My dear brothers and sisters.Sometimes I have evil thoughts in my mind, and start to doubt about Allah (swt). Then I stop doubting for a few days, and the doubt returns. I can't stop it sometimes, I dont do it on purpose, I believe in Allah (swt) but sometimes I cant't think clearly, can't focus on what is the truth. I know Allah (swt) exist. Anyway I read that if you doubt, i have commited kufr. Is this true, it worries me a lot. Because sometimes I can't controle it. Am I the only person in this world who feels this way?
Dear Ferown, you have no idea how relieved I am to hear it. I don't do any of this on purpose, maybe it's because I am the kind of person who thinks about everything. Maybe, the shaytan sees that I am weak in that point of view?
Dear Ferown, you have no idea how relieved I am to hear it. I don't do any of this on purpose, maybe it's because I am the kind of person who thinks about everything. Maybe, the shaytan sees that I am weak in that point of view?
Jazakallhughair
AssalamuAlaykum
Doubting Allah (swt) and/or His attributes, the truthfulness of them and of Islam is a type of Kufr.
If you're the type of person to think about everything, dont! Shaytaan will mislead you and you'll begin to doubt all manner of things. Seek refuge in Allah (swt) from these kinda of doubts.
If I die while i'm doubting do I die as a kafir. I can't help it, am I the only person in the world with this attitude. Does that mean I commit kufr several times. You have worried me alot.
If I die while i'm doubting do I die as a kafir. I can't help it, am I the only person in the world with this attitude. Does that mean I commit kufr several times. You have worried me alot.
I am sure you are not the only person who has doubts about their religion. I have seen others saying that doubts are only natural, and can even help to strengthen their faith in the long run.
My dear brothers and sisters.Sometimes I have evil thoughts in my mind, and start to doubt about Allah (swt). Then I stop doubting for a few days, and the doubt returns. I can't stop it sometimes, I dont do it on purpose, I believe in Allah (swt) but sometimes I cant't think clearly, can't focus on what is the truth. I know Allah (swt) exist. Anyway I read that if you doubt, i have commited kufr. Is this true, it worries me a lot. Because sometimes I can't controle it. Am I the only person in this world who feels this way?
May Allah (swt) bless you all.
Don't worry it happens to all of us. I went through it and I got over it. Write down what is bothering you and let us see if we can help you out.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Dear Ferown, you have no idea how relieved I am to hear it. I don't do any of this on purpose, maybe it's because I am the kind of person who thinks about everything. Maybe, the shaytan sees that I am weak in that point of view?
Jazakallhughair
Apparently I was wrong! I am like you in that I think about everything and always want a reasonable answer for almost everything.
[This comprises five cures for five of the heart's wounds.]
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. And say: "O my Sustainer! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions o, f the evil ones * And I seek refuge e with you, O my Sustainer, lest they should come near me. "
O one afflicted with the sickness of scruples! Do you know what your scruples resemble? A calamity! The more importance they are given, the more they grow. If you give them no importance, they die away. If you see them as big, they grow bigger. If you see them as small, they grow smaller. If you fear them, they swell and make you ill. If you do not fear them, they are light and remain hidden. If you do not know their true nature, they persist and become established. While if you do know them and recognize them, they disappear. And so, I shall explain only Five Aspects which, of the many sorts of these calamitous scruples, are those which most frequently occur. Perhaps it may be curative for you and for me, for these scruples are such that ignorance invites them and knowledge repulses them. If you do not recognize them they come, if you do recognize them they go.
· FIRST ASPECT - FIRST WOUND
Satan first casts a doubt into the heart. If the heart does not accept it, it turns from a doubt into abuse. It depicts before the imagination some unclean memories and unmannerly, ugly states which resemble abuse, and causes the heart to declare: "Alas!", and fall into despair. The person suffering from scruples supposes that he has acted wrongfully before his Sustainer and feels a terrible agitation and anxiety. In order to be saved from it, he flees from the Divine presence and wants to plunge into heedlessness. The cure for this wound is this:
O wretched man suffering from scruples! Do not be alarmed! For what comes to your mind is not abuse, but something imaginary. And like to imagine unbelief is not unbelief, to imagine abuse is not abuse either. For according to logic, an imagining is not a judgement , and abuse is a judgement. And moreover, those ugly words are not the words of your heart, because your heart is saddened and sorry at them. Rather they come from the inner faculty situated near the heart which is the means of Satanic whisperings. The harm of scruples is imagining the harm. That is, it is to suffer harm in the heart through imagining them to be harmful. For it is imagining to be reality an imagining which is devoid of judgement. Also, it is to attribute to the heart Satan's works; to suppose his words to be from it. Such a person thinks it is harmful, so it becomes harmful. And anyway that is what Satan wanted.
