brothers and sisters.
here is my problem: i am excessive. in practiacally everything.
in prayer. its not the amount of prayers i pray, its what i do during them, i take too long. and its not becaue of khusoo.' for example, i think to myself, did i do this, or that. did i perform 2 sajads or one. hmm..let me think, i say to myself 'well i dont remember sitting between them, so that means, that i have to repaet my prayer. sometimes, i even repeat my prayer up to four times. and it really bugs me, because when i feel that physically got it right, i feel that spitirtually, its all wrong.
in eating: i usually want to know what the numbers of additives an dpreservitives are. most things i dont eat if im not, but simple things, such as bread, etc.
so basically, a long story short, im not exactly sure how to strike a balance. its really bugging me. I know thats its from shaytaan. i try to ignore it, sometimes when i do, its feels that i have fallen short of something. i always intend, for example, in my prayers, and try to mentally prepare myself to do opposite, but when i get to whatever i need to do, its like i never even prepared myself.
jazakallahu khair.
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I suggest reciting the surahs in your prayer out loud... that will keep you focused on your salaah and prevent your mind from wondering all over the place as well as result in less confusion.
Another way you can solve this problem is by dedicating surahs to each rakaah.... this should be only temporary as to help you in your current situation..
For example... Isha prayer... Read out loud the first two (if not at masjid) and rest silently...
dedicate 1st surah to 1st rakah.. 2nd surah to 2nd rakaah...etc.. 4th... to complete your isha prayer. This way you will always know what rakaah your own by the last surah you recited.
And in sujood.. you can add something else after subhanarabiyallalah. like.. "subhanakallahuma rabana allahuma igfirlee" sorry for mistakes... cant spell it..
this way you will know you did 1st sujood.. and 2nd sujood will be normal.
I would advise consulting a doctor about this, I dont think I can help you anymore Brother Insha' Allah inform a doctor, Sorry.
Your In my du'aas, May Allah ease your difficultys
Peace
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This is from another post, so some things might not relate to you. But its referring to the waswasa (satanic whispers) so it might be of some help insha'Allaah.
jazak Allaah khayr for explaining your situation, because the cure to ignorance is asking, as our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) said.
I just want you to know that what you are experiencing now is quite common to happen to the believer (the mu'min) and it is a sign of faith. In islam, its called waswasa (the whisperings of satan) and it is one of the ways shaytan will try to put someone off the right path.
Its also important to remember that one of the main reasons you feel weak is because you believe in Allaah, but you don't have any evidence in your mind to prove those satanic thoughts wrong. And the only cure to that is by reading more and more from the Qur'an and Sunnah to clear the misconceptions that satan puts in your mind. This way, the more evidence you have - the more stronger a believer you will become insha'Allaah, and the more evidence you will have to drive away them satanic thoughts insha'Allaah.
We advise you not to pay any attention to these whispers, and to ignore them, and to do the opposite of what they are calling you to do. For these whispers (waswaas) come from the Shaytaan to cause grief to those who believe. The best way to deal with them is to remember Allaah a great deal (dhikr), to seek refuge with Allaah from the accursed Shaytaan [by saying: a`udhu billahi mina ash-shaytani ar-rajim; I seek refuge and protection in Allah from Satan, the accursed).], to keep away from sins and wrong actions which are the means by which Iblees gains control over the sons of Adam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, he [the Shaytaan] has no power over those who believe and put their trust only in their Lord (Allaah)”
[al-Nahl 16:99]
It is worth quoting here what Ibn Hajar al-Haythami (may Allaah have mercy on him) said about dealing with waswasah in his book al-Fataawa al-Fiqhiyyah al-Kubra, 1/149. This is what he said:
“He was asked about the problem of waswasah (insinuating whispers from the Shaytaan), and whether there is a remedy for it.
