!1: why west is so afraid of with the practical Muslims ?
Practical Muslims? Would that be like sensible Muslims?
If that is what you mean then I would say only ignorant and paranoid Westerners are afraid.
Ignorance and paranoia are not unique to the west. Just look at the thread “Briton faces lashes in Sudan over teddy named Mohammed”.
That is paranoia at its best, or worst, depending on how you look at it.
lol "The West" was the first to answer to this thread. Reminds me of "why does the Middle East/Muslims /hate the West"-like feeling threads, where the East answers first.
Please, do explain what you mean islamiii.
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I dont think the west is afraid of Islam..I believe the west is at war with a certain segment of radical islam...we have all seen them..we know who they are..but they seem to be a very small percentage of islam..I find the vast majority of people I know to be very excepting of muslims and islam..as long as they dont fall into the percentage that wants to turn me into creamcheese..
i dont understand why there is a war beetween the west and the "muslims" have i missed something??? from britains point of view (my opinion) weve had a few wars ... just cause (in my humble opinion by the way). and thats that. and the west aernt scared of muslims, because if it came down to a "jihad" wed wipe out the middle east in about 3 minuites and 45 seconds (the time it takes for a nuclear warhead to discharge from a sub, get airborne and hit its target!!!) we wouldnt need that though wed just send in a couple of battle groups, or have a quick war , then pull out quickly and let them destroy them selves.. (no offence)
i think probably this is about the islamiphobia thing...
anyway...alot of the non-muslim and some muslims (whom most of it don't practise islam whole heartedly) believe on secularism...
so...if every muslim practise islam according to sunnah and the quran...for sure the secularism will lost its popularity.
well...thats only my two cents.
25:36 And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.
i think weve begun to elaborate on the topic ourselves..
why is the west affraid of the practical muslim...
the two terms which confuse me in that 'question' are 'afraid' and 'practical'...
i wouldnt say the west is 'afraid' of anything. we would have to define exactly who the 'west' are in order to derive some sort of logical answer.
and 'practical' muslim? i think that could be understood as a muslim who appears to be some sort of a threat to the smooth running of the western way of things?
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If we're so serious about spreading Islam through da'wah why must we separate the West from the rest of us. Why must we isolate them and let them be? --Muslim Knight
Wallahi you are right. The muslims today are really weak and the ones in the west are too scared to say anything or do anything for their suffering ummah except a few i know.Why are we scared Allah is whom we should fear more.
Allah has said" atakhshawnahum falallu ahaqu an takhshawh inkuntum mu'mineen." -- do you fear them you need to fear Allah if you are indeed believers."(surah tawbah:13)
!1: why west is so afraid of with the practical Muslims ?
A couple of possible reasons why some Westerners fear Islam:
1. They fear a dual loyalty on behalf of the Muslim citizens
2. They disagree with some fundamental parts of Islamic doctrine/law, for example its view on the division of labor based on gender.
3. They fear Muslims will try to overthrow the secular order and replace it with one based on religion
4. They believe Western/local values are under threat
5. They fear Muslims aren't integrating very well
Stuff like that? I think those are pretty much the reasons for the 'intellectual' Islamophobes though.
Among the population at large 'popular' beliefs are IMHO related to:
1. Perceived crime rates among Muslim immigrants
2. Changing neighborhoods (i.e. too many kebab restaurants and too few local ones )
3. Fear of terrorism
Just guessing here though, based on what I read in the media.
1. They fear a dual loyalty on behalf of the Muslim citizens
is that anything like having little Italy and china town?
2. They disagree with some fundamental parts of Islamic doctrine/law, for example its view on the division of labor based on gender.
I am afraid I don't understand what that means?
3. They fear Muslims will try to overthrow the secular order and replace it with one based on religion
I can agree with that.. but why the interest in having this same secular order in Muslim lands as well?
4. They believe Western/local values are under threat
which ones are those? for me it seems to be revolving greately around homosexuality and mini skirts is that all the west stands for?
5. They fear Muslims aren't integrating very well
I'd think having segregation of Muslims is a good thing as far as the west stands? otherwise I can't begin to understand all those riots in France in light of Muslims living in slums?
cheers!
Last edited by جوري; 11-30-2007 at 03:21 AM.
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[QUOTE=KAding;874577]A couple of possible reasons why some Westerners fear Islam:
1. They fear a dual loyalty on behalf of the Muslim citizens
2. They disagree with some fundamental parts of Islamic doctrine/law, for example its view on the division of labor based on gender.
3. They fear Muslims will try to overthrow the secular order and replace it with one based on religion
4. They believe Western/local values are under threat
5. They fear Muslims aren't integrating very well
QUOTE]
how is a minority meant to establish all that...? in the whole of the WEESSSTTT!!!
"'Cause I hear the whispered words
In your masterpiece beautiful
You speak the unspeakable through
I love you too"
Wallahi jihad fe sabillillah is the only thing which will ease the situation of the ummah. Jihad is offensive as well as defensive which some retarded people believe that jihad is only defensive or we can't fight jihad without an ameer(khalifah) or jihad has been abrogated or that jihadnafs is greater than jihad al-qital.Hello what part of fabricated hadeeth didn't they understand?!
You want war. That is a good answer to the WHY??
You want to start wars against every non-Muslim country.
Obviously you don't think Islam is a religion of peace.
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Reminds me of "why does the Middle East/Muslims /hate the West"-like feeling threads, where the East answers first.
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