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    Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

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    Kudos to this man. The reaction is ridiculous and its not even on ground zero. Two blocks away! well down to this man for speaking out against stupidity. Muslims also died in 9/11!
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    cool video cheers...i shouldve found this vid before but it missed my radar

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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    It is amazing to me that they'd fire that alleged Dr. Laura, and Larry king is giving her lessons of why racial slurs are offensive, no where in his list of 'Jews, blacks, gays, Hispanics' did he make mention of Muslims and it is quite clear a joke/slur about any group will not be tolerated, but everything against Muslims is tolerated and encouraged ... I don't even watch the news anymore, although today I read another delightful piece on Al-Jazeera.. entitled Afghanistan the death of empires and reputations and sob7an Allah, for centuries no one could subjugate the afghans.. I am so very proud of them, may Allah swt make them triumphant forever against their enemies.. No one seems to aid any Muslims, especially not other Muslims, let's have a look at Pakistan and Palestine, were it a disaster to any western nation, the despots of the Arab world would be spending money on donations and aid.. but Muslim life comes so cheap these days..

    S/he who has God in their heart has everything.. so let the rest keep their weaponry, soldiery and money, may it drag them straight to hell insha'Allah..

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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    format_quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ View Post
    It is amazing to me that they'd fire that alleged Dr. Laura, and Larry king is giving her lessons of why racial slurs are offensive, no where in his list of 'Jews, blacks, gays, Hispanics' did he make mention of Muslims and it is quite clear a joke/slur about any group will not be tolerated, but everything against Muslims is tolerated and encouraged ... I don't even watch the news anymore, although today I read another delightful piece on Al-Jazeera.. entitled Afghanistan the death of empires and reputations and sob7an Allah, for centuries no one could subjugate the afghans.. I am so very proud of them, may Allah swt make them triumphant forever against their enemies.. No one seems to aid any Muslims, especially not other Muslims, let's have a look at Pakistan and Palestine, were it a disaster to any western nation, the despots of the Arab world would be spending money on donations and aid.. but Muslim life comes so cheap these days..

    S/he who has God in their heart has everything.. so let the rest keep their weaponry, soldiery and money, may it drag them straight to hell insha'Allah..




    I was reading the amount of money sent to Pakistan, I am so shocked at the Muslim world response.

    I hate it when people say "muslim/Islam is not a race, it is a religion" excuse is getting pathetic and tiresome.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    This is what I found in responses to Pakistan:


    Islamic nations snub UN plea to help flood victims
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225906221821

    [ISLAMIC nations are shunning a United Nations appeal for the worsening Pakistan floods, amid tensions with President Zardari.

    Western countries have rallied to Pakistan's aid, with the US and Britain the leading donors in the drive to raise $US460 million in the first 90 days. Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, is expected to attend a special meeting of the UN General Assembly on Thursday to show solidarity with Pakistan, diplomats said.

    Not a single Islamic nation appeared yesterday on the UN's latest list of donors, despite efforts to reach out to them.

    The US had pledged $US62million, followed by Britain with $US26 million, bringing current commitments to $US204million - less than half of the UN's goal.

    Japan came third with $US13 million, followed by lesser pledges from 18 other countries. The World Bank promised a $US900 million loan.

    With 20 million people affected by the floods, the disaster has touched the lives of more people than the Haiti earthquake earlier this year, the 2005 Kashmir earthquake, and the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami. UN officials lament, however, that the aid response is falling short. "The response so far has been strong but we do need for it to be sustained and continue," said Nicholas Reader, a spokesman for the UN's humanitarian co-ordinator.

    Mr Reader noted that Islamic nations such as Saudi Arabia had traditionally given aid directly to Pakistan rather than through the UN. "The money we track is ... given to the multilateral process and given through UN appeals," he said. "It does not track the money that is given bilaterally."

    Analysts blamed Riyadh's strained relations with President Zardari for the apparent indifference of the oil-rich Saudi Government. "King Abdullah has never liked Mr Zardari, for various reasons," said a former Pakistani diplomat.

    "One is Mr Zardari's closeness to the Americans. His being a Shia may also be a factor."

