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    Ups and downs for reverts (OP)


    Hello everyone.

    I am writing as I would really like to know how those of you who have reverted to Islam have been doing since converting and what problems you have had to face.

    I converted over two years ago and have been very off and on with practicing and I have even had doubts about whether my decision to convert was the right one

    At the beginning I was very positive and worked hard to be regular in my prayers and not drink alcohol, etc. Now I have moved countries and I don't know other muslims near me and think if I did, it would help me in growing stronger and becoming a better muslim, which I really am not at the moment

    Do you think it is normal to have these experiences? What about your experiences?

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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

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    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    How old are you, bibish, if you don't mind me asking?
    That's ok! I'm not that young - I'm 27
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    Greetings,

    I'm sure that as you're 27, your parents will realise you're old enough to make your own decisions. It may come as a shock to them, but I think it's definitely worth discussing. Get it out in the open.

    I hope it works out for you.

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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,

    I'm sure that as you're 27, your parents will realise you're old enough to make your own decisions. It may come as a shock to them, but I think it's definitely worth discussing. Get it out in the open.

    I hope it works out for you.

    Peace
    I agree with you, cz.

    However, I don't think people always appreciate how strong the emotions and reactions of some people can be when their loved ones 'become religious' or change religion.
    It can be a very emotive situation, and the reactions can be very strong and have lasting consequences ...

    I hope you find the courage to speak to your parents, bibish.
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    Cz and glo - could I ask you both a question? As an atheist and a christian, what made you join and continue to use these forums? I am interested to know. You are both so refreshingly openminded and encouraging about Islam as well
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by bibish View Post
    Cz and glo - could I ask you both a question? As an atheist and a christian, what made you join and continue to use these forums? I am interested to know. You are both so refreshingly openminded and encouraging about Islam as well
    I disagree with Islam on many matters, but I think that if someone wants to be a Muslim, nobody should try to prevent them.

    I'm here because I think Muslims and non-Muslims need to talk more.

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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    Bibish, speaking for myself, I came here to learn more about Islam.

    I live in a community with a sizeable Muslim minority of Pakistani background; and I was frustrated because it seemed impossible to get to interact with them. So I felt I had to go elsewhere to learn about Islam ... and I found this forum.
    It still is difficult to interact with local Muslims three years later, but with the knowledge I have gained here in this forum I can go out and treat my Muslim neighbours in a manner which they would find appropriate.
    (I find that 'Ramadan Mubarak' rolls off my tongue quite easily these days ... and a Muslim family in our street and my family now exchange Eid and Christmas present on a regular basis. )

    I am not considering Islam for myself, but I would love to see greater interfaith working between our faiths.
    We share so much in common, and if we applied our religious teachings properly, we could - in a combined effort- make our communities better places!

    Why I continue to be a member here?
    Well, I do take some time out once in a while, but I stay because
    a) I continue to learn about Islam,
    b) hopefully others can learn from me (and other Christians) about Christianity, and
    c) I have simply made some wonderful friends here.
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Bibish, speaking for myself, I came here to learn more about Islam.

    I live in a community with a sizeable Muslim minority of Pakistani background; and I was frustrated because it seemed impossible to get to interact with them. So I felt I had to go elsewhere to learn about Islam ... and I found this forum.
    It still is difficult to interact with local Muslims three years later, but with the knowledge I have gained here in this forum I can go out and treat my Muslim neighbours in a manner which they would find appropriate.
    (I find that 'Ramadan Mubarak' rolls off my tongue quite easily these days ... and a Muslim family in our street and my family now exchange Eid and Christmas present on a regular basis. )

    I am not considering Islam for myself, but I would love to see greater interfaith working between our faiths.
    We share so much in common, and if we applied our religious teachings properly, we could - in a combined effort- make our communities better places!

    Why I continue to be a member here?
    Well, I do take some time out once in a while, but I stay because
    a) I continue to learn about Islam,
    b) hopefully others can learn from me (and other Christians) about Christianity, and
    c) I have simply made some wonderful friends here.
    That's great! It is good that you made such an effort to learn about it by going on a forum to be able to get to understand your neighbours more. I can't say that many people would do that! I personally have found this forum very informative so far and a lot of more 'serious' than many other islamic forums I have encountered.