He replied by saying that there is an effective remedy for it, which is to ignore them completely, no matter how frequently they may come to mind. When these whispers are ignored, they do not become established, rather they go away after a short time, as many people have experienced. But for those who pay attention to them and act upon them, they increase until they make him like one who is insane or even worse, as we see among many of those who have suffered from them and paid attention to them and to the devil whose task it is to insinuate these whispers, whom the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned us against when he said, “Beware the whispers with regard to water (i.e., wudoo’) which is caused by a devil called al-Walhaan” – because that causes a person to go to extremes with regard to doing wudoo’, as was explained in Sharh Mishkaat al-Anwaar.
In al-Saheehayn there is a report which supports what has been mentioned above, which is that whoever suffers from waswaas should seek refuge with Allaah and turn away from the waswaas. So think about this effective remedy which was taught by the one who does not speak of his own whims and desires to his ummah, and understand that whoever is deprived of this is deprived of all goodness, because waswasah comes from the Shaytaan, according to scholarly consensus, and the accursed one (the Shaytaan) has no other desire than to make the believers go astray, make them confused, make their life a misery, cause them distress to the extent that they leave Islam without realizing it.
“Surely, Shaytaan (Satan) is an enemy to you, so take (treat) him as an enemy”
[Faatir 35:6 – interpretation of the meaning]
According to another hadeeth, the one who suffers from waswasah should say, “Aamantu Billaahi wa bi rusulihi (I believe in Allaah and in His Messengers).” Undoubtedly, whoever thinks of the paths of the Messengers of Allaah, especially our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will find that his path and his law is easy and clear, with no hardship in it.
“… and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship”
[al-Hajj 22:78 – interpretation of the meaning]
Whoever ponders this and believes in it sincerely, the problem of waswasah and listening to the Shaytaan will go away. In the book of Ibn al-Sunni it is narrated via ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), “Whoever suffers from this waswaas, let him say ‘Aamantu Billaahi wa bi rusulihi (I believe in Allaah and in His Messengers)’, three times, and it will go away from him.”
Al-‘Izz ibn ‘Abd al-Salaam and others mentioned something similar to the above. They said: the treatment for waswasah is to believe that this is an idea from the Shaytaan and that Iblees is the one who is bringing these thoughts to his mind, and he should strive to fight him. Then he will have the reward of the mujaahid, because he is fighting the enemy of Allaah. If he does that, then the Shaytaan will flee from him. This is what mankind has been tested with from the beginning of time, and Allaah has given him (Iblees) some power over man as a test for him, so that Allaah may show the truth to be true and falsehood to be false, even though the disbelievers may hate that.
In Muslim, hadeeth no. 2203, it is narrated that ‘Uthmaan ibn Abi’l-‘Aas said: “The Shaytaan was interfering with my prayer and recitation of Qur’aan. He [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ] said: ‘That is a devil called Khanzab, so seek refuge with Allaah from him and spit drily to your left three times.’ I did that, and Allaah took him away from me.”
This hadeeth proves the point we are making, which is that waswasah can only overpower the one who is ignorant and confused and does not know what’s what. But the one who has knowledge and understanding will the Sunnah and keep away from bid’ah. The worst of the innovators are those who follow waswaas, hence Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that his shaykh al-Rabee’ – who was the imam of the people of his time – was the fastest of the people in relieving himself and doing wudoo’.
Ibn Hurmuz used to be slow in relieving himself and in doing wudoo’, and he used to say “I have a problem, do not follow my example.”
Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said that one of the scholars thought it was mustahabb for the one who was affected by waswasah with regard to his wudoo or prayer to say Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah, for when the Shaytaan hears dhikr (remembrance of Allaah) he slinks away, and Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah is the best of dhikr, and the most effective remedy for warding off waswasah is to remember Allaah a great deal.
We ask Allaah to take away the waswasah that you are suffering and to increase us and you in faith, righteousness and piety. Ameen.