    Shah Mahmood Qureshi, Pakistan's Foreign Minister, has asked the Organisation of the Islamic Conference to convene a special session to help his country.

    Turkey and Kuwait have pledged $US5million each and Malaysia has offered $US1 million. Saudi Arabia has reportedly offered $US100million, but has so far sent only one aircraft with relief goods. The United Arab Emirates has dispatched six helicopters.

    Anti-government protests broke out yesterday in many areas of Pakistan affected by floods as the UN warned that 3.5 million children were at risk from cholera and other diseases because the aid effort was inadequate.

    Demonstrators blocked a road and attacked vehicles in Sukkur in President Zardari's home province of Sindh, as raging waters marooned dozens more villages. Protests were also reported in Punjab province, where millions of people are still without food, clean drinking water, shelter and proper medical help.]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Pakistan_floods

    "Response by national governments

    * AfghanistanAfghanistan finance minister Hazrat Omar Zakhailwal handed a cheque worth $1 million to Pakistani ambassador Mohammad Sadiq at the end of a press conference in Afghan capital Kabul.[47]

    * Australia Australia announced a A$10 million aid-package,[48] as well as committing two C17 Globemaster aircraft to deliver emergency supplies and to assist relief efforts.[49]

    * Azerbaijan Azerbaijan embassy in Pakistan transferred its two-days’ salary worth around $2,000 to relief fund.[50] The country will also give US$1 million financial assistance for helping the victims and eliminate the aftermath of the disaster.[51][52][53]

    * Brazil Brazil donated US$ 0.7 million through World Food Programme or life-saving assistance to the affected.[54]

    * Canada Canada announced that it would donate $2 million worth of emergency aid. $750,000 are expected to be donated to the ICRC for distribution of shelter-materials and water, sanitation and health-services, while the remainder goes to the WFP to provide much-needed food-assistance. On August 14 the Canadian government announced an additional $32 million dollars in aid.[55]

    * People's Republic of China China initially announced that it would provide emergency aid worth 10 million yuan (approx. US$ 1.48 million ) to help the flood-victims. China was one of the first countries providing immediate aid to Pakistan in the aftermath of the floods. The People's Liberation Army donated another 10 million yuan to Pakistan.[citation needed] The Chinese Red Cross has also given US $50,000 in cash to Pakistan.[56][57] The Chinese ambassador to Pakistan traveled to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and expressed his condolences to those affected by the tragedy.[58][59] On August 13, China announced another emergency humanitarian aid worth 50 million yuan (US$7.35 million) bringing the total official Chinese relief aid to more than 70 million yuan to the flood-affected Pakistani people.[60]

    * Denmark Denmark has donated 60 million DKK. ($10 million)[61]

    * European Union European Union released 10 million euros to help Pakistan's flood victims on 11 August, as part of emergency aid to flood-stricken country.[62]

    * Finland Finland government donated 1.2 million euros for humanitarian assistance to the flood victims. 600,000 euros were channeled through the World Health Organization, 400,000 euros through the UNHCR and 200,000 euros through Finn Church Aid.[63][64]

    * Germany Germany initially committed 1 million euros for the victims, which was further increased to 2 million euros on 6 August.[65] On 12 August, Germany announced a $13 million aid package.[66]

    * Hong Kong Hong Kong has donated HK$ 3 million to World Vision for a relief project for flood victims in Pakistan.[67]

    * India India offered on 13 August US$ 6.8 million for provision of relief material for the victims of the massive floods.[68][69]

    * Iran Iran has committed over 400 tonnes of relief goods so far as of 14 August 2010 out of which 180 tonnes have already been delivered by the Iranian transport aircrafts. These goods include tents, floorings, clothes, canned food, bread and medical supplies. Iranian red crescent society has also been on the ground along with Pakistan red crescent society as a part of its ongoing relief operation inside Pakistan to more than 100,000 flood vicitms. In addition to the Iranian government help Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani has announced that one third of collected Khums will be donated to Pakistan for humanitarian assistance.[70][71][72][73][74][75][76][77] Iran's chamber of commerce also donated US $1 million to the flood affectees.[78] Iran has also offered to setup field hospitals and community centers for flood victims in Pakistan.[79]

    * Japan Japan provided US$ 0.23 million for emergency relief goods, while additional assistance of up to US$3 million has been committed for the disaster aftermath.