    And thank you all for your wonderful advice
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    We share so much in common, and if we applied our religious teachings properly, we could - in a combined effort- make our communities better places!
    exactly i dont know why all the media brags something or the other about islam being this and that, when Islam is the closest religion to christianity. West needs to learn to respect their own religion first.
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    I personally have found this forum very informative so far and a lot of more 'serious' than many other islamic forums I have encountered.
    Thank you

    And thank you all for your wonderful advice
    Thank you again and hope you do the same while staying here
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    format_quote Originally Posted by convert View Post
    This is a major sin. You have to disobey your parents if what they say counters Islam.

    I believe not fasting Ramadaan makes you a kafir (I will have to find proof though but if sawm is an arkam it only logically follows here).

    If you can pray secretly, why can't you fast secretly?
    Does not fasting during ramadan make me a kafir? Isn't it just a major sin? Isn't carrying out the pillars a prerequisite to being a practicing Muslim but not to being a Muslim?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by bibish View Post
    Does not fasting during ramadan make me a kafir? Isn't it just a major sin? Isn't carrying out the pillars a prerequisite to being a practicing Muslim but not to being a Muslim?

    Thank you
    Although you should do everything you can to fast, not fasting does not make you a kafir. Scholars debate about what the "minimum" is to still be called a Muslim, some say it is to have faith in the first pillar, and some others also say one must pray as well. But missing Ramadan is regarded as a major sin, not an act of kufr.
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    Sis ,

    If you belive in one god and muhammad pbuh as his messenger truly in your heart , then you are a muslim and not kaifr (which simply means non muslim),

    As for fasting , i think you should learn more about etiquittes and the rules of fasting before deciding to fast

    May Allah bless you
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I sometimes see muslims who are really not friendly and at present I am going through a patch of seeing born muslims behaving bad and it can pull ur imaan down, then I see ppl who dont do salaat and appearto be non practising then I realise they are praying every meal, teaching thier kids surrahs, not cheating in business etc etc, and I feel far from Islam, this also pulls imaan down. The answer is definatley keepup with salaat, read Qur'an, friday mosque and dont judge anuone. Ramadhan will teach us the meaning and value of imaan and peace. Sister theres always some sort of confusion or hardship for us reverts but Alhamdulullah Allah wanted us to live off the path before bringing us to Islam. Never ever give up asking for His help, we really need it
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    format_quote Originally Posted by zeerina View Post
    Tony
    Check this out
    assalamu aleiykum sister, sorry but check what out. Peace
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    assalamu aleiykum sister, sorry but check what out. Peace
    sorry Tony my link didnt seem to work

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    also on facebook
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    format_quote Originally Posted by zeerina View Post
    sorry Tony my link didnt seem to work

    www.newmuslimconfluence.org

    also on facebook


    Jazak Allah Khair sister, I have emailed them offering support for their work promoting Islam and cross cultural respect.
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    Re: Ups and downs for reverts

    assalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

    Ramadhan Mubarak.

    I cannot emphasize this enough, but go about learning Islaam gradually. Do not try to become a sponge of knowledge in a day. Pray that Allaah (swt) makes it easy for you, learn, believe, implement, be consistent in the small things, seek support from pious Muslims, and pray more.

    As far as fasting, yes, indeed sister, you should fast. This is a very important time and a month of mercy and self improvement.

    My advice to you sister is: Pray and make du'aa for strength
    1. Be sure you know why you became a Muslim.
    2. Learn the 5 pillars and their importance.
    3. Pray and make du'aa for strength


    I highly advise you to listen to this lecture by Shaykh Zahir Mahmood. Insh'Allaah you will derive benefit.

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    As was said by the famous scholar Ibn Shihab Az-Zuhri, "Whoever aims to acquire knowledge all at once, it will leave him all at once. Rather knowledge should be acquired over the passage of days and nights"

    a very good talk about the obstacles new muslim might come across and us as muslim all our life havnt had to experince pls listen to it
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