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    Life in the grave

    Many people doubt the fact that people in the grave are going through severe punishments or enjoying a peaceful stay. This is due to the reason that when a grave is dug, we do not see any fire burning people or gigantic snakes biting dead bodies. All we see are bones mixed with soil. Well, then where is the punishment or peace? Whether we can see it or not, the promise of Allah is true. Allah gave us many things to understand things better. He tells us that there are signs in His creations for those who think. To understand this particular issue (grave) better, we can examine our dreams. Say, a person is sleeping right beside you. He is seeing a dream where some people are trying to kill him. They catch him and starts beating him. Finally, they take out a gun and shoots him. You are sitting beside this sleeping individual, but you do not see any of these things. However, he is experiencing all these things, it's just you cannot see. The same way, that individual in the grave is going through all the things that are promised by Allah, it's just we cannot see.




    May Allah save us from the punishment of the grave and hellfire. Ameen!





    EDIT: Im under the impression some members think i wrote this lol i didnt, its from www.ISLAMCAN.com, mashAllah great stuff there
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    Thats so tru akhee, unfortunately, not many people give much thought to the punishment in the grave. Ameen to the Du'a.

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    But we cant see it ?!

    “Indeed the patient will be given their reward without account.” :love:
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    Re: But we cant see it ?!

    Kinda on topic I was reading that it's haraam when women vists graves is that true?
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    Re: But we cant see it ?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Ahlaam View Post
    It's been six years!

    Yet the topic is still relevant.
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    Re: But we cant see it ?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by marina28 View Post
    Kinda on topic I was reading that it's haraam when women vists graves is that true?
    No its not true, Aisha radhiallahu anha use to visit the graves.

    So long as a sister observes hijaab its permitted according to the hanafi madhab.

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    "May Allah give you strength to bear your trials. Know that Allah is with the patient, and loves those who are content with His Decrees. In the Hanafi school, it is permitted for women to visit the grave, as long as they are properly dressed, and ensure that there is no undue intermixing with non-mahram men, and that they do not behave inappropriately, such as wailing.

    In the Fatawa al-Hindiyya, considered one of the foremost references for fatwa in the Hanafi school, it says,

    "The scholars differed about women visiting graves. al-Sarakhsi (Allah have mercy on him) said that the soundest position is that it is not wrong." (5: 350)

    In al-Sarakhsi's own al-Mabsut, he says,

    "The soundest opinion in our school is that the dispensation (to visit graves) is present for both men and women, because it has been related that `A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) used to visit the grave of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) at all times, and that when she went on Hajj she visited the grave of her brother Abd al-Rahman (Allah be pleased with him)..." (24: 10)

    This is confirmed by Ibn Nujaym in his al-Bahr al-Ra'iq.Ibn Abidin said in his supercommentary on this work,

    al-Ramli said, "As for women, if they visit graves to renew their sorrows, or to cry and wail, as is the customary practice of many, it is not allowed for them to visit graves. This is how the Prophetic hadith that, "Allah has cursed women who visit graves," is understood. As for if they visit for contemplation, compassion, and seeking baraka by visiting the graves of the righteous, then it is not wrong if they are elderly. It is disliked if they are young [f: and there is fear of fitna from their attending....] (Ibn Abidin, Minhat al-Khaliq Hashiyat al-Bahr al-Ra'iq, 2: 210)

    Among that which shows that women's visiting graves is not unlawful is the hadith narrated by Anas (Allah be pleased with him) that, "The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) passed by a woman who was crying by a grave. He said, 'Fear Allah and be patient.'" (Reported by Bukhari and Muslim) The permissibility is understood, as the fuqaha tell us because he did not forbid her from visiting the grave, and had it been unlawful it would have been obligatory for the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) to forbid her.

    And Allah knows best.

    Wassalam,
    Faraz Rabbani."
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    Re: But we cant see it ?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin View Post
    It's been six years!

    Yet the topic is still relevant.
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    But agreed that it's still relevant. Good thread.
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    JazakAllah Khair.

    Someone I know just passed away yesterday. Inna lilahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon

    Since then I have been thinking about this and Alhamdulillah, the thread has helped. JazakAllah Khair.
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    Thank you for being so helpful
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    My worked after all
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