· SECOND ASPECT
It is this: when meanings arise in the heart, they enter the imagination stripped of form; it is there that they are clothed in form. And the imagination, always under some cause, weaves forms of a sort. It leaves on the way the forms of the things to which it gives importance. Whatever meaning passes through it, it either clothes it, or wears it, or taints it, or veils it. If the meanings are pure and clean, and the forms, dirty and base, there is no clothing, but there is contact. The man with scruples confuses the contact with being clothed. He exclaims: "Alas! How corrupted my heart has become. This baseness and meanness drive me out!" Satan takes advantage of this vein of his. The cure for this wound is as follows:
Listen, O you unfortunate! Just as outward cleanliness, which is the means to the clean correctness of your prayers, is not affected by the uncleanness of the inside of your inner organs, and is not spoiled by it, so too the sacred meanings being close to unclean forms does not harm them. Suddenly you feel ill, or an appetite, or a stimulation like a need to pass water. Of course your imagination will see whatever is necessary to cure the ill or answer the need, and will look at it, weave lowly forms appropriate to them, and the meanings that arise will pass between them. But there is no harm in their passing, nor soiling, nor error, nor injury. If there is any mistake, it is in paying them attention and imagining the harm.
· THIRD ASPECT
It is this: there are certain hidden connections between things. There are even the threads of connections in things which you least expected. They are either there in fact, or your imagination made them according to the art with which it was occupied, and tied them together. It is due to this mystery of connections that sometimes seeing a sacred thing calls to mind a dirty thing. As stated in the science of rhetoric, "Opposition, which is the cause of distance in the outer world, is the cause of proximity in the imagination. That is, the means of bringing together the forms of two opposites, is an imaginary connection. The calling to mind which arises through this connection is called the association of ideas.
For example, while performing the prayers or reciting supplications before the Ka'ba, in the Divine Presence, although you are reflecting on Qur'anic verses, this association of ideas takes you and drives you to the furthest, lowest trivia. If your head is afflicted with association of ideas such as that, beware, do not be alarmed. Rather, the moment you come to your senses, turn back. Do not say: "I've done a great wrong", and keep playing with the trigger, lest through your attention, that weak connection finds strength. Because the more you show regret, the more importance you give it, and that weak memory of yours becomes ingrained. It becomes an imaginary sickness. Do not be frightened, it is not a sickness of the heart. This sort of recollection is mostly involuntary. Especially in sensitive, nervous people it is more common. Satan works the mine of this sort of scruple a great deal. The cure for this wound is as follows:
The association of ideas is mostly involuntary. One is not answerable for them. And in association there is proximity; there is no touching or intermingling. Therefore the nature of the ideas do not pass to one another and do not harm one another. Just as Satan and the angel of inspiration being in proximity to one another around the heart, and sinners and the pious being close to one another in the same house do not cause harm, so too, if, at the prompting of the association of ideas, dirty imaginings come and enter among clean thoughts, they cause no harm. Unless it is intentional, or by imagining them to be harmful, one is over-occupied with them. And sometimes the heart becomes tired, and the mind, in order to entertain itself, occupies itself with anything it encounters. Then Satan finds an opportunity, and scatters dirty things before it, and drives it on.
· FOURTH ASPECT
This is a scruple arising from searching for the best form of an action. Supposing it to be fear of God, the more rigorous it becomes, the more severe the condition becomes for the person. It even reachs such a point that while searching for even better forms of action, he fall into what is unlawful. Sometimes searching for a Sunna makes him give up what is obligatory. He says: "I wonder if my act was sound?", and repeats it. This state continues, and he falls into terrible despair. Satan takes advantage of this state of his, and wounds him. There are two cures for this wound.
