fire bombs that burn thousands, when the blow "innocent" people to little bitty pieces, when they drag the mutilated bodies of American GI's through the streets, and stomp on them, when they be-head helpless hostages, that have done nothing wrong, when they dump those headless bodies on the side of the streets.

    They show no respect to the living, or dead of their enemies.
    There are many who claim to be Christin, yet they hate Muslims, or Jews, or Blacks, or whites, these people know nothing of the Love of God, they have a man made religion, but God made them that way as well, as well as he made those who really follow him
    Then understand this, there are many who 'claim' to be Muslim but do not follow what Islam teaches. If there can be 'Christians' who don't understand their religion, then why can't there be 'Muslims' who don't understand their religion?
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    When they turn aircraft into fire bombs that burn thousands, when the blow "innocent" people to little bitty pieces, when they drag the mutilated bodies of American GI's through the streets, and stomp on them, when they be-head helpless hostages, that have done nothing wrong, when they dump those headless bodies on the side of the streets.
    You opened the Can 'O' Worms. These people (I use that in the loosest sense) are not even real Muslims, since real Muslims would never commit such heinous acts.

    They show no respect to the living, or dead of their enemies.
    Because 'they' are mindless brutes, not true Muslims.

    What the GI's did was wrong

    What the extremist Muslims do is also wrong, but you don't see other Muslims getting all worked up about that, but you do see Christens getting worked up when Americans burn a couple of bodies.
    You may not see Muslims getting all worked up - that does not mean they do not. I agree with Ansar.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl View Post
    Says who? Just because the biased western media feels thatr 1 statement of an extremist is more interesting than 1000 condemnations of true Muslims, does that mean that these true Muslims don't exist?
    This is very true....there are hundred of thousands of Muslims in the UK. such a small minority have committed crimes yet this is taken as if the majority supports it. The media does not cover the ciews of the Muslims who follow the faith correctly and understand the teachings.

    To commit a crime then hide it behind a mask - Islam -does not mean that all Muslims feel the same.



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    Re: Could someone please explain

    as a non-muslim once said to me: if 98% of muslims were terrorists and 2% wernt that 2% would still be a large number.
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    Re: Could someone please explain

    yeh, it would be a large population but i dont think you wanna publish those figures here :S lolz, people cud get the wrong idea



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