    * Kuwait Kuwait has also donated US $5 million to victims of the severe floods in Pakistan, according to Kuwait Red Crescent Society (KRCS).[80]

    * Malaysia Malaysia has also announced aid of $1 million to help people in flood-hit Pakistan.[81]

    * Nepal Nepal cabinet provided cash assistance of Rs 10 million for flood victims in Pakistan.[82]

    * Nigeria Nigeria also assisted Pakistan by donating US$ 1 million.[83]

    * Norway Norway facilitated relief operation by providing NOK 30 million. NOK 9 million were given to UN Central Emergency Response Fund, and NOK 21 million were allocated to UNICEF, Pakistan Emergency Response Fund (ERF), and Pakistan Red Crescent Society[84]

    * Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia released a statement announcing the establishment of an air-bridge to ferry relief-supplies to Pakistan. In total Saudi Arabia has allocated US $100 million for the relief-operation.[85]

    * Sri Lanka Sri Lanka dispatched 18 metric tons of relief goods worth approx US$ 3 million to Pakistan on a Sri Lankan Air Force C-130.[86][87][88] The Health Ministry will also send will be in the 15 member special medical team to Pakistan.[89]

    * Syria Syria announced that it would send 35 tonnes of foodstuffs, medical supplies, medicines and many other necessary materials to help flood victims[90]

    * Turkey Turkey has donated US$ 5 million to Pakistan, in addition to 115 tonnes of humanitarian aid consisting of food packages, blankets, sleeping bags and beds delivered to Pakistan Red Crescent Society.[91][92]

    * United Kingdom United Kingdom has dispatched a Royal Air Force C17 aircraft which is the RAF's largest transport aircraft capable of carrying almost 74,000 kg of freight and 138 personnel over distances up to 4,500 nautical miles (8,300 km). The C17 has already taken a load of 500 tents to Islamabad, where they will be driven to Peshawar to help provide shelter for people driven from their homes by the flooding.[93] Former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has also acknowledged the slow international response and urged British public to donate generously.[94] British monarch, Queen Elizabeth II has made a personal donation to the relief effort for flood victims in Pakistan, the Queen gave an undisclosed amount via the. British Red Cross.[95] Additionally, the UK government "has now earmarked up to £31.3 million for the relief and recovery effort." [96] Nick Clegg said that the international response had been "absolutely pitiful."[97]

    * United States The United States has been at the forefront of the relief effort.[98] United States stated that it would provide 56,000 ready meals on August 1 and 2, twelve temporary bridges and two water-filtration-plants to help the flood-victims as part of a US$10 million aid-pledge.[99] Commenting on the floods, the United States Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, stated, "The Pakistani people are friends and partners, and the United States is standing with them as the tragic human toll mounts from flooding in northwest Pakistan."[100] Hillary Clinton personally donated $10 for flood-relief in an effort to encourage people to donate, no matter how small the amount.[101] On 10 August, US announced another $20 million to provide relief for the affected,[102] taking the flood related aid from United States to US$ 55 million.[103] On 11 August, US increased its assistance for flood-ravaged Pakistan to $ 71 million.[104] Additionally, United States initially provided six US Army CH-47 Chinook helicopters from their duty in Afghanistan. On 12 August, it provided two more CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters to assist Pakistan Army in their relief efforts. The two helicopters are first of 19 helicopters that US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has urgently ordered for Pakistan in next few days.[105] Senator John Kerry will also visit Pakistan in order to survey the damage from the disaster, and to raise US public awareness about Pakistani relief needs.[106] On 13 August, US increased its aid to US $84 million as USS Peleliu gets ready to dispatch more helicopters pledged earlier by US Defense Secretary.[107] In addition to this, the United States is providing $3 million to the World Health Organization to expand the capacity of Pakistan's Disease Early Warning System (DEWS) and to establish the first 15 treatment centers for water-borne illness. It is also working with the humanitarian community to spread awareness through radio stations regarding safety precautions against water-borne diseases.[108] On 14 August, further two CH-53E Super Stallion and a MH-53E Sea Dragon arrived in Pakistan to work with Pakistan military in flood-affected areas.[109]