The First Cure : Scruples like this are worthy of the Mu'tazilites, because they say: "Actions and things for which a person is responsible are either, of themselves and in regard to the hereafter, good, and because of that good they were commanded, or they are bad, and because they are bad they were prohibited. That means, from the point of view of reality and the hereafter, the good and bad in things is dependent on the things themselves, and the Divine command and prohibition follows this." According to this school of thought, the following scruple arises in every action which a person performs: "I wonder if my action was performed in the good way that in essence it is?" While the true school, Ahl-i Sunna va Jama'at, say: "Almighty God orders a thing, then it becomes good. He prohibits a thing, then it becomes bad." That is, goodness becomes existent through command, and badness through prohibition. They look to the awareness of the one who performs the action, and are established according to that. And this good and bad is not in the apparent face and that which looks to this world, but in the face that looks to the hereafter.
For example, you performed the prayers or took the ablutions and there was a cause that of itself would spoil them, but you were completely unaware of it. Your prayers and ablutions, therefore, are both sound and acceptable. However, the Mu'tazilites say: "In reality it was bad and unsound. But it may be accepted from you because you were ignorant and did not know, so you have an excuse." Therefore, according to the Ahl-i Sunna School, do not say about an action which is conformable with the externals of the Shari'a: "I wonder if it was sound?"; do not have scruples about it. Rather, say:
"Was it accepted?"; do not become proud and conceited!
The Second Cure : This is: There is no difficulty in religion. Since the four schools of law are true; and since realizing a fault which leads to the seeking of forgiveness is preferable - for the person afflicted with scruples - to seeing actions as good, which leads to pride, that is, it is better if such a person sees his action as faulty and seeks forgiveness, rather than seeing it as good and falling into pride; since it is thus, you throw away your scruples and say to Satan: "This state is a difficulty. It is difficult to be aware of the reality of things. It is contrary to the ease in religion expressed by: There is no difficulty in religion. It is contrary to the principle, Religion is facility. Certainly an action of mine such as that is conformable with a true school of law. That is enough for me. And at least by confessing my impotence since I cannot perform the worship in a way worthy of it, it is a means of taking refuge with Divine compassion through humbly beseeching forgiveness, and to meekly supplicating that my faulty actions be accepted.
· FIFTH ASPECT
In matters of belief, what comes in the form of doubts are scruples. The unhappy man suffering from scruples sometimes confuses conceptions in his mind with imaginings. That is, he imagines a doubt that has come to his imagination to be a doubt that has entered his mind, and supposes that his beliefs have been spoiled. And sometimes he supposes a doubt he has imagined to have harmed his belief. And sometimes he supposes a doubt he has imagined to have been confirmed by his reason. And sometimes he supposes pondering over a matter pertaining to unbelief to be unbelief. That is, he supposes to be contrary to belief the exercising of his ability to reflect in the form of understanding the causes of misguidance, and its studying and reasoning in impartial fashion. Thus, taking fright at these suppositions, which result from the whisperings of Satan, he exclaims: "Alas! My heart is corrupted and my beliefs spoiled." Since those states are mostly involuntary, and he cannot put them to rights through his faculty of will, he falls into despair. The cure for this wound is as follows:
Just as imagining unbelief is not unbelief, neither is fancying unbelief, unbelief. And just as imagining misguidance is not misguidance, so too reflecting on misguidance is not misguidance. For both imagining, and fancying, and supposing, and reflecting, are different from confirmation with the reason and submission of the heart, and other than them. They are free to a degree. They do not listen to the faculty of will. They do not altogether enter under the obligations of religion. But affirmation and submission are not like that; they are dependent on a balance. And just as imagining, fancying, supposing, and reflecting are not affirming and submitting, so too they cannot be said to be doubt or hesitation. But if they are repeated unnecessarily and become established, then a sort of real doubt may be born of them. Also, calling it unbiased reasoning or being fair, continuously taking the part of the opposing side reaches such a point that such a person involuntarily favours the opposing side. His preference of the truth, which is incumbent on him, is shattered. And he too falls into danger. A state of mind becomes established in his head whereby he becomes an officious representative of Satan or the enemy.
The most important of this sort of scruple is this: the person suffering from it confuses something that is actually possible with something which is reasonably possible. That is, if he sees something which is of itself possible, he imagines it to be reasonably possible and reasonably doubtful. Whereas one of the principles of theology is that something which is of itself possible is not opposed to the certainty afforded by knowledge and it does not contradict the demands of reason. For example, the Black Sea sinking into the earth at this moment is of itself possible, but we judge with certainty that the sea is in its place, and we know this without doubting it, and that possibility which is actually possible causes us no doubt and does not damage our certainty. And, for example, of itself it is possible that the sun will not set today or that it will not rise tomorrow. But this possibility causes no harm to our certainty and does not give rise to any doubt. Thus, like this, baseless suspicions arising from possibilities of this sort about, for example, the setting of the life of this world and rising of the life of the hereafter, which are among the truths of belief, cause no harm to the certainty of belief. Furthermore, the well-known rule, A possibility that does not arise from any proof or evidence is of no importance is one of the established principles of both the sciences of the bases of religion and the bases of jurisprudence.
