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    Drinking a moderate amount of alcohol protects against the development of gallstones, UK researchers say.

    Consuming two units a day cuts the chance of developing gallstones by a third, analysis of data from 25,000 men and women showed.
    Gallstones are very common but symptoms and complications are only seen in three in 10 cases.

    Delegates at a US conference heard that alcohol reduces cholesterol in the bile from which gallstones form.

    The researchers used data from a large study set up to look at the link between diet and cancer in men and women in the 45-74 age range.

    Alcohol intake was compared with the risk of developing symptomatic gallstones over a 10-year period.

    Those who did develop the condition were an average of 62 years old and more than two-thirds were women.

    They calculated that those in the highest alcohol group had a 32% lower risk than those who drank no or little alcohol.

    For every unit of alcohol extra drunk per week, the risk of gallstones fell by 3%.

    The researchers said it had been suggested that alcohol might reduce gallstones through its effects on cholesterol but the magnitude of the effect had not been calculated.

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    Gallstones form in the gallbladder from bile and are generally made up of hardened cholesterol.

    It is thought that around one in three women and one in six men get gallstones at some point in their life but they are more common in older adults.

    Other factors which increase the chances of them forming include pregnancy, obesity, rapid weight loss and some medications.

    start quote rb 1 - Alcohol reduces gallstone riskModerate alcohol below recommended limits is associated with good health end quote rb 1 - Alcohol reduces gallstone risk
    Professor Chris Hawkey, British Society of Gastroenterology

    Study leader Dr Paul Banim, a clinical lecturer at the University of East Anglia and a specialist registrar in gastroenterology, said alcohol was known to increase levels of "good" HDL cholesterol which was also known to be protective against cardiovascular disease and which could alter the composition of cholesterol in the bile.

    He said excessive alcohol intake can cause health problems but quantifying how much alcohol reduces the risk of gallstone development allows doctors to offer specific guidance.

    His colleague Dr Andrew Hart, a senior lecturer in gastroenterology, said the findings boosted their understanding of how gallstones formed.

    "Once we examine all the factors related to their development in our study in the UK, including diet, exercise, body weight and alcohol intake, we can develop a precise understanding of what causes gallstones and how to prevent them."

    Professor Chris Hawkey, president of the British Society of Gastroenterology, said the study was interesting but should be interpreted with caution because it only measured an association.

    "Nevertheless, previous research has found similar findings and it seems likely to be a real effect.

    "The University of East Anglia are producing interesting data on consumption of particular foods and alcohol - for example a recent study from that unit suggests that oily fish may protect against ulcerative colitis.

    "Moderate alcohol below recommended limits is associated with good health. But alcohol is addictive and drinkers must be careful not to escalate their intake."

    The findings were presented at the Digestive Disease Week annual meeting in Chicago.

    COMPLICATIONS OF GALLSTONES

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    If you are wondering why I have posted this, then you should know that I seek only to confirm that which the creator himself has told us when he says:

    يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ ۖ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَا أَكْبَرُ مِنْ نَفْعِهِمَا

    the meaning of which is:
    They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling.Say: "In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit." (Surah Al-Baqarah:219)
    SubhaanAllah! Allah subhaanahu wa ta'aala himself has told us that in the intoxicants there is some benefit but in his infinite wisdom he has made it unlawful for us for the sin of them is greater than their benefit.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    vinegar should help with gallstones too.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    vinegar should help with gallstones too.
    JazakAllah Khayr. That's a good point. I have not found any benefit that can be obtained from drinking intoxicants that cannot be obtained using other methods.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    Alhamdulillah for Vinegar.
    Can someone take me over why it's not haraam?
    Given it's origins?
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sayf Udeen View Post
    Alhamdulillah for Vinegar.
    Can someone take me over why it's not haraam?
    Given it's origins?
    Does it make you drunk?
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    No.
    But is it not haraam to handle alcohol? Someone has to make the alcohol/handle it in the first place to get Vinegar.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sayf Udeen View Post
    No.
    But is it not haraam to handle alcohol? Someone has to make the alcohol/handle it in the first place to get Vinegar.
    I'm not a scholar brother, but my understanding is the Qur'an only refers to and prohibits Khamr which is wine due to it's intoxicating effect. The two words alcohol and intoxicants are often used interchangeably but only alcohol in it's intoxicating form (Khamr) is prohibited but just alcohol as a substance in and of itself is not. I'm not a chemistry expert, but I don't think the handling of Khamr is necessary for the production of vinegar but only alcohol as a substance which does not intoxicate is used.

    This is what I have understood of the issue and I could be wrong and if so I am open to correction. And Allah knows best.

    Interestingly, the word that we use in English (alcohol) actually comes from an arabic word. So do other words such as Alkali and Alchemy but I digress...
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Uthmān View Post
    JazakAllah Khayr. That's a good point. I have not found any benefit that can be obtained from drinking intoxicants that cannot be obtained using other methods.
    Well, it feels special, the way drinking vinegar doesn't.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    Well, it feels special, the way drinking vinegar doesn't.
    There are other ways to feel special without drinking alcoholic beverages...
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    Well, it feels special, the way drinking vinegar doesn't.
    Jannah is special-er.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    vinegar should help with gallstones too.
    Yeah... it dissolves them or something like that?
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Uthmān View Post
    I'm not a scholar brother, but my understanding is the Qur'an only refers to and prohibits Khamr which is wine due to it's intoxicating effect. The two words alcohol and intoxicants are often used interchangeably but only alcohol in it's intoxicating form (Khamr) is prohibited but just alcohol as a substance in and of itself is not. I'm not a chemistry expert, but I don't think the handling of Khamr is necessary for the production of vinegar but only alcohol as a substance which does not intoxicate is used
    what do you mean?
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    what do you mean?
    Do you know how vinegar is made?
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Uthmān View Post
    Do you know how vinegar is made?
    I know how the ethanoic acide is made. From ethanol, so technically vinegar at some point of tis live is intoxicating, though nobody drinks it ebcause its meant to become vinegar.
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    We need a scholar man :X
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    We need a scholar man :X
    Would a student do? hahaha

    Yes, natural vinegar is made from alcohol. There is no harm in doing that or working with alcohol. All scholars have said that handling ethanol and alcohol used in hospitals or using corrector fluid and other liquids that contain alcohol-based thinners or while preparing vinegar are no problem.

    Additionally, I was told a story in a lecture that a Sahabi brought the prophet -pbuh- once vineger that was made from wine, and the prophet made sure it turned completely into vineger (I think smelling), and then he used it in his food. That was after Israa And Miraj when intoxicating agents were forbidden.

    A gentle point though that intoxicating agents, whether fluid or otherwise, is any material that you take to cause yourself to be "high". That includes drugs whether sniffed powder, smoked doobies, or injected serums. This is based on the prophet's hadith "whatever a lot of would intoxicate you, then a little of it is haraam." None of those however is haraam if they're used in medicinal capacity under the supervision of doctor and there is no equal substitute.

    And God knows best.

    An interesting point is that there is a myth in that Hanafi allow the use of wine in cooking! That is not true, they however allow COOKED grape and date juice if it starts turning and it's not yet strong enough to intoxicate but may contain alcoholic agent, before it becomes full strength wine, while the other three forbid it from the moment a hint of turning begins.
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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

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    Jannah is special-er.

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    Re: Alcohol reduces gallstone risk

    JazakAllah Khayr brother Sampharo.
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