    * World Bank provided US$ 1.3 million to Pakistani government for relief work.[110] The bank has additionally approved a loan of US$ 900 million for medium and long term reconstruction.[111]

    * International Monetary Fund (IMF) has also offered to discuss how to help Pakistan manage the economic impact of the floods.[112]

    [edit] Response by non-governmental organizations

    * Disasters Emergency Committee, an umbrella group of 13 UK charities reports that as of 14 August its flood-relief-appeal has so far raised £12 million and that its member agencies have distributed aid to more than 600,000 people.[113]

    * Oxfam has currently providing clean water and hot meals to over 180,000 people. In total, Oxfam aims to reach around 900,000 people with clean water, sanitation kits and hygiene supplies.[114]

    * Save the Children are using helicopters, donkeys and boats to deliver doctors and medical supplies to families cut off by the water. They've sent a medical team and medicines in on donkeys in Allai and treated more than one thousand patients currently and plan to distribute 800 shelter kits, including tarpaulins, jerry cans and plastic glasses, to flood-affected families.[115]

    * International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement Red Cross has dispatched food and shelter items for more than 100,000 people for distribution by Pakistan Red Crescent volunteers. In addition, medicines and medical supplies have been sent to Paroa Hospital in Dera Ismail Khan and to Bannu.[116]

    * Humanity First, in collaboration with NCHD has dispatched over 500 tents as well as mattresses, blankets, floor mats, buckets and shoes. 350 water survival boxes have been provided in collaboration with the British Rotary charity WorldWaterWorks Limited. The local team is also preparing packs of non-perishable food to last a month for 1,000 families. The initial response package is for around 10,000 people, but response is expected to rise. Moreover, 3 medical camps have been set up which see 200 patients a day.[117]

    * MERCY Malaysia has setup two clinics in the districts of Nowshera and Charsadda, each with a local doctor and three medical staff. It also sent a team on 12 August to support the clinics. The NGO donated five units of ultra-filtration water systems worth US$15,000 and donated US$40,000 worth of tents, food and drinking water.[118][119]

    * CARE International has provided water purification tablets, tents, family hygiene kits, kitchen sets, tarpaulins and mosquito nets to thousands of survivors. Mobile and basic healthcare units have provided health services to around 4,500 people.[120]

    * Islamic Relief is distributing 3,570 family hygiene kits in Nowshera and Mardan districts benefitting 24,990 people. Also it is distributing 2,850 household kits (containing mattresses, mosquito nets etc.) and 2,850 kitchen sets to benefit 19,950 people.[121] Pakistani cricket star Shahid Afridi is working with the NGO in raising the aid for the disaster.[122]

    * Muslim Charity has launched £750,000 appeal to help the victims of flood in Pakistan. Muslim Charity targets to benefit 45,000 people through its activities. Muslim Charity is providing food to 25,000 people for the month of Ramadan, clean drinking water to 10,000 people, medical facilities to 10,000 people through its 5 medical camps and shelter to 5,000 people. In its second phase of relief work; Muslim Charity targets to reconstruct 200 house in Pakistan.

    * Concern have helped 18,000 people and 6,400 people in Charsadda district have received emergency packages.[123]

    * UNICEF UNICEF has set up 24 medical camps in the affected areas, benefiting around one million people.[124]

    * United Methodist Church's represenatives are on the ground with a project that within the week will purify more than 3.5 million liters of drinking water and benefit more than 73,000 people a day. The Methodist are also helping to bring food relief and emergency shelter to tens of thousands of Pakistanis affected by the flooding.[125]

    * Pakistan Cricket Board and English Cricket Board are working together to organize a fundraiser exhibition match for the benefit of flood victims.[126][127]