If you say: "What is the wisdom and purpose in scruples being visited on us, which are thus harmful and an affliction for believers?"
The Answer: On condition they do not lead to excess or overwhelm a person, essentially scruples are the cause of vigilance, lead to seeking the best way, and are the means to seriousness. They cast away indifference and repulse carelessness. Therefore, in this realm of examination and arena of competition, the Absolutely Wise One gave them to the hand of Satan as a whip of encouragement for us. He strikes it at our heads. If it hurts excessively, then one must complain to the All-Wise and Compassionate One, and say: I seek refuge with God from Satan the Accursed.
My dear brothers and sisters.Sometimes I have evil thoughts in my mind, and start to doubt about Allah (swt). Then I stop doubting for a few days, and the doubt returns. I can't stop it sometimes, I dont do it on purpose, I believe in Allah (swt) but sometimes I cant't think clearly, can't focus on what is the truth. I know Allah (swt) exist. Anyway I read that if you doubt, i have commited kufr. Is this true, it worries me a lot. Because sometimes I can't controle it. Am I the only person in this world who feels this way?
May Allah (swt) bless you all.
sounds like you may have wiswaas. just ignore it and try not to dwell on it and do not act on it as following doubts will only lead to more doubts. beware of shaytaan and his traps. try to take up a hobby or do something different so that your mind can be distracted. http://islamqa.com/en/cat/2022
...desperate for husnul-khitaam...
please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.
well I dont have a reference but i know of this one hadith that may comfort you as it did me once upon a time.
a man goes up to the prophet saws and says "sometimes the worst things come across my mind, things i could never speak of", - the implication is he is talking about doubts in god - but the prophet replies "that is the essence of faith" - this is just a poor recollection from my memory.
if you really doubt Allah is there, then i dare you to miss 1 namaz intentionally - if you cant, then i think your a true believer
Temporary whispers in the heart is not kufr at all. Companions used to get it and as per Riyadu Saleheen used to complain to the prophet that their hearts sometimes spoke to them with things they dare not pronounce, and he said it is normal and it is from the devil, as this is one type of whispering that the Qareen (assigned demon with every person) will never stop making no matter how pious or good a person is.
The devils will make many whispers to the man's heart but then if the perspn persists and resists, the devil gives up one by one. Whispers to be angry at his wife and divorce her, whispers to leave prayers, whispers to fornicate, whispers to take some evil that is spread as normal and adopt it. If the person resists and ignores, the devil gives up, except for one: whispering doubtful statements about the existence and oneness of God, in that he will never give up.
However, know that settled doubt as in a person content in his heart that he is not sure there really is a God, and settles the matter that he doesn't care but he might as well just tag along, that is kufr and hypocricy. If a person dies at such a state, he is a kafir kufr Akbar that takes him outside the room of believers.
As per the Quran, surat Al-Kahf: "He went into his garden in a state (of mind) unjust to his soul: He said, "I think not that this will ever perish, Nor do I deem that the Hour (of Judgment) will (ever) come: Even if I am brought back to my Lord, I shall surely find (there) something better in exchange." His companion said to him, in the course of the argument with him: "Dost thou deny Him Who created thee out of dust, then out of a sperm-drop, then fashioned thee into a man?"" [18:35-37]
Sheikh Mohammed Salih Al-Munajjid says: "The kufr of doubt, which means hesitating with regard to following the truth and being uncertain as to whether it is true, because what is required is certainty of faith (yaqeen) that what the Messenger brought is truth with no hint of doubt in it."
If you receive whispers and thoughts in your head and heart with such matters, do not blame yourself, but don't take it lightly either! This is your jihad against the devil. As soon as it comes make IsteAAatha three times and spit from your left shoulder as the prophet -pbuh- taught us, and immediately start thinking of faith affirmations around you, like how the plants are rising out of the ground with no help and how everything is set in great balance and most importantly this awesome perfect book that lies between our hands called the Quran. Over time you will know how to dismiss the whispers faster and faster, but the whispers will never go away completely. However just by knowing what they are, you already won half the battle. The rest is on you, if you lay back and allow them to overcome you, you might find yourself being "unjust to your soul" as per the Quranic verse.
