okie i've edited my post and deleted my contents and inserted the Following by Aboo Sulaymaan jazaahullaahu khayr which was posted at tibyaan forums as i felt his words are much more comprehensive and beneficial than mines mashaAllaah Ta`ala.
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh
The democratic elections are soon approaching in the u.k. and there will again be a strong push by people to get everyone involved in voting, and they will try to pass this off as being Islaamically permissable, and some will say that it is recommended, while those who are further away from the Guidnce will say that it is an obligation upon the Muslims to vote. Please, take the material that clarifies the rulings on voting and elections and spread it as much as you can. Print the books and articles and hand them out, whoever has the ability to give Khutbahs and/or lessons, then let the topic be on this issue for the next while. Don't let those who call to shirk have more influence than those who call to Tawheed. This is an obligation on everyone, each based upon his own ability. If we see how much zeal these people have in calling to shirk, then we should have more than that when calling to the Truth. Don't forget this, and remember how many of us were upon misguidance until Allaah Ta'aala let someone show us the Truth, so be that to someone else, and don't just say that they are misguided, so who cares.
Jazaakum Allaahu Khayran.
Once again forgive me inshaAllaah for leaving this most important topic so late!
Was Salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
Last edited by -Umm_Abdullah-; 04-30-2005 at 09:17 PM.
Again typical HT --, where do you want to go for laws regarding speed limit, hospitals, education, not everything is about a War on Islam, can HT bring one single hadith or ayah where the Prophet banned voting in Kufr elections?
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Last edited by Ansar Al-'Adl; 05-03-2005 at 11:58 PM.
Exactly, nothing wrong with voting, so if gay marriage's are allowed for example and new law is made, and the muslims never opposed it because they couldnt vote, but if they had voted they had the ability to prevent it bieng brought in, is that right?
We need to vote to stand up and makes ourselves heard instead of bieng trampled over.
"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)
'Have you seen those who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you and that which has been sent down before you and they wish to go for judgement in their dispute to the Taaghout i.e. false Judges etc while they have been ordered to reject them but Shaytaan wishes to lead them far astray' [4:60]
refer to tafsir of this verse for further clarification inshaAllah
No one is referring their judgement to anyone, we are having a say in the issues of the country. If you won't vote, you'll be run over and will have to live in more unislamic conditions.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
There is nothing that goes much against it in Islam.
So Glorified is He and Exalted above all that they associate with Him, and in Whose Hands is the dominion of all things, and to Him you shall be returned.
(Sura Ya-Seen 36:83)
Huh? I'm confused? Are we allowed to vote? Yes? No?
Well I wouldn't say it is fard or haram. But if you want to establish Islamic values then it is the right thing to do.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
by voting we are establishing the values of Islam.
So legalising prostitution , the consent age, nightclubbing, drinking, drugs - thats all helping establish islam?
Dont forget the manifesto is what they show just to get you to vote so that their side can win! Once they are in power its a whole different story - everyone was witness to this with the labour party.
There is nothing that goes much against it in Islam.
So the fact that democracy clearly states that no one is above the one whom crates laws in the houses of parliament isnt haram? When we clearly know that Allaah is above us?
The fact that you are going by man made laws and not by Allaahs law is not haraam?
^^ i read umar bakris name and i ran from that site <_< he and his people say WACKO things
regarding voting..im not sure..dont concern me just yet so not obthered.
on one side you could say `we vote for the less of the evils`
on other side we day that this `less of evils` are the same evils that are destroyign the muslims quietly
personally i think my labour mp is fab he supports the muslims loads and was eve n called a traitor by other labour mps..standing against iraq
against those terrorism laws
stood for muslims in the gujarat massacres
all sorts..hes cool
Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
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