    * World Vision is currently providing clean water and food in Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa province and is treating people at five health clinics. The agency plans to reach 150,000 people during the first 90 days with relief items including water purification packets, hygiene kits, tents, cooking items and food. It also aims to provide cash-for-work activities to 1,000 people, open additional health posts, set up 20 child-friendly spaces and 20 women-friendly spaces to provide a safe and comfortable environment for children and women to interact with peers and receive support. World Vision plans to expand these efforts as floodwaters recede and more communities become accessible.[citation needed]

    * Jama'at-ud-Da'wah stated that it had 2000 workers providing flood-relief.[128]

    * Giving Children Hope will be distributing relief medical supplies and equipment to three medical centers and mobile medical clinics located in Peshawar, Pakistan, the capital of the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province- one of the hardest hit by the flood. These relief supplies will be distributed to those who are living in temporary shelters and those already living in poverty. http://www.gchope.org/flood-in-pakistan.html

    * University of Western Sydney: Professor Janice Reid, Vice-Chancellor and University President, announced to support to the people of Pakistan, the University of Western Sydney will be making a $10,000 donation to the Australian Red Cross. In her appeal, “The UWS community is a compassionate community and, as in similar relief efforts in the past, UWS staff and students have expressed a desire to collectively contribute to the relief effort. Whilst we would like to establish a central fund, advice indicates that it is faster and easier for people to donate directly to the key agencies coordinating aid and relief appeals”. "
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...arabia-pledges

    Pakistan floods: Saudi Arabia pledges $100m -
    Oil-rich country overtakes US as main aid donor as second wave of flooding hits new areas in southern provinces
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10



    I normally don't care all that much for Keith Olberman but this was some really good stuff. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    I heard that new about to be build mosque is run by Sufis. Wallahu 3lam. I dont see any need of spending $100 Million dollars on a masjid when Muslims are dying in Pakistan, Afghanistan and name em. it is a sign of qiyama, where mosques will be decorated and minbars will be elevated. may Allah protect us from this Fitnah.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed M. View Post
    I heard that new about to be build mosque is run by Sufis. Wallahu 3lam. I dont see any need of spending $100 Million dollars on a masjid when Muslims are dying in Pakistan, Afghanistan and name em. it is a sign of qiyama, where mosques will be decorated and minbars will be elevated. may Allah protect us from this Fitnah.
    Agree that so much money need not be spent for the purpose, but it's not "a mosque" that they are building.

    From The Baltimore Sun:
    From the pitched rhetoric of its opponents, though, you'd think a minaret-topped mosque was going to be built right atop the site of the former World Trade Center.

    Instead, Park51, as the proposed building would be called, is envisioned as a community center of about 15 stories which, although it would include a mosque for prayer, would also have a swimming pool, an auditorium and other amenities that make it more akin to a YMCA than a dedicated house of worship. And it wouldn't be built anywhere on Ground Zero itself but two blocks to the north.
    From Time magazine:
    ......Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf — the Arab-American cleric behind the mosque project near Ground Zero ...... A consummate moderate who has made a career preaching about the compatibility of Islamic and American values, Rauf has been cast as a dangerous radical by the mosque's opponents. Few of them are moved by the name of Rauf's proposed building: Cordoba House, named for the city in Spanish Andalucia where Muslims, Jews and Christians once co-existed for centuries in an extraordinary flourishing of culture and science.
    Whatever it is, I wonder why he is so determined to set it up right there. IMO, they themselves should decide to move before the controversy gets any bigger.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10



    They were using the site for years now. So he wasn't determine to do anything. What would you say to the two mosques that are closer to the site? move away? The community centre is two block away, i hardly call that close to this site. It is not in the view of that site. It written in stone, whether they cry to death about it. They cannot stop it.

    It is community centre that has a baskest ball court, swimming pool and the whole lot. They were planning this for years. If they want all that in the community centre then 100 million is what they needed to pay.

    the islamicphobia in the media is obvious.
    1. not even in the view of the site, two blocks away. and there are other mosque closer to ground zero.

    2. it is not even a moqsue and serve the whole community.

    3. it happen to be "muslims" that are using this site.

