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Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

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    Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

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    Maybe a stupid Question But why Do we Say For Example Surah- Ichlaas
    In the beginning The Word 'Kul' Wich means 'say' Why dont we just say:

    Hüvallahü ehad,
    Allahüs samed ,
    Lem yelid ve lem yuled ,
    Ve lem yekün lehu küfüven ehad .

    (Say) ......

    He is Allah, the One;
    Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
    He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
    And there is none like unto Him.

    The Surah Is meant for us To say But why do we put Kul (Say) In the beginning when we Pray thats what I dont understand

    Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???


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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

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    Thats an interesting question, i'll try and see if i can search for some answers, Insha'Allah.

    It could be to do with when the Qura'an was revealed to the Prophet Salallahu Alayhi Wassalam, it was as a command to him, as in to 'say' it to the people...WaAllahu A'lam

    I'll see if i can look for a definite answer

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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???



    Isn't it because Allah is commanding us to say it...
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    Yah but why do WE say ..'SAY' in the beginning Thats what I dont understand
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???



    I think...When the Quran was being revealed on our beloved Prophet, Allah commanded him to "say"/"kul" to the people...Idk...

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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    format_quote Originally Posted by Güven View Post
    Yah but why do WE say ..'SAY' in the beginning Thats what I dont understand
    Because it is part of the Quran! We can't just take out words from the Quran when we read it...
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    ^Yah Ofcourse I know we cant take part of the Quran out, astafurallah

    But the thing is He told Us To SAY ... Hüvallahü ehad, Allahüs samed , Lem yelid ve lem yuled ,Ve lem yekün lehu küfüven ehad.
    But why do we still Say ..." SAY "in the beginning
    it sounds like we are Saying To tell OTHER people to say it but actualy we have To say it for ourselves ALLAHU ALIM
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???



    Try asking a Scholar, Insha'Allah. They should be able to help you more than us, as their knowledge exceeds the laymans.

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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari View Post
    It could be to do with when the Qura'an was revealed to the Prophet Salallahu Alayhi Wassalam, it was as a command to him, as in to 'say' it to the people...WaAllahu A'lam
    Yes, I believe that is it. Good question, by the way.
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari View Post


    Try asking a Scholar, Insha'Allah. They should be able to help you more than us, as their knowledge exceeds the laymans.

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    And Where Can I Find A Scolar
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    Assalamu Alaykum,

    Are there any Masajid near where you live akhee? Maybe you could ask one of the Imaams.

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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    Yah We have Some Masjids here , I will Try To Ask Inshallah

    Jazakallaah Khair For Comments btw
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???



    One interesting point is that the "Qul" is actually a proof that the Qur'an is from Allaah (swt) and not made up by anyone else, because otherwise it wouldn't be there. I guess this is kind of looking at it from the opposite perspective.
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    ^ Good Point , But for example when We do the salat And You recite Ichlaas and you say Kul But To who are we Sayin Kul, Isnt it suppose to be that WE have to recite It
    and Not to Say ..Say ? Allahu ALim
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???



    Its because the quran was revealed to muhammad (pbuh), and allah commanded him to say the text he revealed to him.

    So for example

    (Say oh Muhammad)

    He is Allah, the One;

    So 'say' implies to muhammad(pbuh) to actuall say the relavtion to others.
    Wa Allahu a3lam
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    ^ Yeah He Told Him(Saw) To SAY : He is Allah, The One
    So why is The SAY Included .......Allahu Alim
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???


    i was going to say the similar thing as RaOnar
    because the qur'an was revealed to Muhammad (pbuh), the angel Gabriel said to our beloved prophet "Qul Huwallahu Ahad", meaning that Gabriel said to him "say that allah is one!"
    so what he means with "Say" is that he should tell everybody (sahaba's etc.) about it
    for instance, "Say to them that allah is one" etc.
    that is what i most probably think is right, wallahu a3lam
    every right thing i said comes from allah, and evvery mistake i made comes from me
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    But Why Do WE still Say ...SAY in our salat or when we recite doesnt it sound strange when we Say .. SAY He is Allah, The One;
    to who Are WE saying SAY?? , I understand That the Prophet (Pbuh) Said to companions and the others but why are WE saying it.. Allahu Alim
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    It's more dramatic.

    Hmm..

    Actually, I don't find it too strange to say "Say there is only one God". It's like you are repeating the words said to you, like you are reminding yourself of what was said to you.. But it is a good question..

    Please, someone ask a scholar.
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    Re: Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???

    I think...When the Quran was being revealed on our beloved Prophet, Allah commanded him to "say"/"kul" to the people...Idk...huh - Why Kul (Say) In the beginning???
    my dear sister Crazy lady is right.....and cause Allah knew that the Unbelievers will accuse our prophet Muhmmad salla Allah alyhi wa sallam by manufacturing the Qura`n and it is not from Allah but a lie from the prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) Astagfor Allah....

    thats way there is Kul...

    Wa Allaho A`alam
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