I found interesting more. Only for Muslims members. Please no trolls from Non-Muslims attacking.
Outrageous, it was a weak attempt to marginalize Islam. Every Muslims know basics of Islam.
In fact, women cannot lead prayer in the front.
Women and men can't be mixed together side by side.
Women when praying should cover her body fully at least.
You cannot wear boots when praying.
Brothers and Sisters, can you tell us what's wrong with these in your point of views? Have you seen this somewhere (probably in UK I assume), we could write letters to Muslim department for this silly matters.
Last edited by Re.TiReD; 11-22-2009 at 10:05 PM.
Reason: Deleted pics of uncovered women
"When the Qur'an is read, Listen to it with attention, And hold your peace: That ye may receive Mercy" ~ 7:204
"Then do ye remember Me; I will remember You. Be grateful to Me, And reject not Faith. ~ 2:152
Wait didn't Ume Warqa lead mixed prayers? I'm confused.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I remember this woman in the middle with no Hijab (she is trying to blasphamy on Islam for complaining why men and women are not mixed together in Mosque just like Church), I couldn't find her name. I am certain sure, she is the one and received attention from media. ----- By the way, I FOUND HER NAME: Asra Nomani. ... Look up her history. Yes, bashing on Islam.
Imam rejected her a few times. She is lack of knowledges in Islam and she think women are degraded and less respected in Islam which is absolutely not true.
It is shame (fake) Muslims followers to do something like this. Are you sure ---Cathedral of St John The Divine, New York??
Last edited by Humbler_359; 11-18-2009 at 06:45 PM.
"When the Qur'an is read, Listen to it with attention, And hold your peace: That ye may receive Mercy" ~ 7:204
"Then do ye remember Me; I will remember You. Be grateful to Me, And reject not Faith. ~ 2:152
It actually made me physically sick watching the women and men mixed i swear whats wrong with people and why is a woman leading the prayer. imagine what the prophet mohammad pbuh would do if he saw this
First woman to lead Muslim prayers angers traditionalists
Amina Wadud leads men and women in prayer in March 2005 at the Cathedral of St John the Divine in New York
Islamic history will be made in the heart of Oxford today when a woman Muslim scholar leads Friday prayers and delivers the khutba, or sermon, for the first time in Britain.
Professor Amina Wadud, visiting scholar at the Starr King School of the Ministry, Berkeley, California, received death threats after she led a service in New York three years ago. That event was held at an Anglican church after mosques refused to host it.
At 1pm today on Oxford's Banbury Road, Ms Wadud will deliver a sermon at the start of a conference on Islam and feminism at the University's Wolfson College. Organised by the Muslim Educational Centre Oxford (Meco), the event has attracted fierce criticism from traditionalists, who claim that the Koran insists on men leading prayers.
Police will be on hand to ensure protests do not spill over into violence.
Taj Hargey, a veteran of anti-apartheid struggles in South Africa currently engaged in post-doctoral research at Wolfson College, is Meco's chairman. "Our situation is simple," Mr Hargey said. "The golden rule of the Koran is that whatever is not expressly prohibited is permitted.
"Literalists interpret the Hadith [the sayings of Prophet Muhammad] as implying a woman should never lead a community. But even within the Hadith there is a woman called Umm Waraqa whom the Prophet allowed to lead prayers in a household and to teach her neighbour. Though it recognises biological differences between men and women, the Koran absolutely specifies gender egalitarianism.
"The people opposing this are the Wahhabi, Deobandi; misogynistic segments of Islam. They don't believe in the innate equality of men and women." (??-lie)
Born in 1952 to a Methodist father and a mother of Muslim heritage in Maryland, Ms Wadud, who has written books on the Koran and memorised most of it, first delivered a Friday sermon in Cape Town, South Africa, in August 1994. Seen as a pioneering feminist, her last book, Inside The Gender Jihad: Women's Reform In Islam (2006) was partly an experiment in autobiography, and included details of the threats to her life in New York.
That sermon, delivered to about 100 men and women, led to a concerted attempt by some Muslim scholars to have her removed from the academic position she then held at Virginia Commonwealth University.
Today, she will be speaking on justice to several hundred men and women, and her sermon having a mixed audience has angered Conservative members of the Muslim community. Mokh-tar Badri, vice-president of the Muslim Association of Britain, said: "With all respect to sister Amina, prayer is something we perform in accordance to the teachings of our Lord. It has nothing to do with the position of women in society. It is not to degrade them. This is something divine, not human. We do it the way it has been ordained by God. Women can lead prayers before other women but before a congregation of men and women, a man must lead.
"This is not confined to Islam. Catholics don't appreciate female priests."
Last week, Inayat Bunglawala of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "We have no dealings with Taj Hargey. His organisation has no affiliation with mainstream groups in this country."
Meco has 200 supporters. Its chairman is no stranger to controversy. In 1983, Mr Hargey was jailed in his native Cape Town for anti-apartheid protests.
"Look at what [suffragette] Emmeline Pankhurst did," he said. "People told her she was mad but now we worship her. In time people will say similar things about Amina Wadud."
A protestor and a worshipper talk things out following the prayer. His sign said "Amina Wadud is not a Muslim according to the Qur'an and Sunnah
Outside, Mohammed Nussrah, a 21-year-old Brooklyn resident had been protesting with five or six other peers, claiming that Wadud and the congregants had gone against the teachings of Islam.
"She is violating Islamic law…This woman here, is just changing that whole concept. She says its time to reform Islam; that's the name of the group, they're called progressive Muslims," he ranted. "As Muslims, we are followers of God, we hear and we obey. Whatever the Qur'an says, we take it with no questions, we have no opinions here; we have no comments; we have no suggestions. We just hear and we obey. And we know for sure in Islam, women cannot lead men in prayer. And what's she doing here today, she's violated a law which has been going on for more than 1400 years. Now, she can repent or she'll definitely burn in hell."
Last edited by Humbler_359; 11-18-2009 at 06:49 PM.
"When the Qur'an is read, Listen to it with attention, And hold your peace: That ye may receive Mercy" ~ 7:204
"Then do ye remember Me; I will remember You. Be grateful to Me, And reject not Faith. ~ 2:152
I've actually seen this on news and my mouth was like open wide, I couldn't believe my eyes, this is just totally...totally wrong. This is not islam at all.
They are pure feminists.
And as for the onewho fears standing in front of His Lord and restrainsthe soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]
Wait didn't Ume Warqa lead mixed prayers? I'm confused.
That was a special case.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) allowed Ummu Waraqah lead mixed prayer with one old man and one slave man in her house once.
That was the first time and the last time Prophet Muhammad (saw) allowed a woman lead mixed prayer. And this permission is not valid for other women, and cannot becomes a reason for women to lead mixed prayer.
is this some stupid attempt by some Muslims to say "oh look we aren't backwards see? " ridiculous.
if she really cared about women and their prayer, then she would care that their awrahs aren't properly covered for prayer, and hence their prayer is rendered invalid. and would educate them about that
In fact, women cannot lead prayer in the front.
for men, no. but for other women, yes.
2 – A woman leading women in prayer. It is mustahabb for women to pray together (in jamaa’ah) when they get together in a place. One of them should lead the others, but she should stand with them in the middle of the row. It is permissible and correct for a woman to lead other women in prayer.
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... Look up her history. Yes, bashing on Islam.
whats wrong with people and why is a woman leading the prayer. imagine what the prophet mohammad pbuh would do if he saw this
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