You may feel afraid that you're sinful for this act, even though its not your fault. But alhamdulillah (praise be to Allaah Almighty) - our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“Allaah has forgiven for my ummah that which is whispered to them and which crosses their minds, so long as they do not act upon it or speak of it.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6664; Muslim, 127)
Allaah Almighty says in the Qur'an:
We send down (stage by stage) in the Qur'an that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss. (17:82)
All of them are authentic and enjoyable masha'Allaah, and it may make it easier to get a deeper understanding of islam so you can beat those evil thoughts because the cure to ignorance is knowledge.
When a person has faith, then shaytan will keep whispering to the person to try to distract them from the siraat-ul mustaqeem (the straight path) . So keep remembering Allaah, and keep praising Allaah (i.e. subhan Allaah, alhamdulillah, Allaahu akbar, La illaah illallaah etc.)
Whenever you pray 5 daily prayers, then concentrate on what you say, because within surah fatiha - you recite 'ikhdinas-siraat-al mustaqeem' (guide us to the straight path.) - and if you're sincere in this, Allaah Almighty will keep you on the straight path insha'Allaah, because you pray this surah about 17times a day [minimum] (when you pray your 5 daily salaah/prayers.)
If you remember Allaah Almighty at times of ease, Allaah will remember you at times of hardship insha'Allaah.
brothers and sisters.
here is my problem: i am excessive. in practiacally everything.
in prayer. its not the amount of prayers i pray, its what i do during them, i take too long. and its not becaue of khusoo.' for example, i think to myself, did i do this, or that. did i perform 2 sajads or one. hmm..let me think, i say to myself 'well i dont remember sitting between them, so that means, that i have to repaet my prayer. sometimes, i even repeat my prayer up to four times. and it really bugs me, because when i feel that physically got it right, i feel that spitirtually, its all wrong.
in eating: i usually want to know what the numbers of additives an dpreservitives are. most things i dont eat if im not, but simple things, such as bread, etc.
so basically, a long story short, im not exactly sure how to strike a balance. its really bugging me. I know thats its from shaytaan. i try to ignore it, sometimes when i do, its feels that i have fallen short of something. i always intend, for example, in my prayers, and try to mentally prepare myself to do opposite, but when i get to whatever i need to do, its like i never even prepared myself.
jazakallahu khair.
You should not consider yourself that you alone are having problems in having khusooh in salaah. All Muslims try there level best(ofcourse, those who pray)that should not think "here and there" during their salaah. May Allah Almighty help you, and all the muslims. Ameen
I found a hadith related to the same thing.
Hazrat Uthman bin Abul Aas (Razi Allahu anho) said: Ya RasulAllah (Sallallaho alaihay wa aalaihee wa sallam) the devil interferes between me and my prayer, and also causes doubt in my recitation. The Prophet (Sallallaho alaihay wa aalaihee wa sallam) said: The name of this devil is Khanzab, when you feel his temptation, then (during the prayer) say taooz (Aaoozo billaahe minashaitan nir rajeem) and spit three times on your left side (on your heart)”.Hazart Uthman (Razi Allahu anho) said :I did so , and Allah made that devil away from me.”
Reported in Ahmad and Muslim
hope that helps inshaAllah
Last edited by learningislam; 08-05-2006 at 06:02 PM.
I suggest reciting the surahs in your prayer out loud... that will keep you focused on your salaah and prevent your mind from wondering all over the place as well as result in less confusion.
Another way you can solve this problem is by dedicating surahs to each rakaah.... this should be only temporary as to help you in your current situation..
For example... Isha prayer... Read out loud the first two (if not at masjid) and rest silently...
dedicate 1st surah to 1st rakah.. 2nd surah to 2nd rakaah...etc.. 4th... to complete your isha prayer. This way you will always know what rakaah your own by the last surah you recited.
And in sujood.. you can add something else after subhanarabiyallalah. like.. "subhanakallahuma rabana allahuma igfirlee" sorry for mistakes... cant spell it..
this way you will know you did 1st sujood.. and 2nd sujood will be normal.
I hope this helps...
May Allah make it easy for you, Inshallah.
W'salaamz,
Hamid
jazakallahu khair brother. that is good advice
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Insha' Allah inform a doctor, Sorry.
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