    4. muslims in new york should watch out. anything you do will be link to 9/11.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    Peace sister. I understand it all. Just giving my opinion. The politicians getting media mileage out of this is what I can't stand.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    format_quote Originally Posted by manaal View Post
    Peace sister. I understand it all. Just giving my opinion. The politicians getting media mileage out of this is what I can't stand.
    oh I wasn't attack you. I was just saying how it was that is all. sorry if i offended you or you had the impression that I was attacking you.

    ramadan kareem!
    Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one.." [Bukhaari].
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    I don't understand: why all the fuss over the name Qurtuba?
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aisha View Post
    I don't understand: why all the fuss over the name Qurtuba?
    salaam

    The haters are trying say that it represents "conquest as Qurtaba was taken over by muslims - they forget to remember what happend there when the christains took it back - its a non sensical argument realy.

    peace
    Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    Do you think the pious don't sin?

    They merely:
    Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
    And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    You know what would shut the opposition up? The sheikh appearing on the 9/11 anniversary to talk about the mosque and condemn al-Qaeda terrorism. Open up a Quran and actually read the verse forbidding the murder of innocents. Forgot where it was.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    format_quote Originally Posted by Boaz View Post
    You know what would shut the opposition up? The sheikh appearing on the 9/11 anniversary to talk about the mosque and condemn al-Qaeda terrorism. Open up a Quran and actually read the verse forbidding the murder of innocents. Forgot where it was.
    Salaam

    I wish it was as straightforward as this but no even if he did it wouldnt have much effect, plenty of statements have been made before by various religious authorities condemning terror but its ignored or deemed uninteresting to print.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    I liked what he said. May Allah guide him to the Truth. Ameen. But I wish he hadn't said that no muslim was injured because the pipe bomb had been place outside the masjid, and that if it had been inside then... blah blah blah.. I was like oh no he's just given them ideas :\
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    Post Why concern yourself with what Non Muslims think?

    As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

    Why in the world do practicing Muslims even care what the non Muslim say? It appears people are more concerned with appearance than with actual practice.

    If the site was so sacred to the families and people concerned why didn't they protest the commercial rebuilding on the site? The Masjid is two blocks away. The conservative neo nuts are
    Funding this campaign for the November election. The masses are hoodwinked again.

    This isn't even a conspiracy theory issue. Review the Zionist names credits after newscasts who are reporting this craziness. Stop relying on the kufr to tell you about what is going on in the world.

    Surah Kafirun 109

    1. Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)to these Mushrikûn and Kâfirûn): "O Al-Kâfirûn (disbelievers in Allâh, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar, etc.)!
    2. "I worship not that which you worship,
    3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
    4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.
    5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
    6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islâmic Monotheism)."
    (Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan translation)
    ____________________________________________

    Surah Al Isra 17:45-48

    45. And when you (Muhammad SAW) recite the Qur'ân, We put between you and those who believe not in the Hereafter, an invisible veil(or screen their hearts, so they hear or understand it not).

    46. And We have put coverings over their hearts lest, they should understand it (the Qur'ân), and in their ears deafness. And when you make mention of your Lord Alone [Lâ ilâha ill-Allâh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh) Islâmic Monotheism in the Qur'ân, they turn on their backs, fleeing in extreme dislikeness.
    47. We know best of what they listen to, when they listen to you. And when they take secret counsel, behold, the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.) say: "You follow none but a bewitched man."
    48. See what examples they have put forward for you. So they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.
    (Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan translation)
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    Wa lahu-l-hamdu yuḥyi Wa yumītu Wa huwa ḥayyu-llā yamūtu abadan abada
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    This is what my cousin said about my opinion that the plans to continue with the building of the centre should be abandoned.

    The Treaty of Hudaybiah comes to my mind. Prophet Muhammad (SAL) compromised even though the terms of the treaty were unfair towards the Muslims. These historic event in the life of our beloved Prophet occurred for a reason; so that we can always refer to how he handled different kinds of situations in his life. Islam is the only religion which shows with real examples, how to behave & handle different situations in our life.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment: There Is No 'Ground Zero Mosque' - 08/16/10

    I saw the interview with the Imam and he was great. I applauded everything he said. That woman interviewing him was something of a **** wasn't she?
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