And God knows Best
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Iblis's eternal destination in the Hellfire is due to Arrogance, not Disbelief.
HI!
When ever you doubt about your religion ista3d billah(a3uthu billahi minash shatani rajiim...) all the times when you think about.. Also make more thikr subhallah, alhamdulillah, lä ilähä illal,,,, I hope that inshallah it will help ?
the very fact that your worried about this and that you cry shows that you have imaan. Another muslim who has these feelings just as brother sampharo described his post will not care about these feelings he will accept it and tag along with the rest of us! I myself have whispers and i get extremely worried so i make alot of dua in the night and beg Allah to guide til my last breath!. Dua is our weapön and seeking refuge in Allah! Just this morning i got a whisper to miss fajir prayer coz i was awfully tired so i forced myself 2get out of bed coz i know its only shaytan!. Sometimes i get whisperz to miss all my prayers and that i deserve a break haha but i know is just shaytan trying to break me but i know its not going to happen inshaAllah. This is our jihad against the evil. Shaytan wil even come to us when we are near dead so you should always recite the kalma everyday throughout our lifes no matter what we are doing also.
I have to let it out. I will tell you how this doubts first started. I began following Islam a couple of months ago, I've been a muslim my whole life, my I really wasn't a good muslim, you perhaps could have considerd me as a hypocrite. Anyway, I started the learn more about my beautiful religion. I had no doubts at all sometimes, they were just whispers but usually I forgot them quick. Then in almost the end of ramadan, I started to doubt again but this time something was different, it started to bother me all day, to an extent that is was the only thing I could think about. After a couple of weeks I got better again, the doubting stopped, but I still was worried that oneday they might come back again. Then one day I watched a video where a prayermat was praying by itself, and I couldn't stop thinking. I saw something that was unnormal,something you don't see every day, then I felt in to the trap of the shaytan, somewhere in the back of my head, I couldn't understand how a prayermat could pray by itself. From there on the shaytan dragged me along. To a point I got so desperate crying for Allah to not make a kafir. Maybe something in my brain got wrong, where I can not think straight along. I think so much to the extent where I live in my own world, where I can not make sense of reality, which is part of the problem. I most of the time want to go to sleep, hoping in my dreams I still believe in Allah. I know that Allah exist, but I think i have brought myself to a mental state , where I have not lost it, but neither can think clear. I have become very forgetfull, i have problems studing because the only thing on my mind is 'am I a kafir'. It's like I am brainwshed. I can't go to a phyciatrist, i don't have the resources. I really need your duas. Please make dua for me
Your posts have really moved me and made me think.
My advice to you might be non-Islamic and controversial, and the mods might even decide to edit it ... but I will share it with you anyway.
I believe very strongly that our faith journey is about being honest with God.
That includes us expressing our doubts and questions to God openly. After all, we cannot lie to God, can we?
We can go through the motions to deceive our fellow human beings - going to our places of worship, participate in religious celebrations and pray publicly ... but we cannot deceive God. He knows what we think, feel and believe in our heart of hearts!
Also it is worth mentioning that sometimes people do stop believing, despite their best attempts and efforts to hang on to their faith.
I suggest that whilst you have even the slightest shred of belief in God, or even just a small hope that he might exist, that you turn to God in prayer and ask him to guide you.
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I hope at goes well for you. Salaam
Last edited by Re.TiReD; 11-23-2009 at 05:46 PM.
Reason: Sorry but saying that is doubt in itself
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
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[Psalm 95]
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You have worried me alot.
the very fact that your worried about this and that you cry shows that you have imaan. Another muslim who has these feelings just as brother sampharo described his post will not care about these feelings he will accept it and tag along with the rest of us! I myself have whispers and i get extremely worried so i make alot of dua in the night and beg Allah to guide til my last breath!. Dua is our weapön and seeking refuge in Allah! Just this morning i got a whisper to miss fajir prayer coz i was awfully tired so i forced myself 2get out of bed coz i know its only shaytan!. Sometimes i get whisperz to miss all my prayers and that i deserve a break haha but i know is just shaytan trying to break me but i know its not going to happen inshaAllah. This is our jihad against the evil. Shaytan wil even come to us when we are near dead so you should always recite the kalma everyday throughout our lifes no matter what we are doing also.
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