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    i dnt knw how to start putting my thought into words, or hw silly it sounds but here we go
    it am just wondering, how some men and women think of marrying OUTSIde of their culture, obviously, thinking about how it can really work is very differnt to actually experiencing it.
    Imagination and Reality are 2 different things!

    Of course, like if u marry into a practising family,religion should outweight ny cultural conflicts and bond people closer together as one of the most beautiful things about islam is that it is for all cultures.
    but would it actually work? or wud it b lyk : "the grass is greener on the other side".


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    there is nothing wrong in marrying in one's culture but the partner needs to be pious.

    if boy-girl family share same type of food, language..its easy to develop good relations.
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian View Post
    there is nothing wrong in marrying in one's culture but the partner needs to be pious.

    if boy-girl family share same type of food, language..its easy to develop good relations.
    yh we think it can work,. but the thing is it takes 2 families to make it work, it not only depends on the partner, right?
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    I don't see a problem. As long as both husband and wife are muslim there should be no problem. I know that may be hard to see if you come from a culture that forbids you to marry from the outside, but really it's not an issue. If there is love between husband and wife and both are of good character then the marriage will work.
    I think your culture is influencing your thoughts, but believe me it can work.
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    i married outside my race (british) to another race (indian) and we have no problems, it is only a problem if the people are cultural and put that culture before islam.

    if both partners and families put the deen first then there is no reason the marriage shouldnt work, if one or both partners are insisting their unislamic parts of their culture are dominant in the marriage then thinks are likely to go wrong.

    eg a friend of my wife who is a revert sister but her husband insists on chapattis and curry every day, urdu at home and that she wears pakistani clothes (not islamic clothes, pakistani clothes)

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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    format_quote Originally Posted by 3isha View Post
    yh we think it can work,. but the thing is it takes 2 families to make it work, it not only depends on the partner, right?
    the marriage is between man and woman....not between families which we must not forget!

    if the families are on good terms..its just fine. it is not necessary that they should behave like a one family.

    but sadly, we just dont care to think over it!
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    Islam is for all of mankind, Culture and nationality has no role to play in that message. Its when Muslims start to allow nationality and culture to interfere with there Deen is when things start to fall apart which rises only due to the fact of weakness in faith and narrow mindedness.
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    As long as both partners love, trust and respect each other, the marriage will be successful. If their cultures and/or religions are different, try to meet half way rather than insisting the man or the woman to embrace what the other wants to. Everything can be discussed. IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO!! Learn how to give and to take..
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post


    eg a friend of my wife who is a revert sister but her husband insists on chapattis and curry every day, urdu at home and that she wears pakistani clothes (not islamic clothes, pakistani clothes)

    Does that cause tension in this couple's home, Dawud?
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    format_quote Originally Posted by 3isha View Post


    i dnt knw how to start putting my thought into words, or hw silly it sounds but here we go
    it am just wondering, how some men and women think of marrying OUTSIde of their culture, obviously, thinking about how it can really work is very differnt to actually experiencing it.
    Imagination and Reality are 2 different things!

    Of course, like if u marry into a practising family,religion should outweight ny cultural conflicts and bond people closer together as one of the most beautiful things about islam is that it is for all cultures.
    but would it actually work? or wud it b lyk : "the grass is greener on the other side".


    I see that you are resident in England, if you are a British citizen then your culture should be British and as such the culture of the nation is one of inclusive integration and your parents should encourage that. If they do not you should ask them why not?
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    ^ lol it isn't that simple.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    I see that you are resident in England, if you are a British citizen then your culture should be British and as such the culture of the nation is one of inclusive integration and your parents should encourage that. If they do not you should ask them why not?
    I'm calling BS on this one. Do you think all british people share the same culture? Not even all the whitest londoners share the same culture.
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    Oh, and about the issue, ideally that may not seem like a big deal, but culture and families play an important part. Asking for equality of stature is a given right to families. It prevents failed marriages.
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    format_quote Originally Posted by ibn Bonobos View Post
    I see that you are resident in England, if you are a British citizen then your culture should be British and as such the culture of the nation is one of inclusive integration and your parents should encourage that. If they do not you should ask them why not?
    what a fool! France is over 80% Catholic, are you a Catholic? then why not?

    you need, according to your silly simian simplicity, to erect some statues of the "'virgin mary," complete with "terrorist attire," toss some beads and a cross over your rearview mirror, and start eating fish on Friday. and since you haven't, now you have to go see the child rapists in a booth and tell them how grossly you have sinned.

    and while you're at it, if you can't follow your own advice, stop dispensing here!
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    Re: Culture Vs Religion

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian View Post
    the marriage is between man and woman....not between families which we must not forget!
    actaully quite the opposite is drilled into our heads.and in the process, the main ppl, the couple, are forgotten.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Does that cause tension in this couple's home, Dawud?
    not as much as some other things, it isnt the first time i have heard of this, some brothers and sisters seem to assume when a revert marries them they must give up everything about their culture.

    this is just dumb, i am no less muslim for enjoying roast beef and yorkshire pudding or toad in the whole.

    it is culture that does this though, not islam. its simular and makes me laugh when i see converts to christianity in the uk trying to out english the english.
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    My honest thoughts are that if someone's culture is so deeply ingrained in their way of life, then maybe Islam isn't as important to them as it should be.

    Of course marriage between two cultures can work, providing the two people care for each other mutually and their deen and Allah (swt) above all.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    I see that you are resident in England, if you are a British citizen then your culture should be British and as such the culture of the nation is one of inclusive integration and your parents should encourage that. If they do not you should ask them why not?
    my culture should be british what way ?
    i eat and dress like n indian mostly nyway
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post


    i married outside my race (british) to another race (indian) and we have no problems, it is only a problem if the people are cultural and put that culture before islam.

    if both partners and families put the deen first then there is no reason the marriage shouldnt work, if one or both partners are insisting their unislamic parts of their culture are dominant in the marriage then thinks are likely to go wrong.

    eg a friend of my wife who is a revert sister but her husband insists on chapattis and curry every day, urdu at home and that she wears pakistani clothes (not islamic clothes, pakistani clothes)

    oh jazakillah for sharing ure example,
    yh xactly as i c it , if we put the deen first then it shudnt be a problem
    inshallah
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    format_quote Originally Posted by YusufNoor View Post
    what a fool! France is over 80% Catholic, are you a Catholic? then why not?

    you need, according to your silly simian simplicity, to erect some statues of the "'virgin mary," complete with "terrorist attire," toss some beads and a cross over your rearview mirror, and start eating fish on Friday. and since you haven't, now you have to go see the child rapists in a booth and tell them how grossly you have sinned.

    and while you're at it, if you can't follow your own advice, stop dispensing here!
    What are you talking about?? First, read my profile - I am British living in France (and Britain). Next, culture is more than religion, in fact I am sure we can separate culture and religion.
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